College Football - Week of 10/13

[Magnetic Curses]

This might be Iowa's season and if they can hit the Illini hard and make them doubt themselves they might get the upper hand in this one.

 

I dont think they can get the Illini doubting themselves after the last 2 weeks. The key for Iowa,and any team facing the Illini, is can they stop the run? If they can stop the run, then they force Juice into throwing which isnt pretty. But stopping the Illini's run game is alot easier said than done. Mendenhall is a stud, Juice is a stud when running, and their offensive line is terrific.

 

I expect the 1st half to be close, and then the Illini to come out in the 2nd half and put it to the Hawkeyes.

 

But making them sore and thinking about getting hit might do the trick. Doubt themselves wasn't the word I was looking for, apprehensive or tentative.

 

wisconsin came into yesterday's game knowing exactly what the illini would try to do, and they could do nothing about it. the illini don't rely on tricks or trick plays, they don't rely on long passes that hit infrequently, they don't even rely on a great defense. they rely on shoving the ball down the throat of the defense, and, in wiconsin's case, attacking it's strength.

 

the illini have probably been made to feel sore enough, but what they thrive on is eating the opposing d-line's dinner.

 

iowa's going to have to play strong at the point of attack throughout the game. and generally, team's start to wear down in the final quarter or two against a road-grading offensive line.

 

This over confidence is what I'm counting on.

 

YOU are counting on? why the hate?

 

Hate....no. I just think they will have a tough game on Saturday and when you made that post I thought "that's what I was looking to say".

 

how is it overconfidence by stating the facts? as has been pointed out, i never said the illini would beat iowa, just what iowa would have to do to beat the illini.

 

a lot of teams have beaten syracuse this year, go root against THEM. :P

[CuseCubFan69]

I dont think they can get the Illini doubting themselves after the last 2 weeks. The key for Iowa,and any team facing the Illini, is can they stop the run? If they can stop the run, then they force Juice into throwing w

I expect the 1st half to be close, and then the Illini to come out in the 2nd wisconsin came into yesterday's game knowing exactly what the illini would try to do, and they could do nothing about it. the illini don't rely on tricks or trick plays, they don't rely on long passes that hit infrequently, they don't even rely on a great defense. they rely on shoving the ball down the throat of the defense, and, in wiconsin's case, attacking it's strength.

 

the illini have probably been made to feel sore enough, but what they thow is it overconfidence by stating the facts? as has been pointed out, i never said the illini would beat iowa, just what iowa would have to do to beat the illini.

 

a lot of teams have beaten syracuse this year, go root against THEM. :P

 

I'm not rooting for or against either sully. I think that this game is a perfect opportunity for Iowa to win, if they aren't already mailing in the season. It could just as easily be a 37-10 Illinois win. I didn't see the Wisconsin guys complain before when I wrote that Illinois could beat their team.

[Keener98]

I dont think they can get the Illini doubting themselves after the last 2 weeks. The key for Iowa,and any team facing the Illini, is can they stop the run? If they can stop the run, then they force Juice into throwing w

I expect the 1st half to be close, and then the Illini to come out in the 2nd wisconsin came into yesterday's game knowing exactly what the illini would try to do, and they could do nothing about it. the illini don't rely on tricks or trick plays, they don't rely on long passes that hit infrequently, they don't even rely on a great defense. they rely on shoving the ball down the throat of the defense, and, in wiconsin's case, attacking it's strength.

 

the illini have probably been made to feel sore enough, but what they thow is it overconfidence by stating the facts? as has been pointed out, i never said the illini would beat iowa, just what iowa would have to do to beat the illini.

 

a lot of teams have beaten syracuse this year, go root against THEM. :P

 

I'm not rooting for or against either sully. I think that this game is a perfect opportunity for Iowa to win, if they aren't already mailing in the season. It could just as easily be a 37-10 Illinois win. I didn't see the Wisconsin guys complain before when I wrote that Illinois could beat their team.

 

You still arent answering how Sully was being over confident in his post. He laid it out how Iowa would have to play to beat the Illini this week, and then you come in saying "thats the over confidence you are counting on". Please show where the over confidence was, because your statement really made no sense.

