College Football - Week of 11/17

[Andy]

that brings up a good point. if more teams are playing 12 game schedules, they should increase the # of wins for bowl eligibility to 7 and reduce the # of bowls. Or, if there is a disparity with 11 and 12 game schedules, the requirement should be "a winning record"

 

 

I don't know if that's a hard and fast rule, but I think it's already generally observed. Last year KU was 6-6, and everybody knew there was almost no chance they'd go to a bowl because, while eligible, there were too many 7-5 teams out there.

Bowls must select teams with winning records before they can select a 6-6 team. I'm pretty sure that it includes 6-5 teams. If a conference doesn't have enough bowl-eligible teams for their tie-ins, then a bowl must select a team outside of the conference with a winning record before they can select a team outside of the conference with a 6-6 record.

Hence why a 7-5 Ball State team might sneak into a bowl game even if they don't get a MAC tie-in, just as Northern Illinois did last season.

[NewUserName]

Apparently the Big Ten had an officiating crew do the Ohio State/Illinois game despite a planned suspension of the crew following their work on the Purdue/Penn State game: Link

 

What happened during the Penn St/Purdue game? I havent heard anything controversial from that game.

 

Also except for the early fumble call was there any bad calls in the Illinois/OSU game.

[TruffleShuffle]

Apparently the Big Ten had an officiating crew do the Ohio State/Illinois game despite a planned suspension of the crew following their work on the Purdue/Penn State game: Link

 

What happened during the Penn St/Purdue game? I havent heard anything controversial from that game.

 

they were going to suspend them for THAT? pretty lame. The biggest issue in that game was a play where the Purdue player got out of bounds late in the 4th quarter, but the official called him in bounds, and Purdue was forced to use a timeout.

 

The officiating wasn't perfect in that game, but I've seen some Big Ten officiating in the past five years that was mind-boggling in how bad it was. The conference picks the Penn State-Purdue game as the game that merits suspension of an officiating crew? What a joke.

[SouthSideRyan]

Apparently the Big Ten had an officiating crew do the Ohio State/Illinois game despite a planned suspension of the crew following their work on the Purdue/Penn State game: Link

 

What happened during the Penn St/Purdue game? I havent heard anything controversial from that game.

 

Also except for the early fumble call was there any bad calls in the Illinois/OSU game.

 

Robiskie probably fumbled one back to us that wasn't called.

[TruffleShuffle]

hopefully

can keep his composure during the big OU-Texas Tech game.

[Derwood]

that brings up a good point. if more teams are playing 12 game schedules, they should increase the # of wins for bowl eligibility to 7 and reduce the # of bowls. Or, if there is a disparity with 11 and 12 game schedules, the requirement should be "a winning record"

 

 

I don't know if that's a hard and fast rule, but I think it's already generally observed. Last year KU was 6-6, and everybody knew there was almost no chance they'd go to a bowl because, while eligible, there were too many 7-5 teams out there.

Bowls must select teams with winning records before they can select a 6-6 team. I'm pretty sure that it includes 6-5 teams. If a conference doesn't have enough bowl-eligible teams for their tie-ins, then a bowl must select a team outside of the conference with a winning record before they can select a team outside of the conference with a 6-6 record.

Hence why a 7-5 Ball State team might sneak into a bowl game even if they don't get a MAC tie-in, just as Northern Illinois did last season.

 

LSU will play for the NC because they lost in Week 7 and OSU won't because they lost in Week 11. Reverse the schedules and there is no way LSU plays in NOLA

[CDBears1259]

LSU will play for the NC because they lost in Week 7 and OSU won't because they lost in Week 11. Reverse the schedules and there is no way LSU plays in NOLA

Are you really saying that if LSU played OSU's schedule, LSU wouldn't play in NOLA? OSU's schedule was tougher? Please tell me you're kidding? Or you trying to suggest that tOSU's schedule wouldn't be strong enough to get them there? This HAS to be what you're trying to suggest, right?

 

Surely, I've got to be misunderstanding what you're trying to say.

