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[CuseCubFan69]

 

As for his mental toughness. I point toward his era with men on base

 

 

great stuff, really. you think the reason his era with men on base is higher than his era with the bases empty is because...there's men on base?? that's like saying he gives up more grand slams when the bases are loaded than he does when the bases are empty or he gives up more stolen bases when there's guys on base.

 

average against with men on base: .228

average against with the bases empty: .239

 

Numbers don't tell the whole story.

 

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split. And I have no idea why you'd want that anyway.

[abuck1220]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split.

 

that's why you have to WATCH THE GAMES.

[CuseCubFan69]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split. And I have no idea why you'd want that anyway.

 

To prove that once he starts to get hit, he gets lit up. I thought numbers told the whole story?

[Rob]

 

As for his mental toughness. I point toward his era with men on base

 

 

great stuff, really. you think the reason his era with men on base is higher than his era with the bases empty is because...there's men on base?? that's like saying he gives up more grand slams when the bases are loaded than he does when the bases are empty or he gives up more stolen bases when there's guys on base.

 

average against with men on base: .228

average against with the bases empty: .239

 

Numbers don't tell the whole story.

 

They tell more of it than simple selective perception.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split. And I have no idea why you'd want that anyway.

 

To prove that once he starts to get hit, he gets lit up. I thought numbers told the whole story?

 

That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like asking for a team's record when they score fewer runs than the other team.

[jersey cubs fan]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split. And I have no idea why you'd want that anyway.

 

To prove that once he starts to get hit, he gets lit up. I thought numbers told the whole story?

 

Don't you think it's possible that most pitchers will have bad numbers in games when they have bad games?

[USSoccer]

What's even more staggering is that I'm pretty sure the vast majority of pitchers have worse numbers with men on base just because of the nature of the situation. Throwing from the stretch, good hitters coming after one another, etc.

 

You're wrong. It means he's a piss poor ninny who should be dealt immediately.

 

What kind of pansy has a higher ERA with guys on base?

[fromthestretch]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split. And I have no idea why you'd want that anyway.

 

To prove that once he starts to get hit, he gets lit up. I thought numbers told the whole story?

 

Chances are, if he's given up four runs, he doesn't have his best stuff to begin with that day.

[jersey cubs fan]

What's even more staggering is that I'm pretty sure the vast majority of pitchers have worse numbers with men on base just because of the nature of the situation. Throwing from the stretch, good hitters coming after one another, etc.

 

You're wrong. It means he's a piss poor ninny who should be dealt immediately.

 

What kind of pansy has a higher ERA with guys on base?

 

I'll tell you what kind, a documented steroid abuser.

[USSoccer]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split.

 

that's why you have to WATCH THE GAMES.

 

I remember once it seemed like Mark Prior gave up 7 runs with one pitch. And then put on a Hamburgler suit and ran off with a sack of money he didn't earn.

[CuseCubFan69]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split. And I have no idea why you'd want that anyway.

 

To prove that once he starts to get hit, he gets lit up. I thought numbers told the whole story?

 

That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like asking for a team's record when they score fewer runs than the other team.

 

No it isn't. I was asked to show numerically why I thought he struggled when others hit him hard and that's simply what I'm asking for.

[CuseCubFan69]

What's even more staggering is that I'm pretty sure the vast majority of pitchers have worse numbers with men on base just because of the nature of the situation. Throwing from the stretch, good hitters coming after one another, etc.

 

You're wrong. It means he's a piss poor ninny who should be dealt immediately.

 

What kind of pansy has a higher ERA with guys on base?

 

I'll tell you what kind, a documented steroid abuser.

 

Funny how you revert to this type of a point when you can't prove me wrong.

[fromthestretch]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split. And I have no idea why you'd want that anyway.

 

To prove that once he starts to get hit, he gets lit up. I thought numbers told the whole story?

 

That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like asking for a team's record when they score fewer runs than the other team.

 

No it isn't. I was asked to show numerically why I thought he struggled when others hit him hard and that's simply what I'm asking for.

 

Because if he's getting hit hard in the first place, he's obviously struggling to begin with. Therefore, it makes since that he would struggle afterward, as well. If a pitcher doesn't have his best stuff on a given day, it's prone to happen.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split. And I have no idea why you'd want that anyway.

 

To prove that once he starts to get hit, he gets lit up. I thought numbers told the whole story?

 

That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like asking for a team's record when they score fewer runs than the other team.

 

No it isn't. I was asked to show numerically why I thought he struggled when others hit him hard and that's simply what I'm asking for.

 

Yes it is. If Prior started to get hit and then was able to stop the bleeding, it wouldn't show up there, because he wouldn't have given up 4+ runs.

[USSoccer]

What's even more staggering is that I'm pretty sure the vast majority of pitchers have worse numbers with men on base just because of the nature of the situation. Throwing from the stretch, good hitters coming after one another, etc.

 

You're wrong. It means he's a piss poor ninny who should be dealt immediately.

 

What kind of pansy has a higher ERA with guys on base?

 

I'll tell you what kind, a documented steroid abuser.

