College Football - Championship Week

[CuseCubFan69]

oh, i would be so happy if usc played the illini.

 

softy mcsoft. it would be so much fun watching the illini offense bully around that usc defense.

 

Doesn't USC have like 85 first round picks on defense?

 

so does ohio state.

 

But USC pays better.

[NewUserName]

Yeah, that front 7 for USC is so soft. Maualuga and Rivers are practically teddy bears.

 

Assuming USC beats UCLA this weekend, they're gonna drill either OSU or Illinois if they play in the Rose Bowl.

 

Oregon's the only team USC has played all year that was better than OSU or Illinois. They lost to them.

 

They lost by 7 on the road with their backup QB in the game and were driving for the tying TD when Sanchez threw the pick.

 

USC also outgained Oregon 378-339 and held Dixon to his worst game passing (going by passer rating) of the year. It's not like Oregon dominated the game and Dennis Dixon is a much better QB than Juice Williams. Did you see what the USC offense did to Arizona State's defense last Thursday? And Arizona State's defense is allowing fewer rushing ypg and passing ypg in an offensive league than Illinois is this year.

 

Not to mention that if they played in the Rose Bowl, it would be a de facto home game for USC.

 

I'm not debating that USC would be favored against U of I and probably by about a TD. But to say they'd drill Illinois or tOSU is quite an exaggeration.

 

There seems to suddenly be this prevailing notion that Illinois and Ohio St. are terrible teams, and I'm not quite sure where it's coming from.

 

 

Its the preception that the Big Ten is very weak this year. Based mostly on Michigans struggles and teams inside the conference beating each other up. I agree that the Big Ten is down this year, But they are not that bad. I think they are going to win their share of bowl games and surprise some people. However I do think USC is going to beat either OSU or Illinois in the Rose Bowl.

[Magnetic Curses]

there is quite a large anti-b10 bias on this board for whatever reason.

[CuseCubFan69]

there is quite a large anti-b10 bias on this board for whatever reason.

 

The Big 10 beat no one outside of the Big 10 that was any good, that's why. Nothing personal Sully, it's just business.

[Derwood]

there is quite a large anti-b10 bias on this board for whatever reason.

 

The Big 10 beat no one outside of the Big 10 that was any good, that's why. Nothing personal Sully, it's just business.

 

can't beat anyone good if you don't play anyone good. blame the AD's for the scheduling, not the kids for playing (okay, blame Michigan for getting horse-whipped by a team with a Heisman candidate on it)

[CuseCubFan69]

there is quite a large anti-b10 bias on this board for whatever reason.

 

The Big 10 beat no one outside of the Big 10 that was any good, that's why. Nothing personal Sully, it's just business.

 

can't beat anyone good if you don't play anyone good. blame the AD's for the scheduling, not the kids for playing (okay, blame Michigan for getting horse-whipped by a team with a Heisman candidate on it)

 

I also blame too many of the teams depending on ND being good. They are always their main OOC team and this year it bit them in the butt. This is why you need each conference to play different BCS leagues and not focus on just one or 2. I consider ND a BCS league.

[Guest]

Well then, don't criticize USC for not beating anyone good (though ASU is a better win than any Ohio State has had). They're not the same team that was banged up vs. Stanford and Oregon.

[bukie]

I also don't get the perception that Illinois is going to get drilled. Technically, they played 2 of the top 3 teams, basically dominated one of them the entire game, and lost to the other on a goal-line interception when driving for the winning TD. Lose? Sure, they can lose. Anyone can lose. But Illinois hasn't gotten drilled yet.

[Mephistopheles]

Technically they did not.

[bukie]

Technically they did not.

 

Which definition of technical do you want to use to be appeased semantically? They are both 1st, 2nd or 3rd in every poll. Computer average is 1st and 3rd. If you want to go as far as a pure points predictor, at worst they would both be top 10 teams.

[Keener98]

All this talk about Ohio State and Illinois being not very good but yet West Virginia sits at #2 when their best win was Cincinnati?UConn? Ohio State and U of I have better wins than them, but yet Ive seen nobody saying WV shouldnt be in the National Championship game.