[CuseCubFan69]

LSU will play for the NC because they lost in Week 7 and OSU won't because they lost in Week 11. Reverse the schedules and there is no way LSU plays in NOLA

Are you really saying that if LSU played OSU's schedule, LSU wouldn't play in NOLA? OSU's schedule was tougher? Please tell me you're kidding? Or you trying to suggest that tOSU's schedule wouldn't be strong enough to get them there? This HAS to be what you're trying to suggest, right?

 

Surely, I've got to be misunderstanding what you're trying to say.

 

What I think he is saying is that the later in the season you lose, the more it hurts you.

[da bears]

Going to KState for the Mizzou game on Saturday. Looking like there's gonna be 7,000 to 10,000 Mizzou fans there, which would be awesome. Im basically on my Thanksgiving break, so they better not blow ruin it for me. Go Tigers!

 

MIZ!

[Derwood]

LSU will play for the NC because they lost in Week 7 and OSU won't because they lost in Week 11. Reverse the schedules and there is no way LSU plays in NOLA

Are you really saying that if LSU played OSU's schedule, LSU wouldn't play in NOLA? OSU's schedule was tougher? Please tell me you're kidding? Or you trying to suggest that tOSU's schedule wouldn't be strong enough to get them there? This HAS to be what you're trying to suggest, right?

 

Surely, I've got to be misunderstanding what you're trying to say.

 

i was unclear. I meant that if LSU lost in Week 11 instead of 7 that they would be out of the NC hunt right now.

[CDBears1259]

LSU will play for the NC because they lost in Week 7 and OSU won't because they lost in Week 11. Reverse the schedules and there is no way LSU plays in NOLA

Are you really saying that if LSU played OSU's schedule, LSU wouldn't play in NOLA? OSU's schedule was tougher? Please tell me you're kidding? Or you trying to suggest that tOSU's schedule wouldn't be strong enough to get them there? This HAS to be what you're trying to suggest, right?

 

Surely, I've got to be misunderstanding what you're trying to say.

 

What I think he is saying is that the later in the season you lose, the more it hurts you.

Yeah, that's what it started off sounding like, but the last line (bolded) made me question the entire thought.

[CDBears1259]

LSU will play for the NC because they lost in Week 7 and OSU won't because they lost in Week 11. Reverse the schedules and there is no way LSU plays in NOLA

Are you really saying that if LSU played OSU's schedule, LSU wouldn't play in NOLA? OSU's schedule was tougher? Please tell me you're kidding? Or you trying to suggest that tOSU's schedule wouldn't be strong enough to get them there? This HAS to be what you're trying to suggest, right?

 

Surely, I've got to be misunderstanding what you're trying to say.

 

i was unclear. I meant that if LSU lost in Week 11 instead of 7 that they would be out of the NC hunt right now.

Gotcha and I don't disagree with that. See my post above.

[Mephistopheles]

LSU will play for the NC because they lost in Week 7 and OSU won't because they lost in Week 11. Reverse the schedules and there is no way LSU plays in NOLA

 

LSU will play for the NC because they lost to Kentucky and beat Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Arkansas, Virginia Tech and won the toughest conference in the land.

 

OSU won't play for the NC because they lost a game in the weakest BCS conference that has three loses to {1AA , Duke}. I'll run the probabilities comparing the two schedules momentarily.

[Guest]

LSU will play for the NC because they lost in Week 7 and OSU won't because they lost in Week 11. Reverse the schedules and there is no way LSU plays in NOLA

 

LSU will play for the NC because they lost to Kentucky and beat Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Arkansas, Virginia Tech and won the toughest conference in the land.

 

OSU won't play for the NC because they lost a game in the weakest BCS conference that has three loses to {1AA , Duke}. I'll run the probabilities comparing the two schedules momentarily.

 

It's not a matter of which team's schedule is tougher. If OSU lost early in the year and LSU lost in the SEC Championship game, OSU would be ranked higher than LSU going into bowl season. There's no way they wouldn't.

 

EDIT: Not saying it's right but that's the way it is.

[Mephistopheles]

Tell that to 2003 USC

Tell that to 2001 Oregon

 

If LSU was undefeated going into the SEC Championship game and lost to a top ten team (either UF or UGA) they'd still be in, and rightfully so.

