College Basketball 2007-2008

[Transmogrified Tiger]

lol mizzou loses

 

Rough night for Berardini. One of 8 guys on the active roster and he still doesn't play.

[Andy]

Harangody was named midseason Top 30 candidate for the Wooden and Naismith Awards this week. Good to see him get the pub he deserves. Can't wait to see him and the Irish take on Providence tomorrow.

[Guest]

a lot of strawmen and inaccuracies.

 

Talk about a concise summary.

[Hosak8]

a lot of strawmen and inaccuracies.

 

Talk about a concise summary.

 

Not to mention wrong.

[snoodmonger]

ugh, didn't get to see much of it, but it looked like we were getting flat outplayed and out hustled from what little I did see. If I can stomach it, I might watch the replay, but I probably won't. THey earned it. H

[illiniguy]

I actually watched all of the KU and Kstate game. That is once I turned to the Illinois game and saw Frazier was starting over McCamey again. Weber is such a joke.

[fromthestretch]

I truly believe the Purdue fan-base and (in particular) their radio announcers are the whiniest fans in the Big Ten.

 

Don't lump the fans in with Larry Clisby and the rest of the awful radio crew. But hey, it's nice to know that I'm whiny.

 

Regarding "defense" in the Big Ten, I've long believed that one of the reasons that BIg Ten (and Big East) teams often struggle in the NCAA tournament is that the league allows significantly more physical play.

 

Purdue had a few games earlier this year where every little thing was being called against both teams. However, I will agree that they have let a lot of things slide the past 5-6 games. Last weekend against Wisconsin, there was a very obvious incident that should have been called a foul and nothing was called. It really wouldn't have mattered if they called it a block or a charge (although it should have been a charge against Purdue), but something should have been called considering how hard the contact was.

 

I'm not a big fan of conference referees -- the refs should all be NCAA refs and moved around within their regions to all the conferences. I understand that a lot of these guys have other jobs, but a more professional referee corps would be good for all the conferences and for the NCAA.

 

Agreed.

 

Caveat: I'm an IU-guy. Have been my whole life. My parents went there. I went to school there. I met my wife there. I love IU. That said, I try to be reasonable in my view of other teams, particularly in the Big Ten. Obviously, I love my Hoosiers. (One season after attending the Final Four/National Championship in Atlanta, I began a boycott of IU basketball due to the ineptitude of Mike Davis. I just decided to not waste my time b/c it was too frustrating.) But outside the conference schedule, I root for all BIg Ten teams. Even Purdue.

 

Well, that explains the "whiniest fans in the Big Ten" comment. :lol:

 

I actually have a lot of friends that are/were IU fans. A lot of them also boycotted IU basketball, but their boycott started the exact moment Knight was replaced.

[illiniguy]

I truly believe the Purdue fan-base and (in particular) their radio announcers are the whiniest fans in the Big Ten.

 

Don't lump the fans in with Larry Clisby and the rest of the awful radio crew. But hey, it's nice to know that I'm whiny.

 

Regarding "defense" in the Big Ten, I've long believed that one of the reasons that BIg Ten (and Big East) teams often struggle in the NCAA tournament is that the league allows significantly more physical play.

 

Purdue had a few games earlier this year where every little thing was being called against both teams. However, I will agree that they have let a lot of things slide the past 5-6 games. Last weekend against Wisconsin, there was a very obvious incident that should have been called a foul and nothing was called. It really wouldn't have mattered if they called it a block or a charge (although it should have been a charge against Purdue), but something should have been called considering how hard the contact was.

 

I'm not a big fan of conference referees -- the refs should all be NCAA refs and moved around within their regions to all the conferences. I understand that a lot of these guys have other jobs, but a more professional referee corps would be good for all the conferences and for the NCAA.

 

Agreed.

 

Caveat: I'm an IU-guy. Have been my whole life. My parents went there. I went to school there. I met my wife there. I love IU. That said, I try to be reasonable in my view of other teams, particularly in the Big Ten. Obviously, I love my Hoosiers. (One season after attending the Final Four/National Championship in Atlanta, I began a boycott of IU basketball due to the ineptitude of Mike Davis. I just decided to not waste my time b/c it was too frustrating.) But outside the conference schedule, I root for all BIg Ten teams. Even Purdue.

 

Well, that explains the "whiniest fans in the Big Ten" comment. :lol:

 

I actually have a lot of friends that are/were IU fans. A lot of them also boycotted IU basketball, but their boycott started the exact moment Knight was replaced.