[Mephistopheles]

Nah talent level man. USC would overmatch them most of the time, although SC also throws a dud out there every now and then. Still most of the time SC will outclass the Illini and beat em pretty handily. Every few games the Illini would hang in, mainly because SC fell on their face.

[Keener98]

Nah talent level man. USC would overmatch them most of the time, although SC also throws a dud out there every now and then. Still most of the time SC will outclass the Illini and beat em pretty handily. Every few games the Illini would hang in, mainly because SC fell on their face.

 

 

In case you havent noticed U of I has some pretty good pro prospects on their team as well.

[Mephistopheles]

All this talk about Ohio State and Illinois being not very good but yet West Virginia sits at #2 when their best win was Cincinnati?UConn? Ohio State and U of I have better wins than them, but yet Ive seen nobody saying WV shouldnt be in the National Championship game.

 

im pretty sure everyone says they shouldnt be there, but of the remaining one loss teams they should be one of the two in it.

[Mephistopheles]

Nah talent level man. USC would overmatch them most of the time, although SC also throws a dud out there every now and then. Still most of the time SC will outclass the Illini and beat em pretty handily. Every few games the Illini would hang in, mainly because SC fell on their face.

 

 

In case you havent noticed U of I has some pretty good pro prospects on their team as well.

 

you have two or three, compared to USC having 2 or 3 in their runningback stables alone. it's not comparable. don't pretend it is.

[Keener98]

All this talk about Ohio State and Illinois being not very good but yet West Virginia sits at #2 when their best win was Cincinnati?UConn? Ohio State and U of I have better wins than them, but yet Ive seen nobody saying WV shouldnt be in the National Championship game.

 

im pretty sure everyone says they shouldnt be there, but of the remaining one loss teams they should be one of the two in it.

 

Ok I hadnt seen it I guess. Why should they be in over Ohio State? Ohio State has better wins than WV. And Ohio States loss is a better loss than WV.

[Mephistopheles]

All this talk about Ohio State and Illinois being not very good but yet West Virginia sits at #2 when their best win was Cincinnati?UConn? Ohio State and U of I have better wins than them, but yet Ive seen nobody saying WV shouldnt be in the National Championship game.

 

im pretty sure everyone says they shouldnt be there, but of the remaining one loss teams they should be one of the two in it.

 

Ok I hadnt seen it I guess. Why should they be in over Ohio State? Ohio State has better wins than WV. And Ohio States loss is a better loss than WV.

 

This is untrue. South Florida's better than Illinois. Who did Ohio State beat? Random Big Ten crap? The Big East >>>>>>>>>> Big Ten this year. And OSUs nonconference slate didn't make up the difference.

Edited November 29, 2007 by Mephistopheles

[Keener98]

Nah talent level man. USC would overmatch them most of the time, although SC also throws a dud out there every now and then. Still most of the time SC will outclass the Illini and beat em pretty handily. Every few games the Illini would hang in, mainly because SC fell on their face.

 

 

In case you havent noticed U of I has some pretty good pro prospects on their team as well.

 

you have two or three, compared to USC having 2 or 3 in their runningback stables alone. it's not comparable. don't pretend it is.

 

Mendenhall, Vontae Davis, Benn, Wilson, Juice, Leman, Wilson, and 2-3 offensive lineman

[bukie]

West Viriginia has been more impressive against a tougher schedule than Ohio State. I have no problem being one of the two 1-loss representatives in a bowl.

 

Missouri has also played a tougher schedule than Ohio State, but I'm not sure Missouri is a better team than Oklahoma.

[CuseCubFan69]

All this talk about Ohio State and Illinois being not very good but yet West Virginia sits at #2 when their best win was Cincinnati?UConn? Ohio State and U of I have better wins than them, but yet Ive seen nobody saying WV shouldnt be in the National Championship game.

 

im pretty sure everyone says they shouldnt be there, but of the remaining one loss teams they should be one of the two in it.

