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It appears Prior is/was a steroid user. Does this change anybody's mind?

 

Yes. He's not as good of a person as I thought. But he still should have been tendered a contract.

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Prior being on the list makes me think less of him as a person, but doesn't influence my opinion regarding whether or not he should have been tendered a contract.
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If people are going to be outraged about Prior being on the leaked report(which is being contested), I hope they're outraged about Kerry too.

 

I didn't say "enraged", I said does it help change your mind?

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It appears Prior is/was a steroid user. Does this change anybody's mind?

You are not allowed to suggest that Prior is/was a steriod user.

 

Last night when this story of Prior being non-tendered broke I brought up the fact that Prior may be on the Mitchell Report.

 

It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I think the Cubs as an organization frown on bad PR. Which may or may not have contributed to the non-tendering decision.

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i'm really disappointed this is the outcome of mark prior's career in chicago. that said, i find it comically that he's charity work or lack of, is someone a sign that he's somebody that doesn't want to be with the cubs.

 

regardless, i think neither prior or the cubs wanted to continue their relationship.

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It appears Prior is/was a steroid user. Does this change anybody's mind?

You are not allowed to suggest that Prior is/was a steriod user.

 

Last night when this story of Prior being non-tendered broke I brought up the fact that Prior may be on the Mitchell Report.

 

It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I think the Cubs as an organization frown on bad PR. Which may or may not have contributed to the non-tendering decision.

 

Then why re-sign Wood?

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It appears Prior is/was a steroid user. Does this change anybody's mind?

You are not allowed to suggest that Prior is/was a steriod user.

 

Last night when this story of Prior being non-tendered broke I brought up the fact that Prior may be on the Mitchell Report.

 

It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I think the Cubs as an organization frown on bad PR. Which may or may not have contributed to the non-tendering decision.

 

Then why re-sign Wood?

 

 

Because Woody would work with Hendry on the price tag.

 

I'm not saying the Mitchell Report was the #1 reason for nontendering Prior. I'm saying it could have been one of several reasons. I don't think it was a deciding factor, but maybe a contributing factor.

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It appears Prior is/was a steroid user. Does this change anybody's mind?

You are not allowed to suggest that Prior is/was a steriod user.

 

Last night when this story of Prior being non-tendered broke I brought up the fact that Prior may be on the Mitchell Report.

 

It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I think the Cubs as an organization frown on bad PR. Which may or may not have contributed to the non-tendering decision.

 

Then why re-sign Wood?

 

 

Because Woody would work with Hendry on the price tag.

I'm not saying the Mitchell Report was the #1 reason for nontendering Prior. I'm saying it could have been one of several reasons. I don't think it was a deciding factor, but maybe a contributing factor.

Ding, Ding, Ding.

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It appears Prior is/was a steroid user. Does this change anybody's mind?

You are not allowed to suggest that Prior is/was a steriod user.

 

Last night when this story of Prior being non-tendered broke I brought up the fact that Prior may be on the Mitchell Report.

 

It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I think the Cubs as an organization frown on bad PR. Which may or may not have contributed to the non-tendering decision.

 

Then why re-sign Wood?

 

 

Because Woody would work with Hendry on the price tag.

I'm not saying the Mitchell Report was the #1 reason for nontendering Prior. I'm saying it could have been one of several reasons. I don't think it was a deciding factor, but maybe a contributing factor.

Ding, Ding, Ding.

 

So if he had taken a price cut and stayed, suddenly it doesn't matter?

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It appears Prior is/was a steroid user. Does this change anybody's mind?

You are not allowed to suggest that Prior is/was a steriod user.

 

Last night when this story of Prior being non-tendered broke I brought up the fact that Prior may be on the Mitchell Report.

 

It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I think the Cubs as an organization frown on bad PR. Which may or may not have contributed to the non-tendering decision.

 

Then why re-sign Wood?

 

 

Because Woody would work with Hendry on the price tag.

I'm not saying the Mitchell Report was the #1 reason for nontendering Prior. I'm saying it could have been one of several reasons. I don't think it was a deciding factor, but maybe a contributing factor.

Ding, Ding, Ding.

 

So if he had taken a price cut and stayed, suddenly it doesn't matter?

 

The bolded portion of the above statement is 100 percent correct. Throw out the Mitchell Report. It has nothing to do with any of this. Wood "played ball" with the Cubs when it came to taking reduced contracts. Prior didn't. The Cubs' viewpoint, agree or disagree is this: They paid Prior $3.575 million this year to rehab. They wanted some protection that if Prior came back strong at some point _ and no one knows when that will be _ that they could reap the benefit of having him on the mound at what they considered a fair price in an incentive-laden contract.

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It appears Prior is/was a steroid user. Does this change anybody's mind?

You are not allowed to suggest that Prior is/was a steriod user.

 

Last night when this story of Prior being non-tendered broke I brought up the fact that Prior may be on the Mitchell Report.

