College Basketball 2007-2008

[Derwood]

Penn State loses to UCF after shooting .362 and going 5 for 31 from three point range. This team is going to get annihilated in Big 10 play

 

I'm shocked by how things have started out for you guys. I thought PSU had an outside shot at a tourney berth before the season started.

 

Can you at least win your Big 10/ACC Challenge game?

 

well, penn state just got done losing to south carolina, rider and ucf, teams that were ranked (roughly) 110, 194 and 119 last year, so you can probably answer that question yourself

 

but they'll play VaTech in front of 2000 fans at the BJC!

[TruffleShuffle]

nobody cares, but tonight's holy cross game (home versus ohio) is a pretty good game between small conference teams

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Illinois will beat Maryland. The Terps have no guard depth at all. Vazquez is decent, but Hayes isn't good, and they played a combined 78 minutes against Mizzou.

[SouthSideRyan]

Vazquez destroyed us last year. Hopefully a healthy Frazier will neutralize him this year. You still follow MSU hoops TT?

 

And PSU fans, I honestly think you could beat VA Tech. I just refuse to believe Penn St. is as bad as they shown. That and VA Tech doesn't impress me. That 6th win is going to be the toughest for the Big 10. I probably wouldn't give better than 20% chances for any of those games(including the UM/BC game), but Wisconsin has a very real shot at knocking off Duke if the zebras stay out of it. The only games I'd bet large sums of money against the Big 10 are Northwestern and Ohio St.(And even UNC looked beatable against a Davidson team that's no better than OSU.) Conversely, the only Big 10 team I'd lay money down on is MSU.

 

Edit to add: The ACC is favored in 5 out of the 6 first games with only IU favored to win. This is embarrassing.

 

Go Hawkeyes!!

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I try to keep up with MSU, but it was pretty easy rooting against them last monday.

[Exile on Waveland]

Big 10/ACC Challenge begins tonight with Iowa hosting Wake.

 

Could we please just beat these bastards once in this damn thing?

 

My blueprint for a Big 10 win:

 

Iowa over Wake. Neither team is good, and Iowa has homecourt advantage.

 

IU over GA Tech. GT isn't so good, IU is, and is at home.

 

Minnesota over FSU. FSU has losses to USF and Cleveland St. on the year. Minnesota is no great shakes, but they have an actual coach now. Leonard Hamilton is also an idiot.

 

MSU over NC St. Game is at Breslin and NC State is not a top 25 team IMO. They got bailed out against Nova and lost to New Orleans.

 

Illinois over Maryland. Similar teams rank-wise. Illinois has 3 wins better than Maryland's best. One common opponent(Northeastern) in which Illinois had the slight edge.

 

Michigan over BC. BC has played nobody thus far, so will hopefully not be in midseason form yet. Game's at Ann Arbor, and I'm out of wishcasting.

 

Minnesota definitely needs to win. I expect them to be the surprise team of the Big Ten, they have better talent than people believe and Tubby is a enormous improvement. Illinois is also important, I think they get it done. I'm expecting Indiana and Michigan State to win. That would be four...

[Keener98]

Michigan State has looked horrible early on, Im not sure Id pencil them in for a win against anybody right now.

[SouthSideRyan]

These 2 teams might not win 20 games combined this year. They're brutal.

[Flames24Rulz]

Iowa looks absolutely terrible this year.

[Andy]

ND pounds Colgate. Yawn. Nothing really matters until Kansas State a week from tomorrow. That pretty much determines whether the Irish will need to completely own the Big East to have a chance of making the tournament.

[hawkeyecub]

That first half was some of the worst basketball I've seen in a long time. They didn't look good against Bradley in South Padre but it was better than tonight especially considering Bradley is better than Wake and we were home tonight. Second half was decent and if they had hit their free throws it would have been close.

 

At least there is some hope for the future with the young guys though. Cole is an absolute beast. A lot like Brunner but he's better as a freshman. They need practice time, they need to get Peterson's hand fixed and they need to get Freeman back. Oh and they need to get shooters and ballhandlers to run Lick's offense.

 

They have played better defense than I expected though and they were good tonight. You can't complain about giving up 56 points in a 69 possession game. Scoring 47 is a problem.

[chuckywang]

And what do you know. The ACC has the lead in the ACC/Big 10 challenge.

[Guest]

Ben Howland gets his first 2010 recruit in PG Kendall Williams from Rancho Cucamonga (same city as Darren Collison, different HS). Would be nice to actually get a 2009 recruit, though. Esp a big.

[CuseCubFan69]

Ben Howland gets his first 2010 recruit in PG Kendall Williams from Rancho Cucamonga (same city as Darren Collison, different HS). Would be nice to actually get a 2009 recruit, though. Esp a big.

 

I heard he lead his 4th grade team in scoring last year.