[CuseCubFan69]

I dont think they can get the Illini doubting themselves after the last 2 weeks. The key for Iowa,and any team facing the Illini, is can they stop the run? If they can stop the run, then they force Juice into throwing w

I expect the 1st half to be close, and then the Illini to come out in the 2nd wisconsin came into yesterday's game knowing exactly what the illini would try to do, and they could do nothing about it. the illini don't rely on tricks or trick plays, they don't rely on long passes that hit infrequently, they don't even rely on a great defense. they rely on shoving the ball down the throat of the defense, and, in wiconsin's case, attacking it's strength.

 

the illini have probably been made to feel sore enough, but what they thow is it overconfidence by stating the facts? as has been pointed out, i never said the illini would beat iowa, just what iowa would have to do to beat the illini.

 

a lot of teams have beaten syracuse this year, go root against THEM. :P

 

I'm not rooting for or against either sully. I think that this game is a perfect opportunity for Iowa to win, if they aren't already mailing in the season. It could just as easily be a 37-10 Illinois win. I didn't see the Wisconsin guys complain before when I wrote that Illinois could beat their team.

 

You still arent answering how Sully was being over confident in his post. He laid it out how Iowa would have to play to beat the Illini this week, and then you come in saying "thats the over confidence you are counting on". Please show where the over confidence was, because your statement really made no sense.

 

"Shoving the ball and wearing them out". If these things are not executed then they will have a problem. The over confidence part of it is thinking this way but if you fail to do as you as you are used too, you doubt yourself and that's when you were over confident and not truly ready.

[Soul]

I dont think they can get the Illini doubting themselves after the last 2 weeks. The key for Iowa,and any team facing the Illini, is can they stop the run? If they can stop the run, then they force Juice into throwing w

I expect the 1st half to be close, and then the Illini to come out in the 2nd wisconsin came into yesterday's game knowing exactly what the illini would try to do, and they could do nothing about it. the illini don't rely on tricks or trick plays, they don't rely on long passes that hit infrequently, they don't even rely on a great defense. they rely on shoving the ball down the throat of the defense, and, in wiconsin's case, attacking it's strength.

 

the illini have probably been made to feel sore enough, but what they thow is it overconfidence by stating the facts? as has been pointed out, i never said the illini would beat iowa, just what iowa would have to do to beat the illini.

 

a lot of teams have beaten syracuse this year, go root against THEM. :P

 

I'm not rooting for or against either sully. I think that this game is a perfect opportunity for Iowa to win, if they aren't already mailing in the season. It could just as easily be a 37-10 Illinois win. I didn't see the Wisconsin guys complain before when I wrote that Illinois could beat their team.

 

You still arent answering how Sully was being over confident in his post. He laid it out how Iowa would have to play to beat the Illini this week, and then you come in saying "thats the over confidence you are counting on". Please show where the over confidence was, because your statement really made no sense.

 

"Shoving the ball and wearing them out". If these things are not executed then they will have a problem. The over confidence part of it is thinking this way but if you fail to do as you as you are used too, you doubt yourself and that's when you were over confident and not truly ready.

 

Sure, it could easily be a trap game for Illinois.

 

Plus, I just have this feeling that these Big 10 teams are very, very similar -- all are flawed, they beat up on each other all year, none of them scream "national champs!" to me.

 

I think it's quite possible Iowa could suprise the Illini. I don't think it should offend an Illini fan to say that. They need to be ready for the letdown, that's all.

[da bears]

4. Nebraska is not a good team. So Missouri fans dont get to excited about this win. Also dont think that if you shut down Nebraskas running game you can do the same to OK.

 

Rashard Mendenhall 2007 stats:

 

Mizzou: 11 carries 33 yards

Western Illinois: 23 carries 139 yards

at Syracuse: 16 carries 150 yards

at Indiana: 27 carries 214 yards

Penn State: 18 carries 76 yards

Wisconsin: 19 carries 160 yards

 

Now he did have two touchdowns against Mizzou; however, his long was 25 yards for a TD.