 

And a thief

[nilodnayr]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split. And I have no idea why you'd want that anyway.

 

To prove that once he starts to get hit, he gets lit up. I thought numbers told the whole story?

 

That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like asking for a team's record when they score fewer runs than the other team.

 

No it isn't. I was asked to show numerically why I thought he struggled when others hit him hard and that's simply what I'm asking for.

 

What would line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more prove?

[jersey cubs fan]

What's even more staggering is that I'm pretty sure the vast majority of pitchers have worse numbers with men on base just because of the nature of the situation. Throwing from the stretch, good hitters coming after one another, etc.

 

You're wrong. It means he's a piss poor ninny who should be dealt immediately.

 

What kind of pansy has a higher ERA with guys on base?

 

I'll tell you what kind, a documented steroid abuser.

 

Funny how you revert to this type of a point when you can't prove me wrong.

 

Prove you wrong? It was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen written on here, what is there to prove? A guy gets hit harder in games in which he doesn't perform well. Oh geez, I think we're onto something here.

[CuseCubFan69]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split. And I have no idea why you'd want that anyway.

 

To prove that once he starts to get hit, he gets lit up. I thought numbers told the whole story?

 

That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like asking for a team's record when they score fewer runs than the other team.

 

No it isn't. I was asked to show numerically why I thought he struggled when others hit him hard and that's simply what I'm asking for.

 

Yes it is. If Prior started to get hit and then was able to stop the bleeding, it wouldn't show up there, because he wouldn't have given up 4+ runs.

 

So there are no numbers that tell us once a pitcher gives up a certain amount of runs, how well or poorly he pitches?

[abuck1220]

What's even more staggering is that I'm pretty sure the vast majority of pitchers have worse numbers with men on base just because of the nature of the situation. Throwing from the stretch, good hitters coming after one another, etc.

 

You're wrong. It means he's a piss poor ninny who should be dealt immediately.

 

What kind of pansy has a higher ERA with guys on base?

 

I'll tell you what kind, a documented steroid abuser.

 

Funny how you revert to this type of a point when you can't prove me wrong.

 

how about, for once, you prove yourself right.

[CuseCubFan69]

What's even more staggering is that I'm pretty sure the vast majority of pitchers have worse numbers with men on base just because of the nature of the situation. Throwing from the stretch, good hitters coming after one another, etc.

 

You're wrong. It means he's a piss poor ninny who should be dealt immediately.

 

What kind of pansy has a higher ERA with guys on base?

 

I'll tell you what kind, a documented steroid abuser.

 

Funny how you revert to this type of a point when you can't prove me wrong.

 

Prove you wrong? It was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen written on here, what is there to prove? A guy gets hit harder in games in which he doesn't perform well. Oh geez, I think we're onto something here.

 

So I was right then.

[USSoccer]

What's even more staggering is that I'm pretty sure the vast majority of pitchers have worse numbers with men on base just because of the nature of the situation. Throwing from the stretch, good hitters coming after one another, etc.

 

You're wrong. It means he's a piss poor ninny who should be dealt immediately.

 

What kind of pansy has a higher ERA with guys on base?

 

I'll tell you what kind, a documented steroid abuser.

 

Funny how you revert to this type of a point when you can't prove me wrong.

 

'Cuse, it's going to be impossible to prove you wrong, because if he's getting rocked, his numbers will suck because he's getting rocked.

 

You've constructed a circular argument.

[nilodnayr]

You like numbers. Show me the line drive percentage in games after Prior gave up 4 runs or more. Give me those numbers.

 

No one has LD% by split. And I have no idea why you'd want that anyway.

 

To prove that once he starts to get hit, he gets lit up. I thought numbers told the whole story?

 

That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like asking for a team's record when they score fewer runs than the other team.

 

No it isn't. I was asked to show numerically why I thought he struggled when others hit him hard and that's simply what I'm asking for.

 

Yes it is. If Prior started to get hit and then was able to stop the bleeding, it wouldn't show up there, because he wouldn't have given up 4+ runs.

 

So there are no numbers that tell us once a pitcher gives up a certain amount of runs, how well or poorly he pitches?

 

There are numbers, we just don't have them. Also, don't you think there might be a bit of a selection bias as well as sample size issues on what you are asking? And what are you trying to prove with your LD%?

[jersey cubs fan]

What's even more staggering is that I'm pretty sure the vast majority of pitchers have worse numbers with men on base just because of the nature of the situation. Throwing from the stretch, good hitters coming after one another, etc.

 

You're wrong. It means he's a piss poor ninny who should be dealt immediately.

 

What kind of pansy has a higher ERA with guys on base?

 

I'll tell you what kind, a documented steroid abuser.

 

Funny how you revert to this type of a point when you can't prove me wrong.

 

Prove you wrong? It was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen written on here, what is there to prove? A guy gets hit harder in games in which he doesn't perform well. Oh geez, I think we're onto something here.

 

So I was right then.

 

Unfreakingbelievable.

 

Why don't you try proving yourself right instead of asking others to do it for you?

[David]

This is getting comedic in how stupid it is. Round and round we go with the circular reasoning.