Kenny Cracks Me Up

[moochpuppy]

Once again you're talking about Gavin Floyd as something more than a negative.

 

They're going to have a terrible defense with a mediocre offense, and a 2 man starting rotation. They are a bad team.

 

Jay Mariotti? Is that you?

 

 

Pointing out the truth makes him Jay Mariotti?

 

Truth and Mariotti should never be mentioned in the same sentence.

[moochpuppy]

2007 Standings:

Sox 97-65

Twins 93-69

Tigers 87-75

Indians 80-82

Royals 63-99

 

Nothing better to do SSR? :grin:

[moochpuppy]

2007 Standings:

Sox 97-65

Twins 93-69

Tigers 87-75

Indians 80-82

Royals 63-99

I don't know what this is, but if the Sox win 80 games this year, I'll poop myself.

 

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[moochpuppy]

2007 Standings:

Sox 97-65

Twins 93-69

Tigers 87-75

Indians 80-82

Royals 63-99

I don't know what this is, but if the Sox win 80 games this year, I'll poop myself.

 

I assume it's moochpuppy's predictions for the AL Central last year. SSR posted it because moochpuppy is very optimistic about the White Sox this year just like he apparently was last year and the Sox performed 25 games worse than moochpuppy predicted.

 

Nothing wrong about being optimistic about your team. The previous 2 seasons the Sox had averaged 95 wins so to improve on that by two games is not optimistic but realistic. The Sox had injuries and a handfull of players that had off years compared to previous production.

 

Anyway, we all know which fans in this town hold the patent on optimism. ;)

[UMFan83]

Again, I'm not saying the Sox have a great shot to be good. I am just saying they have a lot of pieces that if play up to reasonable (but optimistic) expectations, they can compete for at least a Wild Card. You're right, Gavin Floyd is no longer highly rated. I am not expecting him to be an all star or anything, but he could be a decent 5th starter. If they need to make a move they can probably pull one off at the deadline.

 

Mostly I'm speaking out again people who think the White Sox are destined for 68 wins or something. They are much better than a sub-70 win team. I expect them to have at least 75 wins, but if everything breaks right, up to 90 wins.

[moochpuppy]

If they need to make a move they can probably pull one off at the deadline.

 

 

Like a cheap and healthy Joe Crede for mid-rotation starter.

[Backtobanks]

BTW, I do think they have a shot of returning to the playoffs this season.

:shock:

 

For which professional sport? 'cause it won't be baseball.

 

Sounds like someone is forgetting 2005. Of course you are going to say 2005 was a tremendous fluke and you can't base your opinion on that, and you may be right. But like I've been saying all offseason, I think they have a shot. Not a very good one, but they have one. Their staff can either be really bad or really good. Floyd and Danks have to play to their potential, but if they do, their offense is good enough to lead it to a wild card.

 

Floyd and Danks would have to play way over their potential for the Sox to do anything. As for their offense, let's not forget that some of these guys are getting old. They will be in a battle for 3rd place at best.

[moochpuppy]

 

Floyd and Danks would have to play way over their potential for the Sox to do anything. As for their offense, let's not forget that some of these guys are getting old. They will be in a battle for 3rd place at best.

 

Floyd and Danks just have to be average for the Sox to contend and the offense isn't any older than the Cubs who many predict to win their division. Although the NL Central is no AL Central.

[UK1679666180]

MP, while I don't dislike the Sox or anything like that, it's going to take 90+ wins to likely compete for 2nd in that division. I don't see the horses or the resources to acquire additional talent for them to compete with Clev. or Detroit.

 

With that said, they're likely going to be the second best in the AL as far as improving their record over last year finishing between 80-85 wins.

[moochpuppy]

MP, while I don't dislike the Sox or anything like that, it's going to take 90+ wins to likely compete for 2nd in that division. I don't see the horses or the resources to acquire additional talent for them to compete with Clev. or Detroit.

 

With that said, they're likely going to be the second best in the AL as far as improving their record over last year finishing between 80-85 wins.

 

When Crede comes back and proves he's healthy (along with his cheap contract) the Sox should easily be able to trade him for another mid rotation starter. One more starter means they can bump Danks or Floyd (I say Floyd) from the rotation. With Dotel, Linebrink in the bullpen along with a return to form from MacDougal they have a solid pen which killed them last season. Couple that with Konerko and Dye getting their averages back up to their career levels and the Sox can contend.

 

The Tigers have an awesome lineup no doubt but their pitching is still young and I think Willis is going to get rocked in the AL. I think Cleveland is the all-around better team and I think the rest of the division will be chasing them come August and September. I think the Sox can finish with 90-92 wins and get the AL Wild Card.

[SouthSideRyan]

If they need to make a move they can probably pull one off at the deadline.

 

 

Like a cheap and healthy Joe Crede for mid-rotation starter.

 

I'm not sure either of those exist anymore.

[1908]

I think the Sox can finish with 90-92 wins and get the AL Wild Card.

You think 92 wins will be enough to beat out either the Red Sox or Yankees, whichever one doesn't win the East?

[BigbadB]

I think the Sox can finish with 90-92 wins and get the AL Wild Card.

You think 92 wins will be enough to beat out either the Red Sox or Yankees, whichever one doesn't win the East?

 

Before they ever start worrying about NY and Boston, they should probably worry first about Cleveland and Detroit. :wink:

[SouthSideRyan]

I think the Sox can finish with 90-92 wins and get the AL Wild Card.

You think 92 wins will be enough to beat out either the Red Sox or Yankees, whichever one doesn't win the East?

 

Before they ever start worrying about NY and Boston, they should probably worry first about Cleveland and Detroit. :wink:

 

Yeah I'm not sure 92 wins gets you wild card runner up.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Even then, how in the world are the White Sox 20 wins better this year? 25 if you go by pythagorean?

[RedFlash]

Yeah I'm not sure 92 wins gets you wild card runner up.

 

IDK is the White Sox will even get 92 wins in 08. I mean, that division is top loaded with Detroit and Cleveland. Not to mention KC should be further along in their development (heck, I could see KC finishing ahead of the White Sox this yr). Not to mention to win 92 games in the AL, would require the White Sox to basically win 75% of the games against the Yanks/Red Sox/Blue Jays to a degree/Angels/Mariners/Tigers/Indians. And quite frankly, I don't believe the White Sox are talented enough to win half the games against those teams, much less win the Wild Card.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Maybe the Sox can finish with 90-92 wins, but it's more likely they'll finish with 80.

[wolf stansson]

Maybe the Sox can finish with 90-92 wins, but it's more likely they'll finish with 80.

At this point I think even 80 would be optimistic.

[Backtobanks]

There's no way that the WS win 92 games this year. I agree with the prediction of about 80 wins. All of my posts in this thread were about the fact that Kenny Williams should trade his assets for prospects because the Sox aren't going to win this year. MacPhail has really set the pace for the Orioles with more prospects coming whenever he trades Roberts. MacPhail has picked up 10 young players for trading 2 of his stars. I wonder what kind (and how many) of young players Williams could have gotten for Buerhle, Konerko, Dye, Vasquez, Garland, and Crede if he decided to rebuild.

[inari]

If they need to make a move they can probably pull one off at the deadline.

 

 

Like a cheap and healthy Joe Crede for mid-rotation starter.

 

Crede is not good. He won't net a middle of the rotation starter even if he can prove that he's so immune to injury that he's developed a resistance to the common cold.

 

I think the White Sox are probably going to finish right around .500. It's a dramatic improvement. Nothing wrong with that.