Purdue is a darn good team that is only going to get better in a few years. I don't find them or their fans at all whiny.

[fromthestretch]

Purdue is a darn good team that is only going to get better in a few years. I don't find them or their fans at all whiny.

 

I'm really looking forward to two years from now when Moore, Hummel, Martin, and Johnson are juniors. Grant will be a senior that year, so Purdue could have a very strong and experienced starting five. I've said it before though, Johnson has got to put on some weight. One of these days he's just going to disappear through a crack in the floorboards.

[hawkeyecub]

CubColtPacer you're right on with a lot of that. Some of the low point totals are a result of the slow pace, but this group of Big Ten coaches does put a major emphasis on defense.

 

I just wish the officials would let it be known that they aren't going to tolerate that level of physicality. It doesn't help the league. You can play tough defense without all of the contact.

[illiniguy]

Purdue is a darn good team that is only going to get better in a few years. I don't find them or their fans at all whiny.

 

I'm really looking forward to two years from now when Moore, Hummel, Martin, and Johnson are juniors. Grant will be a senior that year, so Purdue could have a very strong and experienced starting five. I've said it before though, Johnson has got to put on some weight. One of these days he's just going to disappear through a crack in the floorboards.

How is your recruiting the next couple of years? Also don't sell Chris Kramer short, the kid can play.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I watched Iowa/UConn from the Great Alaska Shootout in November 1995 last night on the Big Ten's greatest games on demand. Wow, that was fun -- I'm going to start downloading more games. Damn, that Iowa team had some talent.

[fromthestretch]

Purdue is a darn good team that is only going to get better in a few years. I don't find them or their fans at all whiny.

 

I'm really looking forward to two years from now when Moore, Hummel, Martin, and Johnson are juniors. Grant will be a senior that year, so Purdue could have a very strong and experienced starting five. I've said it before though, Johnson has got to put on some weight. One of these days he's just going to disappear through a crack in the floorboards.

How is your recruiting the next couple of years? Also don't sell Chris Kramer short, the kid can play.

 

The two guys they have lined up for next season are Lewis Jackson (a 5'9 PG) and Ryne Smith (a 6'3 SG). Jackson appears to be solid, while there doesn't appear to be much hype surrounding Smith. I haven't followed recruiting beyond next season, although it would be nice if they targeted another post player (ideally a center).

 

The thing is, they only lose one guy after this year, and that's Terrance Crump. They lose four more after next season, and only two of those - Calasan and Green - are guys that play a decent amount.

 

Kramer's a solid player. The kid kind of annoys me though. That's probably due to the fact that he loves to drive the lane and draw fouls, but he can't hit free throws.

[illiniguy]

I watched Iowa/UConn from the Great Alaska Shootout in November 1995 last night on the Big Ten's greatest games on demand. Wow, that was fun -- I'm going to start downloading more games. Damn, that Iowa team had some talent.

Ryan Bowen rules

[illiniguy]

Purdue is a darn good team that is only going to get better in a few years. I don't find them or their fans at all whiny.

 

I'm really looking forward to two years from now when Moore, Hummel, Martin, and Johnson are juniors. Grant will be a senior that year, so Purdue could have a very strong and experienced starting five. I've said it before though, Johnson has got to put on some weight. One of these days he's just going to disappear through a crack in the floorboards.

How is your recruiting the next couple of years? Also don't sell Chris Kramer short, the kid can play.

 

The two guys they have lined up for next season are Lewis Jackson (a 5'9 PG) and Ryne Smith (a 6'3 SG). Jackson appears to be solid, while there doesn't appear to be much hype surrounding Smith. I haven't followed recruiting beyond next season, although it would be nice if they targeted another post player (ideally a center).

 

The thing is, they only lose one guy after this year, and that's Terrance Crump. They lose four more after next season, and only two of those - Calasan and Green - are guys that play a decent amount.

 

Kramer's a solid player. The kid kind of annoys me though. That's probably due to the fact that he loves to drive the lane and draw fouls, but he can't hit free throws.

I know all about Lewis Jackosn, forgot you guys got him. I think he will be a very good player for you. Bruce didn't want him. I guess he didn't want another better guard to have to bench in favor of Chester Frazier. I wonder how DMac and Legion will like sitting behind Chester next year?

 

I like the fact that Kramer is an in your face defender though.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I watched Iowa/UConn from the Great Alaska Shootout in November 1995 last night on the Big Ten's greatest games on demand. Wow, that was fun -- I'm going to start downloading more games. Damn, that Iowa team had some talent.