 

LSU had a 12.44% chance of going through its schedule unscathed (with UGA in the SEC-C)

OSU had a 18.76% chance of going through its schedule unscathed.

 

The six percent difference is about the same when looking at two losses.

 

 

LSU would have THREE victories against opponents that were better than ANY opponents that OSU faced.

[jaydee]

I really don't get what is so great about LSU. Their best win is @ a marginally above average alabama team. None of their wins have really made a statement, especially considering they barely beat a couple of overrated florida/auburn/south carolina teams at home. IMO Oregon and the big 12 champ deserve to play in the championship game since both those teams will have more quality wins over elite teams than LSU

[Guest]

I really don't get what is so great about LSU. Their best win is @ a marginally above average alabama team. None of their wins have really made a statement, especially considering they barely beat a couple of overrated florida/auburn/south carolina teams at home. IMO Oregon and the big 12 champ deserve to play in the championship game since both those teams will have more quality wins over elite teams than LSU

 

LSU is more deserving than a one-loss Big 12 team.

[TruffleShuffle]

I really don't get what is so great about LSU. Their best win is @ a marginally above average alabama team. None of their wins have really made a statement, especially considering they barely beat a couple of overrated florida/auburn/south carolina teams at home. IMO Oregon and the big 12 champ deserve to play in the championship game since both those teams will have more quality wins over elite teams than LSU

 

well you seem to be assuming that the SEC has one elite team (LSU), so it's pretty hard for LSU to have quality wins over elite teams under your criteria.

 

As for the Big XII, here are the elite wins by the top three teams...

 

OU: Mizzou

Mizzou: ....

Kansas: ....

 

Though I'm guessing your point is that the winner of the Big XII will have at least two big-time wins.

 

As for Oregon, they lost to Cal, which isn't that good as it turns out. You can't really consider Michigan an "elite win" if you're throwing out LSU's wins over the likes of Florida and Alabama. Oregon beat USC, a two loss team... LSU massacred Va Tech, another two loss team. I guess Arizona State is an elite win? I still don't believe they'd be a one-loss team if they'd played any sort of schedule.

[jaydee]

I really don't get what is so great about LSU. Their best win is @ a marginally above average alabama team. None of their wins have really made a statement, especially considering they barely beat a couple of overrated florida/auburn/south carolina teams at home. IMO Oregon and the big 12 champ deserve to play in the championship game since both those teams will have more quality wins over elite teams than LSU

 

LSU is more deserving than a one-loss Big 12 team.

 

i dont know, if oklahoma beats kansas in the big 12 title game they deserve it just as much as lsu if not more

[TruffleShuffle]

hey all right, more penn state football players in trouble!!!

 

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/262134.html

 

 

not that some players didn't do stuff wrong - baker in particular seems like an idiot, and was involved in the last big incident - but this seems pretty unlikely:

 

The victim later told police he was "strolling" through the HUB, may have brushed another man and excused himself. He said he felt tension growing, and decided to walk outside to get away from it, according to the complaint. He said 15 people -- all or many of them football players -- followed him outside and jumped him. There were four primary aggressors, he told police.

 

so like 20% of the football team decides to jump a guy who brushed against one of them, said excuse me and then walked away? i bet.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

3 guys from Iowa are being questioned about a sexual assault if it makes you feel any better

[CubinNY]

3 guys from Iowa are being questioned about a sexual assault if it makes you feel any better

A university of Memphis football player was shot and killed in his car by his ex-girlfriend's boyfriend and two others. He had @$10,000 on him at the time. Supposedly from casino winnings.

[SouthSideRyan]

I thought Pierre Pierce played basketball.

 

And was already kicked out.

 

And is probably in jail.

 

Or dead.

 

Anyways, all this talk about LSU is unnecessary, they're gonna lose another game and only West Virginia will be complaining when it's an all OU championship.

[Guest]

Dennis Dixon's leg looked like it just gave way when he tried to cut and it didn't look too good. He's limping off the field right now and Brady Leaf is into the game.

[Flames24Rulz]

"Twisted knee" for Dixon. He's done for the night, and probably the season. What a tough break for the Ducks.