 

It really doesn't matter to me one way or the other, but I think the Cubs as an organization frown on bad PR. Which may or may not have contributed to the non-tendering decision.

 

Then why re-sign Wood?

 

 

Because Woody would work with Hendry on the price tag.

I'm not saying the Mitchell Report was the #1 reason for nontendering Prior. I'm saying it could have been one of several reasons. I don't think it was a deciding factor, but maybe a contributing factor.

Ding, Ding, Ding.

 

So if he had taken a price cut and stayed, suddenly it doesn't matter?

What doesn't matter? The fact that he used steriods? My earlier post was just a reference to posters in the past that got attacked for suggesting such. I really don't care if Prior used steriods.

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If people are going to be outraged about Prior being on the leaked report(which is being contested), I hope they're outraged about Kerry too.

 

I'm disappointed in Wood but no one ever asked him directly about PEDs. Prior however vehmently denied doing them even with his Tom House association. Also, I have more sentimental feelings for Wood (mostly because he has pitched longer for the Cubs).

 

I'm convinced that Prior knew he was on the list and he wanted to leave because the media would have been merciless with him! He basically called all of the local media guys liars and said they were on a witch hunt and now, apparently, he has been caught.

 

Quite frankly, I'm glad he's gone now because having both of them on the team would have caused too much drama; much more than usual. There's no denying that the local media doesn't like him but much of it was his own doing.

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The bolded portion of the above statement is 100 percent correct. Throw out the Mitchell Report. It has nothing to do with any of this. Wood "played ball" with the Cubs when it came to taking reduced contracts. Prior didn't. The Cubs' viewpoint, agree or disagree is this: They paid Prior $3.575 million this year to rehab. They wanted some protection that if Prior came back strong at some point _ and no one knows when that will be _ that they could reap the benefit of having him on the mound at what they considered a fair price in an incentive-laden contract.

 

Bruce, do you think that Prior's unwillingness to "play ball" stems from a strained relationship between himself and the Cubs? Or did Prior let his ego make the decision for him?

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The fact that he used steriods?

 

So people are now taking rumors of appearances in the Mitchell report as fact that said player used steroids?

 

If his name actually appears in the report in 30 minutes will you be convinced? And if not, why?

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The bolded portion of the above statement is 100 percent correct. Throw out the Mitchell Report. It has nothing to do with any of this. Wood "played ball" with the Cubs when it came to taking reduced contracts. Prior didn't. The Cubs' viewpoint, agree or disagree is this: They paid Prior $3.575 million this year to rehab. They wanted some protection that if Prior came back strong at some point _ and no one knows when that will be _ that they could reap the benefit of having him on the mound at what they considered a fair price in an incentive-laden contract.

 

Bruce, do you think that Prior's unwillingness to "play ball" stems from a strained relationship between himself and the Cubs? Or did Prior let his ego make the decision for him?

 

Probably a little of both.

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The fact that he used steriods?

 

So people are now taking rumors of appearances in the Mitchell report as fact that said player used steroids?

 

Hate to bring the far past up, but aren't you one of the people who said you are pretty sure Portis has been involved in dog fighting because he commented that he didnt' think it was that big a deal?

 

I think this is as close to fact as it gets, without being able to place the needle in someone's......nevermind.

 

I misread what you said. But I don't think it's a "rumor" that Prior is on the list.

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The bolded portion of the above statement is 100 percent correct. Throw out the Mitchell Report. It has nothing to do with any of this. Wood "played ball" with the Cubs when it came to taking reduced contracts. Prior didn't. The Cubs' viewpoint, agree or disagree is this: They paid Prior $3.575 million this year to rehab. They wanted some protection that if Prior came back strong at some point _ and no one knows when that will be _ that they could reap the benefit of having him on the mound at what they considered a fair price in an incentive-laden contract.

 

Bruce, do you think that Prior's unwillingness to "play ball" stems from a strained relationship between himself and the Cubs? Or did Prior let his ego make the decision for him?

 

Probably a little of both.

 

I guess I wonder what he has against the Cubs at this point. I don't think he was treated unfairly, at least to the best of my knowledge.

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The bolded portion of the above statement is 100 percent correct. Throw out the Mitchell Report. It has nothing to do with any of this. Wood "played ball" with the Cubs when it came to taking reduced contracts. Prior didn't. The Cubs' viewpoint, agree or disagree is this: They paid Prior $3.575 million this year to rehab. They wanted some protection that if Prior came back strong at some point _ and no one knows when that will be _ that they could reap the benefit of having him on the mound at what they considered a fair price in an incentive-laden contract.

 

Bruce, do you think that Prior's unwillingness to "play ball" stems from a strained relationship between himself and the Cubs? Or did Prior let his ego make the decision for him?

 

Probably a little of both.

 

I guess I wonder what he has against the Cubs at this point. I don't think he was treated unfairly, at least to the best of my knowledge.

 

I don't think he was treated unfairly, either. He probably was stung by the demotion to the minor leagues last spring.

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