 

Mizzou did give up over 200 to Ole Miss back Green-Ellis, and 100 to the Illinois State back (most when the game was in hand), but they've been decent against the two best rushers they've seen, Mendenhall and Lucky. I don't think Mizzou will hold OU's backs down (they're just too damn good), but it should be better than it was last year against OU (they had 231 yards rushing without Adrian Peterson). Hmm, on second thought 231 seems low. It seemed like they ran for 500.

Edited October 8, 2007 by da bears

[Derwood]

Iowa has too many injuries and suspensions. they looked absolutely clueless against PSU. I can't imagine them beating Illinois

[E.J.]

How many more crappy teams does Michigan have to barely sneak by to get back into the top 25? :lol:

 

I can't wait for Carr to be gone.

[CuseCubFan69]

How many more crappy teams does Michigan have to barely sneak by to get back into the top 25? :lol:

 

I can't wait for Carr to be gone.

 

Well if you eeked out a win vs App St that Duck loss alone would have you guys in the top 10!

[CuseCubFan69]

I dont think they can get the Illini doubting themselves after the last 2 weeks. The key for Iowa,and any team facing the Illini, is can they stop the run? If they can stop the run, then they force Juice into throwing w

I expect the 1st half to be close, and then the Illini to come out in the 2nd wisconsin came into yesterday's game knowing exactly what the illini would try to do, and they could do nothing about it. the illini don't rely on tricks or trick plays, they don't rely on long passes that hit infrequently, they don't even rely on a great defense. they rely on shoving the ball down the throat of the defense, and, in wiconsin's case, attacking it's strength.

 

the illini have probably been made to feel sore enough, but what they thow is it overconfidence by stating the facts? as has been pointed out, i never said the illini would beat iowa, just what iowa would have to do to beat the illini.

 

a lot of teams have beaten syracuse this year, go root against THEM. :P

 

I'm not rooting for or against either sully. I think that this game is a perfect opportunity for Iowa to win, if they aren't already mailing in the season. It could just as easily be a 37-10 Illinois win. I didn't see the Wisconsin guys complain before when I wrote that Illinois could beat their team.

 

You still arent answering how Sully was being over confident in his post. He laid it out how Iowa would have to play to beat the Illini this week, and then you come in saying "thats the over confidence you are counting on". Please show where the over confidence was, because your statement really made no sense.

 

"Shoving the ball and wearing them out". If these things are not executed then they will have a problem. The over confidence part of it is thinking this way but if you fail to do as you as you are used too, you doubt yourself and that's when you were over confident and not truly ready.

 

Sure, it could easily be a trap game for Illinois.

 

Plus, I just have this feeling that these Big 10 teams are very, very similar -- all are flawed, they beat up on each other all year, none of them scream "national champs!" to me.

 

I think it's quite possible Iowa could suprise the Illini. I don't think it should offend an Illini fan to say that. They need to be ready for the letdown, that's all.

 

I think that could be said of every conference this year. I think the teams that can play well in every area have a chance to go to the BCS game. Ohio State reminds me of the team that they had that won the championship a few years ago. Tough D and decent enough offense.

[dew1679666265]

I dont think they can get the Illini doubting themselves after the last 2 weeks. The key for Iowa,and any team facing the Illini, is can they stop the run? If they can stop the run, then they force Juice into throwing w

I expect the 1st half to be close, and then the Illini to come out in the 2nd wisconsin came into yesterday's game knowing exactly what the illini would try to do, and they could do nothing about it. the illini don't rely on tricks or trick plays, they don't rely on long passes that hit infrequently, they don't even rely on a great defense. they rely on shoving the ball down the throat of the defense, and, in wiconsin's case, attacking it's strength.

 

the illini have probably been made to feel sore enough, but what they thow is it overconfidence by stating the facts? as has been pointed out, i never said the illini would beat iowa, just what iowa would have to do to beat the illini.

