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I have a hard time believing we have the chips necessary to pull out that "dream" scenario of Fukudome, Figgins, Roberts, and Blanton. In terms of money and players given up it doesn't make much sense. Pie would have to headline one deal, Marshall another, and Murton+Gallagher a third. So for example, Pie+Cedeno+lower tier minor leaguer gets us Roberts, Murton+Gallagher+lower tier minor leaguer gets us Figgins, and Marshall+Prior gets us Blanton. It drains us of pretty much all our tradable assets, and even those packages might not be enough.

 

If the Cubs got Figgins they wouldn't need Roberts

 

Cubs get Figgins

 

Angels get Gallagher, Marshall and Inge

 

Tigers get Hart, Harvey & PTBNL

 

yowza. you'd give up gallagher, marshall, hart, and harvey (who sucks, so whatever) for Figgins?

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I have a hard time believing we have the chips necessary to pull out that "dream" scenario of Fukudome, Figgins, Roberts, and Blanton. In terms of money and players given up it doesn't make much sense. Pie would have to headline one deal, Marshall another, and Murton+Gallagher a third. So for example, Pie+Cedeno+lower tier minor leaguer gets us Roberts, Murton+Gallagher+lower tier minor leaguer gets us Figgins, and Marshall+Prior gets us Blanton. It drains us of pretty much all our tradable assets, and even those packages might not be enough.

 

If the Cubs got Figgins they wouldn't need Roberts

 

Cubs get Figgins

 

Angels get Gallagher, Marshall and Inge

 

Tigers get Hart, Harvey & PTBNL

 

yowza. you'd give up gallagher, marshall, hart, and harvey (who sucks, so whatever) for Figgins?

Yeah, that is a bit much.

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I have a hard time believing we have the chips necessary to pull out that "dream" scenario of Fukudome, Figgins, Roberts, and Blanton. In terms of money and players given up it doesn't make much sense. Pie would have to headline one deal, Marshall another, and Murton+Gallagher a third. So for example, Pie+Cedeno+lower tier minor leaguer gets us Roberts, Murton+Gallagher+lower tier minor leaguer gets us Figgins, and Marshall+Prior gets us Blanton. It drains us of pretty much all our tradable assets, and even those packages might not be enough.

 

If the Cubs got Figgins they wouldn't need Roberts

 

Cubs get Figgins

 

Angels get Gallagher, Marshall and Inge

 

Tigers get Hart, Harvey & PTBNL

 

yowza. you'd give up gallagher, marshall, hart, and harvey (who sucks, so whatever) for Figgins?

Yeah, that is a bit much.

 

That's a deal I'd like to give a Dodger Blues response to.

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Here's an update on Figgins and Blanton on David Kaplan's WGN Blog that was posted today:

 

HOT STOVE UPDATE….The Cubs are also watching the Angels pursuit of a third baseman because if the Halos land the right guy then they will be open to dealing speedster Chone Figgins who the Cubs would like to play in center field. The Cubs are also looking to add another starter to their rotation and do have some interest in A’s right hander Joe Blanton who Oakland GM Billy Beane is shopping. He would come at a high price though because he is very inexpensive and is still a few years from free agency.

 

http://wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=120&Itemid=236

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Here's an update on Figgins and Blanton on David Kaplan's WGN Blog that was posted today:

 

HOT STOVE UPDATE….The Cubs are also watching the Angels pursuit of a third baseman because if the Halos land the right guy then they will be open to dealing speedster Chone Figgins who the Cubs would like to play in center field. The Cubs are also looking to add another starter to their rotation and do have some interest in A’s right hander Joe Blanton who Oakland GM Billy Beane is shopping. He would come at a high price though because he is very inexpensive and is still a few years from free agency.

 

http://wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=120&Itemid=236

Back to this again. Wouldn't mind either, but would prefer Blanton. Blanton would look nice in the rotation.

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Here's an update on Figgins and Blanton on David Kaplan's WGN Blog that was posted today:

 

HOT STOVE UPDATE….The Cubs are also watching the Angels pursuit of a third baseman because if the Halos land the right guy then they will be open to dealing speedster Chone Figgins who the Cubs would like to play in center field. The Cubs are also looking to add another starter to their rotation and do have some interest in A’s right hander Joe Blanton who Oakland GM Billy Beane is shopping. He would come at a high price though because he is very inexpensive and is still a few years from free agency.