[SouthSideRyan]

Ben Howland gets his first 2010 recruit in PG Kendall Williams from Rancho Cucamonga (same city as Darren Collison, different HS). Would be nice to actually get a 2009 recruit, though. Esp a big.

 

I heard he lead his 4th grade team in scoring last year.

 

2010 isn't that far off, he's a sophomore right now. Illinois got Jereme Richmond to committ barely into his freshman year.

[CuseCubFan69]

Ben Howland gets his first 2010 recruit in PG Kendall Williams from Rancho Cucamonga (same city as Darren Collison, different HS). Would be nice to actually get a 2009 recruit, though. Esp a big.

 

I heard he lead his 4th grade team in scoring last year.

 

2010 isn't that far off, he's a sophomore right now. Illinois got Jereme Richmond to committ barely into his freshman year.

 

I was just kidding around. The thought of 2010 being right around the corner is a little shocking in a way.

[soapy]

i'm going down to the IU v. GT game tonight. i hope IU sucks less than they did Saturday. i'd also love to see the rest of the big ten teams show up big.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm conflicted, I'd like IU to lose every game they ever play for the rest of their lives...but I'd also like to stop being embarrassed by those Fs to the east.

[CuseCubFan69]

I'm conflicted, I'd like IU to lose every game they ever play for the rest of their lives...but I'd also like to stop being embarrassed by those Fs to the east.

 

Come on now, we beat them and they cried and quit, you can do the same.

 

I read that the BE is going to have the same type of thing with the SEC.

[Exile on Waveland]

I'm conflicted, I'd like IU to lose every game they ever play for the rest of their lives...but I'd also like to stop being embarrassed by those Fs to the east.

 

I think IU wins, but I expect them to get brutalized on the boards -- and that's without Dickey playing. I even root for Purdue in the ACC-Big Ten Challenge. Take one for the league and root for the Hoosiers.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm conflicted, I'd like IU to lose every game they ever play for the rest of their lives...but I'd also like to stop being embarrassed by those Fs to the east.

 

I think IU wins, but I expect them to get brutalized on the boards -- and that's without Dickey playing. I even root for Purdue in the ACC-Big Ten Challenge. Take one for the league and root for the Hoosiers.

 

Oh I definitely will root for Indiana. I guess I can say it'll help our RPI too.

[Exile on Waveland]

I'm conflicted, I'd like IU to lose every game they ever play for the rest of their lives...but I'd also like to stop being embarrassed by those Fs to the east.

 

I think IU wins, but I expect them to get brutalized on the boards -- and that's without Dickey playing. I even root for Purdue in the ACC-Big Ten Challenge. Take one for the league and root for the Hoosiers.

 

Oh I definitely will root for Indiana. I guess I can say it'll help our RPI too.

 

We're going to need all the wins we can get. I doubt it's more than four.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm conflicted, I'd like IU to lose every game they ever play for the rest of their lives...but I'd also like to stop being embarrassed by those Fs to the east.

 

I think IU wins, but I expect them to get brutalized on the boards -- and that's without Dickey playing. I even root for Purdue in the ACC-Big Ten Challenge. Take one for the league and root for the Hoosiers.

 

Oh I definitely will root for Indiana. I guess I can say it'll help our RPI too.

 

We're going to need all the wins we can get. I doubt it's more than four.

 

Well we're dogs in 4 out of 5 games today. MSU is probably the only favorite tomorrow(maybe Illinois, but I doubt it) Smart money takes the under on 4. I'd be Cam Cameron NFL coach shocked if the Big 10 won it.

 

The best I can hope for now is that the last game decides it so there's at least some drama. It'll be fun for Penn St. to be the one that lets us all down.

Edited November 27, 2007 by SouthSideRyan

[Exile on Waveland]

I'm conflicted, I'd like IU to lose every game they ever play for the rest of their lives...but I'd also like to stop being embarrassed by those Fs to the east.

 

I think IU wins, but I expect them to get brutalized on the boards -- and that's without Dickey playing. I even root for Purdue in the ACC-Big Ten Challenge. Take one for the league and root for the Hoosiers.

 

Oh I definitely will root for Indiana. I guess I can say it'll help our RPI too.

 

We're going to need all the wins we can get. I doubt it's more than four.

 

Well we're dogs in 4 out of 5 games today. MSU is probably the only favorite tomorrow(maybe Illinois, but I doubt it) Smart money takes the under on 4. I'd be Cam Cameron NFL coach shocked if the Big 10 won it.

 

Ha ha, me too. I think MSU and IU win. I also lean towards Minnesota and Illinois winning. After that...well, Wisconsin has a chance if it's a five-on-five game.

[Andy]

I'm conflicted, I'd like IU to lose every game they ever play for the rest of their lives...but I'd also like to stop being embarrassed by those Fs to the east.

 

Come on now, we beat them and they cried and quit, you can do the same.

 

I read that the BE is going to have the same type of thing with the SEC.

I heard it was going to be the Big 12, but I'd rather you be right.