Ryan Bowen rules

It was funny that of all the guys on the court for both teams, he was about the least likely to play in the NBA, and I think only Ray Allen has him beat.

[fromthestretch]

I like the fact that Kramer is an in your face defender though.

 

He is tenacious on defense. He also has teeth that would make Gary Busey jealous.

[illiniguy]

I watched Iowa/UConn from the Great Alaska Shootout in November 1995 last night on the Big Ten's greatest games on demand. Wow, that was fun -- I'm going to start downloading more games. Damn, that Iowa team had some talent.

Ryan Bowen rules

It was funny that of all the guys on the court for both teams, he was about the least likely to play in the NBA, and I think only Ray Allen has him beat.

I went to high school with him. I was a frosh when he was a senior. He wouldn't even had been offered at Iowa if Raef LaFrentz hadn't chosen the Jayhawks. He probably would have went to Arizona. At least that was the buzz at the school. Even though he always wanted to be a Hawkeye.

[illiniguy]

I like the fact that Kramer is an in your face defender though.

 

He is tenacious on defense. He also has teeth that would make Gary Busey jealous.

I really think that E'Twaun Moore will be the type of kid who has a good frosh year then will explode by at least his junior year. That kid is oozing talent.

[Keener98]

Call me nuts, but Im predicting the Illini upset Michigan State tonight.

Dumbass. Same old Illinois basketball. Cant make free throws and cant make a jumpshot. When your leading scorer has only 7-8 points that says it all. Just pathetic.

[fromthestretch]

I like the fact that Kramer is an in your face defender though.

 

He is tenacious on defense. He also has teeth that would make Gary Busey jealous.

I really think that E'Twaun Moore will be the type of kid who has a good frosh year then will explode by at least his junior year. That kid is oozing talent.

 

I've been more and more impressed with both Moore and Hummel as the season has gone by. There's no question that Moore is an incredible shooter. I was really high on Martin early in the year, but he's been very inconsistent and can't seem to stay out of foul trouble.

[illiniguy]

Call me nuts, but Im predicting the Illini upset Michigan State tonight.

Dumbass. Same old Illinois basketball. Cant make free throws and cant make a jumpshot. When your leading scorer has only 7-8 points that says it all. Just pathetic.

Same old Bruce Weber basketball. We have never been this bad before. Even the probation years were better than this. Our 98 team at least had Cory Bradford and Sergio McClain.

[illiniguy]

I like the fact that Kramer is an in your face defender though.

 

He is tenacious on defense. He also has teeth that would make Gary Busey jealous.

I really think that E'Twaun Moore will be the type of kid who has a good frosh year then will explode by at least his junior year. That kid is oozing talent.

 

I've been more and more impressed with both Moore and Hummel as the season has gone by. There's no question that Moore is an incredible shooter. I was really high on Martin early in the year, but he's been very inconsistent and can't seem to stay out of foul trouble.

A freshman in the big ten is going to be in foul trouble if they get to play. our refs are easily the worst in america.

[Keener98]

Call me nuts, but Im predicting the Illini upset Michigan State tonight.

Dumbass. Same old Illinois basketball. Cant make free throws and cant make a jumpshot. When your leading scorer has only 7-8 points that says it all. Just pathetic.

Same old Bruce Weber basketball. We have never been this bad before. Even the probation years were better than this. Our 98 team at least had Cory Bradford and Sergio McClain.

IG, you hear Griffey verballed to Weber yesterday? Supposdely was in the Champaign paper yesterday. IF true, the future cannot get here fast enough.

 

Heres the link

http://www.news-gazette.com/blogs/basketblog/2008/01/31/griffey_to_illinois

[illiniguy]

Call me nuts, but Im predicting the Illini upset Michigan State tonight.

Dumbass. Same old Illinois basketball. Cant make free throws and cant make a jumpshot. When your leading scorer has only 7-8 points that says it all. Just pathetic.

Same old Bruce Weber basketball. We have never been this bad before. Even the probation years were better than this. Our 98 team at least had Cory Bradford and Sergio McClain.

IG, you hear Griffey verballed to Weber yesterday? Supposdely was in the Champaign paper yesterday. IF true, the future cannot get here fast enough.

 

Heres the link

http://www.news-gazette.com/blogs/basketblog/2008/01/31/griffey_to_illinois

I saw it. I am ready for signing day. Let's get these guys signed. Or lets get them in AP classes, lots of AP classes.