MacPhail: Deal is dead (p. 297), stop posting, go outside

[RammyFanny]

From the PSD Forums:

I'm not saying this is going to happen nor did Bruce Levine but he did say to watch for a trade for Brian Roberts during the winter meetings. I think he would be an ideal fit for the Cubs. Here are his numbers from last year, AVG .290 | HR 12 | RBI 57 | OBP .377 | SLG .432. Put him in the leadoff spot and put Fukudome #2 and you would have a lineup like this.

Roberts

Fukudome

Lee

Ramirez

Soriano

Derosa

Soto

Pie

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166821

 

He's also a switch hitter which Hendry would of course approve of since that includes using your left hand. He's not too expensive, and relatively young (30). I don't know if we would play him at second or try to move him back to short (which would be amazing if he could do it), but he would be an excellent addition to the top of the order. If we can go from Kaz Matsui to Roberts (even if it's only by luck), that would be amazing. And while browsing over Roberts' stats, I can't help but think this is about what Fukudome should put up (with a few more HR's). If we could add both Fuku and Roberts it would be a pretty nice boost to the OBP department.

 

Edit: His 50 SB's at a good clip will make him that more appealing to Hendry.

Edited March 25, 2008 by RammyFanny

[rawaction]

Don't see the Orioles incentive to trade Roberts. And no, neither Roberts nor Derosa can play SS long-term. Though, Roberts is a player, I wouldn't mind Derosa being the supersub for if he's not starting.

[RammyFanny]

Don't see the Orioles incentive to trade Roberts. And no, neither Roberts nor Derosa can play SS long-term. Though, Roberts is a player, I wouldn't mind Derosa being the supersub for if he's not starting.

I do recall Roberts playing a pretty good SS awhile back, and they did have Tejada there all these years. I'm not going to pretend like i'm an avid Orioles watcher, but I think there's a chance he could still play it. Even if we were to get him with the intention of him playing 2B and using Derosa in that role, I still think he could eventually prove he can play SS and push Theriot into the utility role when he starts struggling. Hell, Lou even tried Fontenot at short, no?

[Post Count Padder]

I like the sound of Brian Roberts batting leadoff for us, but what would we have to give up?

[E.J.]

Don't see the Orioles incentive to trade Roberts. And no, neither Roberts nor Derosa can play SS long-term. Though, Roberts is a player, I wouldn't mind Derosa being the supersub for if he's not starting.

 

I've been following the talks over at orioleshangout.com, and the general consensus is that MacPhail is going to completely dismantle the team and start over. Bedard and Tejada are pretty much as good as gone. It wouldn't surprise me seeing Roberts traded as well.

[Post Count Padder]

Don't see the Orioles incentive to trade Roberts. And no, neither Roberts nor Derosa can play SS long-term. Though, Roberts is a player, I wouldn't mind Derosa being the supersub for if he's not starting.

 

I've been following the talks over at orioleshangout.com, and the general consensus is that MacPhail is going to completely dismantle the team and start over. Bedard and Tejada are pretty much as good as gone. It wouldn't surprise me seeing Roberts traded as well.

Does Cedeno, Pie, Marshall, and Veal get it done for Roberts and Tejada? We'd probably have to give a bit more.

[Abe Frohman]

I know Markakis isn't getting traded, but I sure would love to see that guy with the Cubs.

[javy knows my name]

Don't see the Orioles incentive to trade Roberts. And no, neither Roberts nor Derosa can play SS long-term. Though, Roberts is a player, I wouldn't mind Derosa being the supersub for if he's not starting.

 

I've been following the talks over at orioleshangout.com, and the general consensus is that MacPhail is going to completely dismantle the team and start over. Bedard and Tejada are pretty much as good as gone. It wouldn't surprise me seeing Roberts traded as well.

Does Cedeno, Pie, Marshall, and Veal get it done for Roberts and Tejada? We'd probably have to give a bit more.

Sub Gallagher for Veal and call it an offseason.