 

http://wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=120&Itemid=236

Back to this again. Wouldn't mind either, but would prefer Blanton. Blanton would look nice in the rotation.

 

I guess we'd be giving up Pie for Blanton... Who the heck plays CF then?

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Here's an update on Figgins and Blanton on David Kaplan's WGN Blog that was posted today:

 

HOT STOVE UPDATE….The Cubs are also watching the Angels pursuit of a third baseman because if the Halos land the right guy then they will be open to dealing speedster Chone Figgins who the Cubs would like to play in center field. The Cubs are also looking to add another starter to their rotation and do have some interest in A’s right hander Joe Blanton who Oakland GM Billy Beane is shopping. He would come at a high price though because he is very inexpensive and is still a few years from free agency.

 

http://wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=120&Itemid=236

Back to this again. Wouldn't mind either, but would prefer Blanton. Blanton would look nice in the rotation.

 

I guess we'd be giving up Pie for Blanton... Who the heck plays CF then?

 

Looks like Figgins. Failing him, I would make it a platoon, getting a FA like Brady Clark to platoon with Fuld.

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Here's an update on Figgins and Blanton on David Kaplan's WGN Blog that was posted today:

 

HOT STOVE UPDATE….The Cubs are also watching the Angels pursuit of a third baseman because if the Halos land the right guy then they will be open to dealing speedster Chone Figgins who the Cubs would like to play in center field. The Cubs are also looking to add another starter to their rotation and do have some interest in A’s right hander Joe Blanton who Oakland GM Billy Beane is shopping. He would come at a high price though because he is very inexpensive and is still a few years from free agency.

 

http://wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=120&Itemid=236

Back to this again. Wouldn't mind either, but would prefer Blanton. Blanton would look nice in the rotation.

 

I guess we'd be giving up Pie for Blanton... Who the heck plays CF then?

 

Looks like Figgins. Failing him, I would make it a platoon, getting a FA like Brady Clark to platoon with Fuld.

 

I believe i just vomited

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Here's an update on Figgins and Blanton on David Kaplan's WGN Blog that was posted today:

 

HOT STOVE UPDATE….The Cubs are also watching the Angels pursuit of a third baseman because if the Halos land the right guy then they will be open to dealing speedster Chone Figgins who the Cubs would like to play in center field. The Cubs are also looking to add another starter to their rotation and do have some interest in A’s right hander Joe Blanton who Oakland GM Billy Beane is shopping. He would come at a high price though because he is very inexpensive and is still a few years from free agency.

 

http://wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=120&Itemid=236

Back to this again. Wouldn't mind either, but would prefer Blanton. Blanton would look nice in the rotation.

 

I guess we'd be giving up Pie for Blanton... Who the heck plays CF then?

 

Looks like Figgins. Failing him, I would make it a platoon, getting a FA like Brady Clark to platoon with Fuld.

 

I believe i just vomited

Yeah, Brady Clark doesn't seem like a very appealing idea.

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I'm trying to figure out if all of these deals are all related to each other. I can't imagine how, because I really don't think the Cubs have enough prospects to get Roberts, Figgins and Blanton.

 

And if they get all of these guys, I hope the next owner is ready to pay out some serious cash to retain all of these guys. You would think that Pie and Soto and possibly even Cedeno would be needed to balance out the escalating big contracts.

 

Any ideas how much talent the Cubs give up for these three guys?

 

1. Roberts for Gallagher, Murton and Patterson

2. Blanton for Pie and who else?

3. Figgins for ???

 

This would definitely be using the farm to "go for it", and I'm not opposed to "going for it". In fact, I rather prefer it. But, the farm will be looking rather glib for the next several years, so they better go all the way.

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I'm trying to figure out if all of these deals are all related to each other. I can't imagine how, because I really don't think the Cubs have enough prospects to get Roberts, Figgins and Blanton.

 

And if they get all of these guys, I hope the next owner is ready to pay out some serious cash to retain all of these guys. You would think that Pie and Soto and possibly even Cedeno would be needed to balance out the escalating big contracts.

 

Any ideas how much talent the Cubs give up for these three guys?

