College Basketball 2007-2008

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Tate was one of the very few reasons I did not vomit all over myself during that Michigan State game. A well-deserved honor after a terrific week.

 

that or you hadn't had enough to drink yet

good call, I didn't start drinking until after that game for some odd reason

[badgercub]

Keener, you look at the whole situation as Sampson is a cheater, liar, scum, etc., which I agree is mostly likely the case. And I can't speak for any of the IU players, but I can bet they feel like, "hey, it's just phone calls". The fact that the NCAA has called these "major" violations is a joke. It's still just a handful of phonecalls, that Sampson may or may not have had 100% knowledge of wrongdoing. I'm sure you'll take exception to the last couple sentences, but the only reason these violations are newsworthy is because of prior violations by Sampson. As far as the IU players are concerned, I bet they think he could have done a lot worse. No current Hoosiers are in danger of being ineligible. This season and the talent on the team is not tainted. Bottom line is you aren't gonna tell a team that has spent so much time with Sampson and came to IU because of his presence (other than DJ White, who stayed because of Sampson) that he is a bad person because of the current allegations.

 

I can pretty much guarantee every player is thinking that. A lot were probably promised all kinds of things during recruitment, so phone calls don't register. I didn't want Sampson hired because of those phone calls, and I wanted him dismissed because of the same. But, again, it was phone calls. Not paying players, not academic fraud, not point shaving. Phone calls. Sampson deserved his fate, but the players have every right to be frustrated by the situation.

 

It wasn't "just phone calls" though. Sampson was already sanctioned for the same offense once, and if he would have come clean it probably wouldn't have been so bad. It is the Lying to the NCAA and Indiana that has gotten him in the most trouble.

[Exile on Waveland]

Keener, you look at the whole situation as Sampson is a cheater, liar, scum, etc., which I agree is mostly likely the case. And I can't speak for any of the IU players, but I can bet they feel like, "hey, it's just phone calls". The fact that the NCAA has called these "major" violations is a joke. It's still just a handful of phonecalls, that Sampson may or may not have had 100% knowledge of wrongdoing. I'm sure you'll take exception to the last couple sentences, but the only reason these violations are newsworthy is because of prior violations by Sampson. As far as the IU players are concerned, I bet they think he could have done a lot worse. No current Hoosiers are in danger of being ineligible. This season and the talent on the team is not tainted. Bottom line is you aren't gonna tell a team that has spent so much time with Sampson and came to IU because of his presence (other than DJ White, who stayed because of Sampson) that he is a bad person because of the current allegations.

 

I can pretty much guarantee every player is thinking that. A lot were probably promised all kinds of things during recruitment, so phone calls don't register. I didn't want Sampson hired because of those phone calls, and I wanted him dismissed because of the same. But, again, it was phone calls. Not paying players, not academic fraud, not point shaving. Phone calls. Sampson deserved his fate, but the players have every right to be frustrated by the situation.

 

It wasn't "just phone calls" though. Sampson was already sanctioned for the same offense once, and if he would have come clean it probably wouldn't have been so bad. It is the Lying to the NCAA and Indiana that has gotten him in the most trouble.

 

On that, I pretty much guarantee the players, en masse, believe Sampson. He says he didn't lie to the NCAA. I don't believe it, you don't believe it. I'm certain his players do, however.

[Flames24Rulz]

Lunardi now has us as part of his "Next Four Out" and several other sites have us right outside the tournament right now. If we can win at Bradley tomorrow and against Illinois State on Saturday, combined with at least two wins in the MVC tournament, we still might be able to get an at-large berth. That would put us at 20-13 with a SOS in the top 10 and an RPI that would probably be in the top 30 by Selection Sunday.

 

Sure wish we had some of those tough losses back right about now..

[Guest]

Link to the bracketology that Flames was mentioning: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

 

Tennessee, Memphis, UNC and Texas are the #1s. Duke, UCLA, KU and Xavier as #2s (Texas and UCLA are out West).

 

Pac-10 with 6 schools - UCLA (2), Stanford (3), WSU (7 - gah?), Arizona (7 - gah?), USC (8), ASU (12).

[CuseCubFan69]

Is UAB in because of winning a conference? With a SOS of 127, RPI of 49 and a 19-8 record, I don't get why they are in otherwise.

[Exile on Waveland]

Is UAB in because of winning a conference? With a SOS of 127, RPI of 49 and a 19-8 record, I don't get why they are in otherwise.

 

They're in CUSA with Memphis. So, no, they're an at-large. Not seeing that at all. I might be really biased here though.

[bukie]

Maybe I'll have to do the mock selection committee thing again. It's not for another 2 weeks, though, right?

 

I sadly admit I haven't been following college basketball as closely this year with the record setting effort the Illini are putting forth this year being most halftime leads blown.