 

a lot of teams have beaten syracuse this year, go root against THEM. :P

 

I'm not rooting for or against either sully. I think that this game is a perfect opportunity for Iowa to win, if they aren't already mailing in the season. It could just as easily be a 37-10 Illinois win. I didn't see the Wisconsin guys complain before when I wrote that Illinois could beat their team.

 

You still arent answering how Sully was being over confident in his post. He laid it out how Iowa would have to play to beat the Illini this week, and then you come in saying "thats the over confidence you are counting on". Please show where the over confidence was, because your statement really made no sense.

 

"Shoving the ball and wearing them out". If these things are not executed then they will have a problem. The over confidence part of it is thinking this way but if you fail to do as you as you are used too, you doubt yourself and that's when you were over confident and not truly ready.

 

Sure, it could easily be a trap game for Illinois.

 

Plus, I just have this feeling that these Big 10 teams are very, very similar -- all are flawed, they beat up on each other all year, none of them scream "national champs!" to me.

 

I think it's quite possible Iowa could suprise the Illini. I don't think it should offend an Illini fan to say that. They need to be ready for the letdown, that's all.

 

I think that could be said of every conference this year. I think the teams that can play well in every area have a chance to go to the BCS game. Ohio State reminds me of the team that they had that won the championship a few years ago. Tough D and decent enough offense.

 

I honestly think LSU may be the only team out there without a major flaw. USC doesn't have an apparent one, but something made them lose to Stanford ( :lol: I can't say that enough, Stanford beat USC :lol: ). LSU struggled against Florida, but watching the game I didn't see any major flaw in their game.

[Guest]

I dont think they can get the Illini doubting themselves after the last 2 weeks. The key for Iowa,and any team facing the Illini, is can they stop the run? If they can stop the run, then they force Juice into throwing w

I expect the 1st half to be close, and then the Illini to come out in the 2nd wisconsin came into yesterday's game knowing exactly what the illini would try to do, and they could do nothing about it. the illini don't rely on tricks or trick plays, they don't rely on long passes that hit infrequently, they don't even rely on a great defense. they rely on shoving the ball down the throat of the defense, and, in wiconsin's case, attacking it's strength.

 

the illini have probably been made to feel sore enough, but what they thow is it overconfidence by stating the facts? as has been pointed out, i never said the illini would beat iowa, just what iowa would have to do to beat the illini.

 

a lot of teams have beaten syracuse this year, go root against THEM. :P

 

I'm not rooting for or against either sully. I think that this game is a perfect opportunity for Iowa to win, if they aren't already mailing in the season. It could just as easily be a 37-10 Illinois win. I didn't see the Wisconsin guys complain before when I wrote that Illinois could beat their team.

 

You still arent answering how Sully was being over confident in his post. He laid it out how Iowa would have to play to beat the Illini this week, and then you come in saying "thats the over confidence you are counting on". Please show where the over confidence was, because your statement really made no sense.

 

"Shoving the ball and wearing them out". If these things are not executed then they will have a problem. The over confidence part of it is thinking this way but if you fail to do as you as you are used too, you doubt yourself and that's when you were over confident and not truly ready.

 

Sure, it could easily be a trap game for Illinois.

 

Plus, I just have this feeling that these Big 10 teams are very, very similar -- all are flawed, they beat up on each other all year, none of them scream "national champs!" to me.

 

I think it's quite possible Iowa could suprise the Illini. I don't think it should offend an Illini fan to say that. They need to be ready for the letdown, that's all.

 

I think that could be said of every conference this year. I think the teams that can play well in every area have a chance to go to the BCS game. Ohio State reminds me of the team that they had that won the championship a few years ago. Tough D and decent enough offense.

 

I honestly think LSU may be the only team out there without a major flaw. USC doesn't have an apparent one, but something made them lose to Stanford ( :lol: I can't say that enough, Stanford beat USC :lol: ). LSU struggled against Florida, but watching the game I didn't see any major flaw in their game.

 

That something was John David Booty and his 4 interceptions against the vaunted Stanford D.

[CuseCubFan69]

I think that could be said of every conference this year. I think the teams that can play well in every area have a chance to go to the BCS game. Ohio State reminds me of the team that they had that won the championship a few years ago. Tough D and decent enough offense.