 

1. Roberts for Gallagher, Murton and Patterson

2. Blanton for Pie and who else?

3. Figgins for ???

 

This would definitely be using the farm to "go for it", and I'm not opposed to "going for it". In fact, I rather prefer it. But, the farm will be looking rather glib for the next several years, so they better go all the way.

Yeah, this may hurt in the long run, but if we win it all, I'll live with it.

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Yeah, this may hurt in the long run, but if we win it all, I'll live with it.

 

If you're going to sign guys to 9 figure deals, you have to go for it. Otherwise it just doesn't make any sense. If Hendry dumps the farm and gets Roberts, Figgins and Blanton, he's definitely going for it.

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Clark gets on base at a good clip, but his SLG is abysmal.

 

It's better when you look at his platoon split. Obviously a Fuld/RH CF FA platoon(In a different thread I listed several other possibilities besides Clark) isn't ideal, but if we can really upgrade the rotation and/or SS in the process, it could be a cheap way to get league average production out of CF.

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Just imagine if I signed up at OriolesHangout as another resident Cubs fan. That'd throw them the hell off.

Haha. This is random, and I may be a bit immature, but did you read what some Dodgers forum replied to a guy when he posted one of the insiders rumored trades? I don't know why but I was LMAO.

 

Note: Profanity inside

http://www.dodgerblues.com//fanforum/nfphpbb/viewtopic.php?p=186758#186758

 

 

HAHAHAHHA I loved the part where he says the trade in terms of describing people ( a future ace, a serviceable 3B...) and then he gets to Pierre.

 

I'm just jealous they can swear.

 

It certainly does make it more entertaining. Less classy, but more entertaining.

 

Please! Like anyone on here is classy.

 

The 1st response alone was great.

Yeah I should have stopped reading after that.

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I have a hard time believing we have the chips necessary to pull out that "dream" scenario of Fukudome, Figgins, Roberts, and Blanton. In terms of money and players given up it doesn't make much sense. Pie would have to headline one deal, Marshall another, and Murton+Gallagher a third. So for example, Pie+Cedeno+lower tier minor leaguer gets us Roberts, Murton+Gallagher+lower tier minor leaguer gets us Figgins, and Marshall+Prior gets us Blanton. It drains us of pretty much all our tradable assets, and even those packages might not be enough.

 

If the Cubs got Figgins they wouldn't need Roberts

 

Cubs get Figgins

 

Angels get Gallagher, Marshall and Inge

 

Tigers get Hart, Harvey & PTBNL

 

yowza. you'd give up gallagher, marshall, hart, and harvey (who sucks, so whatever) for Figgins?

Yeah, that is a bit much.

 

That's a deal I'd like to give a Dodger Blues response to.

 

I was trying to be realistic in what the Angels would probably want/ what Hendry would likely do. I wouldn't trade Gallagher straight up for Figgins.

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I'm not a Blanton fan. Park factored, less above average this year than he was below average last year. Still, in a world where Lilly and Silva get what they get, a league average pitcher is pretty valuable. And given the Q's associated with Dempster/Marquis/Marshall/Hart (assuming Gallagher is going in Roberts deal), having a reliable league-average 4th starter who might even be a big above average, that could help. The one appeal is that he doesn't walk people, so Lou might enjoy that. Would seem to be kind of in the Marquis camp, basically a fastball pitcher with no K-pitch but not too many walks.

 

I have no idea how to gage his market. Would A's have any interest in Pie, and how close would Pie get you for a Blanton? Pie doesn't seem like an Oakland type guy. Although his minor-league numbers and age progression might look pretty juicy. Would Pie be way too little? How about Pie and Marshall? Too much or too little? I really have a hard time guessing. But Im inclined to think that any pitcher who's halfway respectable is grossly overpriced in trade. On the other hand, I'm not averse to dealing Pie. Might work out well. Colvin might be as good as Pie by next year anyway, or perhaps better, so that losing him would cost nothing long-term.

 

The Figgins stuff, I also have no idea what his market would be like. My guess is they don't really like his 3B defense. Don't know if he'd cost a ton, or would be available for some package that wouldn't hurt us too badly. Not likely

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If you had a choice, Blanton or Bedard?

Bedard

Not sure. I guess bedrard is better, but can't he walk after 08'? Blanton is locked up through 2010, IIRC. Is the difference between them so great that you'd risk only getting one season out of Bedard and then have to pony-up as much as $15 mill a yr to retain him?

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