ARod (probably) staying w/ Yankees

[cubweiser03]

Do the Yankees ever get a hometown discount.

[OleMissCub]

If I'm going to pay you 27 million a year, you damn well better be able to hit AND pitch.

That doesn't happen anymore, guy.

 

That's exactly my point. I wouldn't pay ANYONE playing today that kind of money.

 

I bet you'd pay zombie Ty Cobb that kinda scratch.

 

....perhaps...Cobb's best year v. A-Rod's best year.

 

.420/.467/.620, 196 OPS+, 127rbi, 83sb >> .314/.422/.645, 177 OPS+, 156 rbi, 24 sb

[Derwood]

If I'm going to pay you 27 million a year, you damn well better be able to hit AND pitch.

That doesn't happen anymore, guy.

 

That's exactly my point. I wouldn't pay ANYONE playing today that kind of money.

 

I bet you'd pay zombie Ty Cobb that kinda scratch.

 

....perhaps...Cobb's best year v. A-Rod's best year.

 

.420/.467/.620, 196 OPS+, 127rbi, 83sb >> .314/.422/.645, 177 OPS+, 156 rbi, 24 sb

 

 

oh, not this **** again

[Wheelimus]

If I'm going to pay you 27 million a year, you damn well better be able to hit AND pitch.

That doesn't happen anymore, guy.

 

That's exactly my point. I wouldn't pay ANYONE playing today that kind of money.

 

I bet you'd pay zombie Ty Cobb that kinda scratch.

 

....perhaps...Cobb's best year v. A-Rod's best year.

 

.420/.467/.620, 196 OPS+, 127rbi, 83sb >> .314/.422/.645, 177 OPS+, 156 rbi, 24 sb

 

Obviously, the answer is to have Zombie Ty Cobb bite A-Rod, then we can have both Zombie Ty Cobb and Zombie A-Rod.

 

Just have to hope that Hendry doesn't sign Zombie Neifi Perez. :lol:

[OleMissCub]

 

oh, not this **** again

 

Because of course baseball didn't matter until 1983.

[CubinNY]

Obviously, the answer is to have Zombie Ty Cobb bite A-Rod, then we can have both Zombie Ty Cobb and Zombie A-Rod.

That would be awesome. Hendry could pay them in bums who hang around Wrigley. I imagine that Ronny Woo Woo would be first.

[OleMissCub]

Obviously, the answer is to have Zombie Ty Cobb bite A-Rod, then we can have both Zombie Ty Cobb and Zombie A-Rod.

That would be awesome. Hendry could pay them in bums who hang around Wrigley. I imagine that Ronny Woo Woo would be first.

 

They should eat those kids who play the buckets.

[abuck1220]

 

oh, not this **** again

 

Because of course baseball didn't matter until 1983.

 

we get it, you like ty cobb.

[SouthSideRyan]

To be fair, I may have had something to do with the Ty Cobb topic coming up. Maybe.

[OleMissCub]

 

oh, not this **** again

 

Because of course baseball didn't matter until 1983.

 

we get it, you like ty cobb.

 

Was I trying to make the point that I like him?? I wasn't trying to make anyone "get" anything, least of which you.

[Sammy Sofa]

Obviously, the answer is to have Zombie Ty Cobb bite A-Rod, then we can have both Zombie Ty Cobb and Zombie A-Rod.

That would be awesome. Hendry could pay them in bums who hang around Wrigley. I imagine that Ronny Woo Woo would be first.

 

They should eat those kids who play the buckets.

 

Just because you're allergic to rhythm doesn't mean you need to ruin it to the rest of us.

[javy knows my name]

 

oh, not this **** again

 

Because of course baseball didn't matter until 1983.

 

we get it, you like ty cobb.

Funny, considering that nobody else liked him when he played :lol:

[Chocolate Milk]

If I'm going to pay you 27 million a year, you damn well better be able to hit AND pitch.

That doesn't happen anymore, guy.

 

That's exactly my point. I wouldn't pay ANYONE playing today that kind of money.

 

I bet you'd pay zombie Ty Cobb that kinda scratch.

 

....perhaps...Cobb's best year v. A-Rod's best year.

 

.420/.467/.620, 196 OPS+, 127rbi, 83sb >> .314/.422/.645, 177 OPS+, 156 rbi, 24 sb

 

Why do you deify this old timey racist? If bizarre to say the least.

[nilodnayr]

If I'm going to pay you 27 million a year, you damn well better be able to hit AND pitch.

That doesn't happen anymore, guy.

 

That's exactly my point. I wouldn't pay ANYONE playing today that kind of money.

 

I bet you'd pay zombie Ty Cobb that kinda scratch.

 

....perhaps...Cobb's best year v. A-Rod's best year.

 

.420/.467/.620, 196 OPS+, 127rbi, 83sb >> .314/.422/.645, 177 OPS+, 156 rbi, 24 sb

 

Why do you deify this old timey racist? If bizarre to say the least.

 

I forget, how many outs do you get for saying the N word?

[OleMissCub]

 

Why do you deify this old timey racist? If bizarre to say the least.