 

Ok I hadnt seen it I guess. Why should they be in over Ohio State? Ohio State has better wins than WV. And Ohio States loss is a better loss than WV.

 

South Florida has a better computer ranking than Illinois and they beat WV at home while OSU lost at home, how is that better? WV beat Miss St 38-13 and Maryland 31-14 while having a better SOS than OSU. Please tell me who OSU beat out of conference?

[Keener98]

All this talk about Ohio State and Illinois being not very good but yet West Virginia sits at #2 when their best win was Cincinnati?UConn? Ohio State and U of I have better wins than them, but yet Ive seen nobody saying WV shouldnt be in the National Championship game.

 

im pretty sure everyone says they shouldnt be there, but of the remaining one loss teams they should be one of the two in it.

 

Ok I hadnt seen it I guess. Why should they be in over Ohio State? Ohio State has better wins than WV. And Ohio States loss is a better loss than WV.

 

This is untrue. South Florida's better than Illinois. Who did Ohio State beat? Random Big Ten crap? The Big East >>>>>>>>>> Big Ten this year. And OSUs nonconference slate didn't make up the difference.

 

SF is better than Illinois? Please they arent even ranked And West Virginia beat random Big East crap.

 

WV non conference is terrible also.

Edited November 29, 2007 by Keener98

[Mephistopheles]

Nah talent level man. USC would overmatch them most of the time, although SC also throws a dud out there every now and then. Still most of the time SC will outclass the Illini and beat em pretty handily. Every few games the Illini would hang in, mainly because SC fell on their face.

 

 

In case you havent noticed U of I has some pretty good pro prospects on their team as well.

 

you have two or three, compared to USC having 2 or 3 in their runningback stables alone. it's not comparable. don't pretend it is.

 

Mendenhall, Vontae Davis, Benn, Wilson, Juice, Leman, Wilson, and 2-3 offensive lineman

 

Yeah...you're not being biased. I guess you're including 5th and 6th round talents as pretty good pro prospects. Who in the world is saying Juice Williams is a "pretty good pro prospect" Just you Illinois fans? My lord. The guy can't complete a pass, he's terrible. He's no different than Reggie Ball.

[bukie]

SF is better than Illinois? Please they arent even ranked And West Virginia beat random Big East crap.

 

WV non conference is terrible also.

 

Yes, I would say South Florida is better than Illinois. USF merely managed to lose all 3 of their games in a row to drop off the human polls' radar.

 

Florida, USC, West Virginia and Ohio State are also better teams than Illinois.

 

Personally, I'm just glad they are in the discussion this year. I still don't think they get blown out by whoever they play.

[CuseCubFan69]

West Viriginia has been more impressive against a tougher schedule than Ohio State. I have no problem being one of the two 1-loss representatives in a bowl.

 

Missouri has also played a tougher schedule than Ohio State, but I'm not sure Missouri is a better team than Oklahoma.

 

At least we will find out this weekend if that's true.

[Mephistopheles]

All this talk about Ohio State and Illinois being not very good but yet West Virginia sits at #2 when their best win was Cincinnati?UConn? Ohio State and U of I have better wins than them, but yet Ive seen nobody saying WV shouldnt be in the National Championship game.

 

im pretty sure everyone says they shouldnt be there, but of the remaining one loss teams they should be one of the two in it.

 

Ok I hadnt seen it I guess. Why should they be in over Ohio State? Ohio State has better wins than WV. And Ohio States loss is a better loss than WV.

 

This is untrue. South Florida's better than Illinois. Who did Ohio State beat? Random Big Ten crap? The Big East >>>>>>>>>> Big Ten this year. And OSUs nonconference slate didn't make up the difference.

 

SF is better than Illinois? Please they arent even ranked And West Virginia beat random Big East crap.

 

WV non conference is terrible also.

 

Read what I said: Random Big East Crap >>>>>> Random Big Ten Crap. The Big East crap you want to talk about is the second best conference in the COUNTRY with Dixon out. Meanwhile the Big Ten crap is borderline mid-major territory.

 

And yes USF is better than Illinois.