[Keener98]

Don't see the Orioles incentive to trade Roberts. And no, neither Roberts nor Derosa can play SS long-term. Though, Roberts is a player, I wouldn't mind Derosa being the supersub for if he's not starting.

 

I've been following the talks over at orioleshangout.com, and the general consensus is that MacPhail is going to completely dismantle the team and start over. Bedard and Tejada are pretty much as good as gone. It wouldn't surprise me seeing Roberts traded as well.

Does Cedeno, Pie, Marshall, and Veal get it done for Roberts and Tejada? We'd probably have to give a bit more.

 

Its MacPhail he would probably want less.

[nilodnayr]

Don't see the Orioles incentive to trade Roberts. And no, neither Roberts nor Derosa can play SS long-term. Though, Roberts is a player, I wouldn't mind Derosa being the supersub for if he's not starting.

 

I've been following the talks over at orioleshangout.com, and the general consensus is that MacPhail is going to completely dismantle the team and start over. Bedard and Tejada are pretty much as good as gone. It wouldn't surprise me seeing Roberts traded as well.

 

I agree. Roberts is only signed for two more years. Hes 30, so he'll probably be on the decline after this contract so it won't make sense to sign him to an extention. The problem is that there isn't a big demand for 2bs out there (except of course for Hendry), so they probably wont be able to get max value.

[Roast]

Don't see the Orioles incentive to trade Roberts. And no, neither Roberts nor Derosa can play SS long-term. Though, Roberts is a player, I wouldn't mind Derosa being the supersub for if he's not starting.

 

I've been following the talks over at orioleshangout.com, and the general consensus is that MacPhail is going to completely dismantle the team and start over. Bedard and Tejada are pretty much as good as gone. It wouldn't surprise me seeing Roberts traded as well.

Does Cedeno, Pie, Marshall, and Veal get it done for Roberts and Tejada? We'd probably have to give a bit more.

 

My only beef with trading Pie is that our outfield would be pretty terrible unless we could sign Fukudome as well.

[RammyFanny]

They really don't have anyone close to a good LF'er. Would they go for a Murton/Epatt (with the intention of trying him at 2nd and possibly center)/Hart deal be enough?

 

Maybe Gallagher and a lower prospect? I really want to try and hold onto Gallagher at all costs though. If they would bite on the Murton/Epatt/Hart package or something along those lines, you've got to pull the trigger IMO.

[Outshined_One]

Bruce Miles said in another thread that money was the big factor getting in the way of a potential trade involving Tejada. I think they'd have to get the Orioles to throw some cash into the deal, but Peter Angelos is a notorious cheapskate. I really don't think he'd be willing to pay part of Tejada's salary unless the Orioles committed highway robbery on a trade.

 

Roberts was recently signed to a 2 year deal for 2008 worth $14.3m. I'm not so sure how much I'd like having him at 2B with DeRosa around. If the Cubs legitimately think he can play SS effectively, I'd be all for it. If he'd just be acquired to be yet another in a long line of potential 2B candidates, I wouldn't be interested.

[Post Count Padder]

Don't see the Orioles incentive to trade Roberts. And no, neither Roberts nor Derosa can play SS long-term. Though, Roberts is a player, I wouldn't mind Derosa being the supersub for if he's not starting.

 

I've been following the talks over at orioleshangout.com, and the general consensus is that MacPhail is going to completely dismantle the team and start over. Bedard and Tejada are pretty much as good as gone. It wouldn't surprise me seeing Roberts traded as well.

Does Cedeno, Pie, Marshall, and Veal get it done for Roberts and Tejada? We'd probably have to give a bit more.

 

My only beef with trading Pie is that our outfield would be pretty terrible unless we could sign Fukudome as well.

My plan is to sign him and then make the trade.

 

Roberts

Fukudome

Lee

Ramirez

Soriano

Tejada

Murton

Soto

 

Awesome. Now if only I was the GM....

[Keener98]

Bruce Miles said in another thread that money was the big factor getting in the way of a potential trade involving Tejada. I think they'd have to get the Orioles to throw some cash into the deal, but Peter Angelos is a notorious cheapskate. I really don't think he'd be willing to pay part of Tejada's salary unless the Orioles committed highway robbery on a trade.