 

You can congratulate yourself on buying hook, line, and sinker into the modern mythology of Cobb as a raving madman racist with not a single redeeming quality, most of which stems from the ridiculously absurd biography of Cobb by Al Stump and Ken Burns' baseball documentary.

 

Was he a jerk? More often than not.

Did he have a mental illness? Probably.

Was he a racist? Yes.

Anymore than most everyone else back then? More than likely not.

Did he use the N word? Yes, and so did Speaker, Hornsby, and even Abraham Lincoln.

 

Disregard the fact that he founded a hospital that serves a predominantly black community or that the first person he hired was a black surgeon or that he started a scholarship fund for needy Georgia youth which has given thousands of black students the chance to attend college. Forget that the Tigers' black groundskeeper in the 20's and 30's named his son after Ty. Forget that in 1926 he tried to get a black player into the MLB by passing him off as a "Cuban." Forget that he put Roy Campanella as his all time great catcher, or that his favorite player at the time of his death was Willie Mays.

 

I don't admire the guys character, nor do I "deify" him. He was an amazing baseball player and one of the brightest baseball minds to ever play the game. He's my favorite old school ballplayer because of how interesting he was in every facet of his life.

 

The only man I deify is Jerome Walton.

[abuck1220]

ok, i forgot all that stuff. now what?

[OleMissCub]

 

oh, not this **** again

 

Because of course baseball didn't matter until 1983.

 

we get it, you like ty cobb.

Funny, considering that nobody else liked him when he played :lol:

 

Another stupid myth propagated by Al Stump and Ken Burns.

 

http://baseballguru.com/bburgess/analysisbburgess06.html

[OleMissCub]

ok, i forgot all that stuff. now what?

 

Nothing. I don't care if you like him or not. But being a baseball history nerd and after doing my own research, I feel like he is someone who has been portrayed in modern times as something other than what he really was.

 

Try this. When he went into the stands after that fan who was insulting his wife with the most vile statements (most of his fellow Yankees fans went on record saying he deserved it), his entire team was behind him in the stands. They were protecting him while he whipped the guy. When Ty was suspended for the incident, his entire team went on strike because they felt he had a right to defend himself. It was the first player's strike in history.

[abuck1220]

your story about how he beat a fan's ass doesn't really help your crusade to boost his image.

[jersey cubs fan]

ok, i forgot all that stuff. now what?

 

Nothing. I don't care if you like him or not. But being a baseball history nerd and after doing my own research, I feel like he is someone who has been portrayed in modern times as something other than what he really was.

 

Try this. When he went into the stands after that fan who was insulting his wife with the most vile statements (most of his fellow Yankees fans went on record saying he deserved it), his entire team was behind him in the stands. They were protecting him while he whipped the guy. When Ty was suspended for the incident, his entire team went on strike because they felt he had a right to defend himself. It was the first player's strike in history.

 

That's supposed to support the idea that he wasn't a douche?

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

If someone insulted my wife with vile statments, I'd beat the crap out of him. Whats the big deal?

[OleMissCub]

ok, i forgot all that stuff. now what?

 

Nothing. I don't care if you like him or not. But being a baseball history nerd and after doing my own research, I feel like he is someone who has been portrayed in modern times as something other than what he really was.

 

Try this. When he went into the stands after that fan who was insulting his wife with the most vile statements (most of his fellow Yankees fans went on record saying he deserved it), his entire team was behind him in the stands. They were protecting him while he whipped the guy. When Ty was suspended for the incident, his entire team went on strike because they felt he had a right to defend himself. It was the first player's strike in history.

 

That's supposed to support the idea that he wasn't a douche?

 

No, but he wasn't quite the douche he was made out to be. Despite the popular myth, he never killed anyone nor did he ever claim to have killed anyone.

 

Much of his negative press came from New York and Philadelphia sportswriters who obviously had to vilify him because of what he did to their teams and their pitchers. Think about it, are you going to consider newspapers in the first decade of the 20th century to be trustworthy publications? He obviously brought a lot of it on himself because of his temper and big mouth, but a lot was put onto him as well.

 

In The Glory of their Times, Lawrence Ritter went around in the mid 1960's and interviewed deadball era baseball players that were still living. He asked all of them about Cobb and not a single one said that he played dirty or was a bad person. A good many of them said he was certainly "difficult", however.

[OleMissCub]

If someone insulted my wife with vile statments, I'd beat the crap out of him. Whats the big deal?

 

Keep in mind that he didn't attack the guy until after he had notified the police and stadium ushers, who did nothing about it. The guy was sitting behind the Tigers dugout, and Cobb had even stayed in the outfield sitting against the fence during one inning when he wasn't at bat just so he didn't have to hear the guy. He was also only 24 years old too at the time.

[Chocolate Milk]

 

Why do you deify this old timey racist? If bizarre to say the least.

Was he a jerk? More often than not.

Did he have a mental illness? Probably.

Was he a racist? Yes.

 

You sure showed me here.

[OleMissCub]

 

Why do you deify this old timey racist? If bizarre to say the least.

Was he a jerk? More often than not.

Did he have a mental illness? Probably.

Was he a racist? Yes.

 

You sure showed me here.

 

So to qualify as someone's favorite ballplayer, that person must have the personality of Lou Gehrig?