 

I honestly think LSU may be the only team out there without a major flaw. USC doesn't have an apparent one, but something made them lose to Stanford ( :lol: I can't say that enough, Stanford beat USC :lol: ). LSU struggled against Florida, but watching the game I didn't see any major flaw in their game.

 

LSU is strong and possibly the most balanced but they have to play the rest of the SEC plus that championship game of yours. I haven't seen them play from behind but it does seem they can pass if they are behind. But, I thought that about USC too. Except for the SEC stuff that is!

[dew1679666265]

I dont think they can get the Illini doubting themselves after the last 2 weeks. The key for Iowa,and any team facing the Illini, is can they stop the run? If they can stop the run, then they force Juice into throwing w

I expect the 1st half to be close, and then the Illini to come out in the 2nd wisconsin came into yesterday's game knowing exactly what the illini would try to do, and they could do nothing about it. the illini don't rely on tricks or trick plays, they don't rely on long passes that hit infrequently, they don't even rely on a great defense. they rely on shoving the ball down the throat of the defense, and, in wiconsin's case, attacking it's strength.

 

the illini have probably been made to feel sore enough, but what they thow is it overconfidence by stating the facts? as has been pointed out, i never said the illini would beat iowa, just what iowa would have to do to beat the illini.

 

a lot of teams have beaten syracuse this year, go root against THEM. :P

 

I'm not rooting for or against either sully. I think that this game is a perfect opportunity for Iowa to win, if they aren't already mailing in the season. It could just as easily be a 37-10 Illinois win. I didn't see the Wisconsin guys complain before when I wrote that Illinois could beat their team.

 

You still arent answering how Sully was being over confident in his post. He laid it out how Iowa would have to play to beat the Illini this week, and then you come in saying "thats the over confidence you are counting on". Please show where the over confidence was, because your statement really made no sense.

 

"Shoving the ball and wearing them out". If these things are not executed then they will have a problem. The over confidence part of it is thinking this way but if you fail to do as you as you are used too, you doubt yourself and that's when you were over confident and not truly ready.

 

Sure, it could easily be a trap game for Illinois.

 

Plus, I just have this feeling that these Big 10 teams are very, very similar -- all are flawed, they beat up on each other all year, none of them scream "national champs!" to me.

 

I think it's quite possible Iowa could suprise the Illini. I don't think it should offend an Illini fan to say that. They need to be ready for the letdown, that's all.

 

I think that could be said of every conference this year. I think the teams that can play well in every area have a chance to go to the BCS game. Ohio State reminds me of the team that they had that won the championship a few years ago. Tough D and decent enough offense.

 

I honestly think LSU may be the only team out there without a major flaw. USC doesn't have an apparent one, but something made them lose to Stanford ( :lol: I can't say that enough, Stanford beat USC :lol: ). LSU struggled against Florida, but watching the game I didn't see any major flaw in their game.

 

That something was John David Booty and his 4 interceptions against the vaunted Stanford D.

 

Excellent point Raisin. Booty looked truly awful Saturday.

 

I really think he's playing himself out of definitely a high draft pick, if not a first rounder altogether.

[dew1679666265]

I think that could be said of every conference this year. I think the teams that can play well in every area have a chance to go to the BCS game. Ohio State reminds me of the team that they had that won the championship a few years ago. Tough D and decent enough offense.

 

I honestly think LSU may be the only team out there without a major flaw. USC doesn't have an apparent one, but something made them lose to Stanford ( :lol: I can't say that enough, Stanford beat USC :lol: ). LSU struggled against Florida, but watching the game I didn't see any major flaw in their game.

 

LSU is strong and possibly the most balanced but they have to play the rest of the SEC plus that championship game of yours. I haven't seen them play from behind but it does seem they can pass if they are behind. But, I thought that about USC too. Except for the SEC stuff that is!

 

Yeah, I'm not saying they won't lose a game this year, just that they look to be the strongest team out there this year on paper. I like the Flynn/Perilloux mix, though anytime you run a two-QB system there's a strong chance of it blowing up in your face.