 

Roberts was recently signed to a 2 year deal for 2008 worth $14.3m. I'm not so sure how much I'd like having him at 2B with DeRosa around. If the Cubs legitimately think he can play SS effectively, I'd be all for it. If he'd just be acquired to be yet another in a long line of potential 2B candidates, I wouldn't be interested.

 

Wait, what? Hendry was willing to sign Matsui for like 15 million, but money is getting in the way of Tejada? Jesus, get this [expletive] out of Chicago.

[Roast]

Bruce Miles said in another thread that money was the big factor getting in the way of a potential trade involving Tejada. I think they'd have to get the Orioles to throw some cash into the deal, but Peter Angelos is a notorious cheapskate. I really don't think he'd be willing to pay part of Tejada's salary unless the Orioles committed highway robbery on a trade.

 

Roberts was recently signed to a 2 year deal for 2008 worth $14.3m. I'm not so sure how much I'd like having him at 2B with DeRosa around. If the Cubs legitimately think he can play SS effectively, I'd be all for it. If he'd just be acquired to be yet another in a long line of potential 2B candidates, I wouldn't be interested.

 

Wait, what? Hendry was willing to sign Matsui for like 15 million, but money is getting in the way of Tejada? Jesus, get this [expletive] out of Chicago.

 

Why? That makes perfect sense. Tejada isn't nearly fast enough to deserve that kind of money.

[E.J.]

Bruce Miles said in another thread that money was the big factor getting in the way of a potential trade involving Tejada. I think they'd have to get the Orioles to throw some cash into the deal, but Peter Angelos is a notorious cheapskate. I really don't think he'd be willing to pay part of Tejada's salary unless the Orioles committed highway robbery on a trade.

 

Roberts was recently signed to a 2 year deal for 2008 worth $14.3m. I'm not so sure how much I'd like having him at 2B with DeRosa around. If the Cubs legitimately think he can play SS effectively, I'd be all for it. If he'd just be acquired to be yet another in a long line of potential 2B candidates, I wouldn't be interested.

 

Wait, what? Hendry was willing to sign Matsui for like 15 million, but money is getting in the way of Tejada? Jesus, get this [expletive] out of Chicago.

 

Why? That makes perfect sense. Tejada isn't nearly fast enough to deserve that kind of money.

 

Don't forget he can't hit LH. Plus, his catching skills have been on the decline.

[Outshined_One]

The post in question.

 

Tejada is set to make $26m over the next two years, for those of you who are curious.

[Schwarber Fan]

I fail to see how this is a decent rumor...

 

Levine "may have" said Roberts "might be" traded... and mentioned no teams let alone the Cubs

[E.J.]

I fail to see how this is a decent rumor...

 

Levine "may have" said Roberts "might be" traded... and mentioned no teams let alone the Cubs

 

We're bored. Leave us alone.

[ThePenguin11]

How does this qualify as a rumor? This isn't even speculation. The possibility that Brian Roberts might get traded in no way relates to the Cubs. This should be titled something like "Levine reports Brian Roberts may be available" or "Brian Roberts as a possible trade target".

[Bruno7481]

I think Roberts would be a very good pickup. Good OBP, 40+ doubles, 86% SB rate the past two years.

[Schwarber Fan]

How does this qualify as a rumor? This isn't even speculation. The possibility that Brian Roberts might get traded in no way relates to the Cubs. This should be titled something like "Levine reports Brian Roberts may be available" or "Brian Roberts as a possible trade target".

 

Bingo

[mdwilla]

I can see Hendry and MacPhail hammering something out at the winter meetings. I wonder if we could some how get them to take Jason Marquis off our hands. Getting Roberts and Miggy for our infield would be a huge coupe for Hendry. I'm guessing Pie gets sent in a deal only if the Orioles take Marquis off are hands or eat some cash in the deal.

 

Roberts

Fukodome

Lee

Ramirez

Soranio

Miggy

Murton

Soto

[sethuel1]

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