[Guest]

Maybe I'll have to do the mock selection committee thing again. It's not for another 2 weeks, though, right?

 

I sadly admit I haven't been following college basketball as closely this year with the record setting effort the Illini are putting forth this year being most halftime leads blown.

 

Selection Sunday is March 16th.

[bukie]

Maybe I'll have to do the mock selection committee thing again. It's not for another 2 weeks, though, right?

 

I sadly admit I haven't been following college basketball as closely this year with the record setting effort the Illini are putting forth this year being most halftime leads blown.

 

Selection Sunday is March 16th.

 

Seems really late, but makes sense since they extended the season by 2 games.

 

The mock committee did really well last year, nailing 64 of the 65 teams.

[Derwood]

Maybe I'll have to do the mock selection committee thing again. It's not for another 2 weeks, though, right?

 

I sadly admit I haven't been following college basketball as closely this year with the record setting effort the Illini are putting forth this year being most halftime leads blown.

 

Selection Sunday is March 16th.

 

huh, i was almost positive that was the first weekend of the tourney. maybe i misread that that was the weekend of the CONFERENCE tourneys

[shnsajax]

Link to the bracketology that Flames was mentioning: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

 

Tennessee, Memphis, UNC and Texas are the #1s. Duke, UCLA, KU and Xavier as #2s (Texas and UCLA are out West).

 

Pac-10 with 6 schools - UCLA (2), Stanford (3), WSU (7 - gah?), Arizona (7 - gah?), USC (8), ASU (12).

 

I think Texas has to win out all the way to the finals of the Big 12 tourney to lock a #1 seed. While that is very possible I think it is more likely they will finish with a #2 seed. Plus I don't want to play UCLA again ;-).

[Guest]

Maybe I'll have to do the mock selection committee thing again. It's not for another 2 weeks, though, right?

 

I sadly admit I haven't been following college basketball as closely this year with the record setting effort the Illini are putting forth this year being most halftime leads blown.

 

Selection Sunday is March 16th.

 

huh, i was almost positive that was the first weekend of the tourney. maybe i misread that that was the weekend of the CONFERENCE tourneys

 

It's a week later this year, it was the first weekend of the tourney the previous two seasons.

[Guest]

Link to the bracketology that Flames was mentioning: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

 

Tennessee, Memphis, UNC and Texas are the #1s. Duke, UCLA, KU and Xavier as #2s (Texas and UCLA are out West).

 

Pac-10 with 6 schools - UCLA (2), Stanford (3), WSU (7 - gah?), Arizona (7 - gah?), USC (8), ASU (12).

 

I think Texas has to win out all the way to the finals of the Big 12 tourney to lock a #1 seed. While that is very possible I think it is more likely they will finish with a #2 seed. Plus I don't want to play UCLA again ;-).

 

With a healthy DC this time. :)

[snoodmonger]

Link to the bracketology that Flames was mentioning: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

 

Tennessee, Memphis, UNC and Texas are the #1s. Duke, UCLA, KU and Xavier as #2s (Texas and UCLA are out West).

 

Pac-10 with 6 schools - UCLA (2), Stanford (3), WSU (7 - gah?), Arizona (7 - gah?), USC (8), ASU (12).

I think Texas has to win out all the way to the finals of the Big 12 tourney to lock a #1 seed. While that is very possible I think it is more likely they will finish with a #2 seed. Plus I don't want to play UCLA again ;-).

 

 

I agree. Really, the KSU game and the conf tourney semis are the only possible tripping points, though. UT's resume is pretty good.

[Exile on Waveland]

Link to the bracketology that Flames was mentioning: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

 

Tennessee, Memphis, UNC and Texas are the #1s. Duke, UCLA, KU and Xavier as #2s (Texas and UCLA are out West).

 

Pac-10 with 6 schools - UCLA (2), Stanford (3), WSU (7 - gah?), Arizona (7 - gah?), USC (8), ASU (12).

I think Texas has to win out all the way to the finals of the Big 12 tourney to lock a #1 seed. While that is very possible I think it is more likely they will finish with a #2 seed. Plus I don't want to play UCLA again ;-).

 

 

I agree. Really, the KSU game and the conf tourney semis are the only possible tripping points, though. UT's resume is pretty good.

 

UT's resume is very good. They have wins over Tennessee, UCLA and Kansas. Off the top of my head, no one can match that. The computers like them, as they should, and they're leading the Big 12. I do, however, think that Texas is a better team on paper than on the court.

[Keener98]

Lunardi now has us as part of his "Next Four Out" and several other sites have us right outside the tournament right now. If we can win at Bradley tomorrow and against Illinois State on Saturday, combined with at least two wins in the MVC tournament, we still might be able to get an at-large berth. That would put us at 20-13 with a SOS in the top 10 and an RPI that would probably be in the top 30 by Selection Sunday.