 

Hopefully, they'll stay unbeaten until the championship game you hate so much and Tennessee can take them out. 8-)

 

 

 

 

Disclaimer - obviously I'm joking about UT, I have little faith the Vols have the personnel to beat LSU this year and am not sure we'll even make the title game as is. But, we control our own destiny.

[Soul]

Watching Stanford come down with that game winning TD in beautiful high-def ranks up there with the best moments in sports for me in 2007. It was truly an amazing thing to see. Right in the face of a packed Coliseum, too.

 

I'm not sure it can be topped, really.

[SouthSideRyan]

Stanford/USC being replayed on Versus RIGHT NOW

 

2 minutes remaining.

[fiver]

Watching Stanford come down with that game winning TD in beautiful high-def ranks up there with the best moments in sports for me in 2007. It was truly an amazing thing to see. Right in the face of a packed Coliseum, too.

 

I'm not sure it can be topped, really.

 

An Auburn victory over LSU in two weeks would top it for me..... :pigfly:

[CDBears1259]

Watching Stanford come down with that game winning TD in beautiful high-def ranks up there with the best moments in sports for me in 2007. It was truly an amazing thing to see. Right in the face of a packed Coliseum, too.

 

I'm not sure it can be topped, really.

 

An Auburn victory over LSU in two weeks would top it for me..... :pigfly:

Funny story. I've got some buddies of mine who I met when I lived in Houston that went to Auburn (some graduated from there, some didn't). Anyway, after I moved back to BR, they decided to make the AU/LSU game an annual trip, be it in BR or Auburn. Well just before or just after this season started, I got a call from the main guy asking if they could stay with me or if they needed to make reservations. Fast forward to about 2 weeks ago (actually the week before they beat Florida) and the guy calls me back and says nevermind, they decided not to come down. He didn't give me a real good reason, so I ask a few questions and he tries to play them off before finally saying something along the lines of "well, you want the truth? We decided we didn't want to waste our time and money driving down there to watch us get our asses kicked". So I called him back after they beat Florida thinking okay maybe that changed their minds and they still don't want any part of coming to Tiger Stadium. Of course I had to call them out for being a bunch of candyasses, but it gave me quite a bit of joy knowing their feelings.

[Guest]

I honestly think LSU may be the only team out there without a major flaw. USC doesn't have an apparent one, but something made them lose to Stanford ( :lol: I can't say that enough, Stanford beat USC :lol: ). LSU struggled against Florida, but watching the game I didn't see any major flaw in their game.

 

That something was John David Booty and his 4 interceptions against the vaunted Stanford D.

 

Excellent point Raisin. Booty looked truly awful Saturday.

 

I really think he's playing himself out of definitely a high draft pick, if not a first rounder altogether.

 

Booty played majority of Stanford game with broken finger

 

Cut the guy some slack.

[Guest]

Ben Olson will undergo precautionary arthroscopic surgery tomorrow at UCLA Med Center to check on a possible tear of his PCL. No timetable is set for a potential return.

 

Pat Cowan will be out for the Cal game with an MCL tear and it looks like Dorrell will not take the redshirt off freshman Chris Forcier so walk-on McLeod Bethel-Thompson and backup wide receiver/former spread/option QB Osaar Rasshan will be vying for the starting QB spot against Cal in two weeks. Lovely.

[Guest]

Oh, and I forgot to add something.

 

UC Davis sucks. The end.

[Derwood]

the local paper certainly built up the Wisconsin game as being winnable for Penn State. Lots of injuries on the Badgers. I'm still not getting my hopes up

[CuseCubFan69]

the local paper certainly built up the Wisconsin game as being winnable for Penn State. Lots of injuries on the Badgers. I'm still not getting my hopes up

 

I don't understand how that game would be perceived to not be a winnable game for the Nit Lions?

[Derwood]

the local paper certainly built up the Wisconsin game as being winnable for Penn State. Lots of injuries on the Badgers. I'm still not getting my hopes up

 

I don't understand how that game would be perceived to not be a winnable game for the Nit Lions?

 

because Penn State sucks?