 

Sure wish we had some of those tough losses back right about now..

 

 

You guys should have no problem with Bradley since Ruffin is fresh out of jail on bail, and not playing.

[rawaction]

Link to the bracketology that Flames was mentioning: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

 

Tennessee, Memphis, UNC and Texas are the #1s. Duke, UCLA, KU and Xavier as #2s (Texas and UCLA are out West).

 

Pac-10 with 6 schools - UCLA (2), Stanford (3), WSU (7 - gah?), Arizona (7 - gah?), USC (8), ASU (12).

 

Yes! Committee seed the teams exactly like that and I'll be cool. IU in the Midwest, though they would have to play in Denver before they got to Detroit. UNCs the 3rd best #1. Xavier, though they beat IU, is the worst #2 by far as the other 3 will be competing for a 1-seed the rest of the way. Louisville is the worst 3. Drake is a mid-major #5. Butler a mid-major #6. While both would be tough, 'd rather face a Cinderella over a true contender. And I think Arizona is the worst 7 seed.

[Flames24Rulz]

Lunardi now has us as part of his "Next Four Out" and several other sites have us right outside the tournament right now. If we can win at Bradley tomorrow and against Illinois State on Saturday, combined with at least two wins in the MVC tournament, we still might be able to get an at-large berth. That would put us at 20-13 with a SOS in the top 10 and an RPI that would probably be in the top 30 by Selection Sunday.

 

Sure wish we had some of those tough losses back right about now..

 

 

You guys should have no problem with Bradley since Ruffin is fresh out of jail on bail, and not playing.

 

Yeah, we dismantled them with ease at home earlier this year when Ruffin was hurt. Problem is, road games have been a huge struggle for us this year, so I'm reluctant to call anything easy.

 

If he's not suspended for the rest of the year, Jim Les needs to be fired on the spot.

[rawaction]

Lunardi now has us as part of his "Next Four Out" and several other sites have us right outside the tournament right now. If we can win at Bradley tomorrow and against Illinois State on Saturday, combined with at least two wins in the MVC tournament, we still might be able to get an at-large berth. That would put us at 20-13 with a SOS in the top 10 and an RPI that would probably be in the top 30 by Selection Sunday.

 

Sure wish we had some of those tough losses back right about now..

 

You guys should have no problem with Bradley since Ruffin is fresh out of jail on bail, and not playing.

 

Yeah, we dismantled them with ease at home earlier this year when Ruffin was hurt. Problem is, road games have been a huge struggle for us this year, so I'm reluctant to call anything easy.

 

If he's not suspended for the rest of the year, Jim Les needs to be fired on the spot.

 

You'll win the automatic bid from the conference anyway. I see SIU winning the tourney if they keep playing the way they are now.

[Keener98]

Lunardi now has us as part of his "Next Four Out" and several other sites have us right outside the tournament right now. If we can win at Bradley tomorrow and against Illinois State on Saturday, combined with at least two wins in the MVC tournament, we still might be able to get an at-large berth. That would put us at 20-13 with a SOS in the top 10 and an RPI that would probably be in the top 30 by Selection Sunday.

 

Sure wish we had some of those tough losses back right about now..

 

 

You guys should have no problem with Bradley since Ruffin is fresh out of jail on bail, and not playing.

 

Yeah, we dismantled them with ease at home earlier this year when Ruffin was hurt. Problem is, road games have been a huge struggle for us this year, so I'm reluctant to call anything easy.

 

If he's not suspended for the rest of the year, Jim Les needs to be fired on the spot.

 

Believe me. if hes not Peoria may explode.

[hawkeyecub]

Jim Les is slime.

[illiniguy]

Link to the bracketology that Flames was mentioning: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

 

Tennessee, Memphis, UNC and Texas are the #1s. Duke, UCLA, KU and Xavier as #2s (Texas and UCLA are out West).

 

Pac-10 with 6 schools - UCLA (2), Stanford (3), WSU (7 - gah?), Arizona (7 - gah?), USC (8), ASU (12).

I think Texas has to win out all the way to the finals of the Big 12 tourney to lock a #1 seed. While that is very possible I think it is more likely they will finish with a #2 seed. Plus I don't want to play UCLA again ;-).

 

 

 

I agree. Really, the KSU game and the conf tourney semis are the only possible tripping points, though. UT's resume is pretty good.

 

UT's resume is very good. They have wins over Tennessee, UCLA and Kansas. Off the top of my head, no one can match that. The computers like them, as they should, and they're leading the Big 12. I do, however, think that Texas is a better team on paper than on the court.

Texas has only struggled with the Big Ten this year.

[radarluv1]

i'm sorry i mocked whoever said beasley would have a durant-like season. i just didnt expect another freshman year like that.

[Keener98]

Jim Les is slime.

 

 

I think the Hawkeyes have their own legal problems to be worrying about.