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Ok or that Notre Dame football players are Real college students that are getting engineering degrees and such.

 

anybody that roots for a major college program and thinks that the athletes on the team are students of the same caliber as the average student at that school is kidding themself.

 

I've known dozens and dozens of athletes that have gone through the University of Iowa, and every last one of them earned a medical degree.

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Ok or that Notre Dame football players are Real college students that are getting engineering degrees and such.

 

anybody that roots for a major college program and thinks that the athletes on the team are students of the same caliber as the average student at that school is kidding themself.

 

Maybe not but some schools prefer to have kids that are not students in any capacity. Winning and doing it "the right way" is almost impossible because of these schools.

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Ok or that Notre Dame football players are Real college students that are getting engineering degrees and such.

 

anybody that roots for a major college program and thinks that the athletes on the team are students of the same caliber as the average student at that school is kidding themself.

 

I've known dozens and dozens of athletes that have gone through the University of Iowa, and every last one of them earned a medical degree.

 

Even Pierre Pierce?

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Ok or that Notre Dame football players are Real college students that are getting engineering degrees and such.

 

anybody that roots for a major college program and thinks that the athletes on the team are students of the same caliber as the average student at that school is kidding themself.

 

I've known dozens and dozens of athletes that have gone through the University of Iowa, and every last one of them earned a medical degree.

 

Even Pierre Pierce?

 

even Pierre Pierce

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Ok or that Notre Dame football players are Real college students that are getting engineering degrees and such.

 

anybody that roots for a major college program and thinks that the athletes on the team are students of the same caliber as the average student at that school is kidding themself.

 

Maybe not but some schools prefer to have kids that are not students in any capacity. Winning and doing it "the right way" is almost impossible because of these schools.

 

Do they really prefer to have kids on the team that aren't great students, or do they just do what they can to get the best football players/athletes that meet or exceed the minimum academic requirements? If the kids do meet or exceed the minimum NCAA academic requirements, then why would this not be considered winning the "right way"? Head coaches are under a lot of pressure to win and now. Most don't stay on the payroll because of how many of their wide receivers went on to medical school later in life. I somewhat understand your point. Schools such as Vanderbilt are at a disadvantage because they hold their athletes to a higher academic standard than the NCAA ...but the NCAA really needs to raise minimum requirements for any nationwide change to come into fruition.

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Ok or that Notre Dame football players are Real college students that are getting engineering degrees and such.

 

anybody that roots for a major college program and thinks that the athletes on the team are students of the same caliber as the average student at that school is kidding themself.

 

I've known dozens and dozens of athletes that have gone through the University of Iowa, and every last one of them earned a medical degree.

 

Even Pierre Pierce?

 

even Pierre Pierce

 

especially Pierre Pierce.

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What the heck.

Ohio State freshman quarterback arrested:

Freshman Antonio Henton, a reserve quarterback on the Ohio State football team, is in Franklin County Municipal Court this morning on a charge of soliciting a prostitute. Court records show that he was arrested at N. High Street and 6th Avenue by an undercover police officer.

 

Personally, I don't think there should be a law against that.

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funniest quote of the day:

 

 

Jim Tressel:

Antonio is keenly aware of the standard we have for ourselves

 

:lol:

 

Honorable mention:

 

 

Antonio Henton:

It just goes along with being smart on and off the field. Not only on the field, you've got to be smart off the field. I feel bad for (Vick). As far as life goes, you've got to be smart with the people you hang around.

 

 

By the way, he offered $20 for sex... nice work Antonio.

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funniest quote of the day:

 

 

Jim Tressel:

Antonio is keenly aware of the standard we have for ourselves

 

:lol:

 

Honorable mention:

 

 

Antonio Henton:

It just goes along with being smart on and off the field. Not only on the field, you've got to be smart off the field. I feel bad for (Vick). As far as life goes, you've got to be smart with the people you hang around.

 

 

By the way, he offered $20 for sex... nice work Antonio.

 

Even better is that he apparently only had 19 bucks on him.

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Ok or that Notre Dame football players are Real college students that are getting engineering degrees and such.

 

anybody that roots for a major college program and thinks that the athletes on the team are students of the same caliber as the average student at that school is kidding themself.

 

Maybe not but some schools prefer to have kids that are not students in any capacity. Winning and doing it "the right way" is almost impossible because of these schools.

 

Do they really prefer to have kids on the team that aren't great students, or do they just do what they can to get the best football players/athletes that meet or exceed the minimum academic requirements? If the kids do meet or exceed the minimum NCAA academic requirements, then why would this not be considered winning the "right way"? Head coaches are under a lot of pressure to win and now. Most don't stay on the payroll because of how many of their wide receivers went on to medical school later in life. I somewhat understand your point. Schools such as Vanderbilt are at a disadvantage because they hold their athletes to a higher academic standard than the NCAA ...but the NCAA really needs to raise minimum requirements for any nationwide change to come into fruition.

 

Not exactly. I'm talking about kids that are out of control and coaches that let them do as they want. These kids that get arrested all the time but yet still are able to play. Florida St really helps prove the point by making a kid second string after getting into a fight with some cops. Texas with 6 kids arrested, that's just this year. God only knows what Vick got away with at VTech and we saw what a jerk his brother was and Beamer did nothing until forced to. I'm all for giving a kid a chance but there comes a point when this is just getting plain ridicules. These are the ones we know about and not the ones that are swept under the rug. These kids are thugs with no one holding them accountable because of this pressure of winning. Look at all the SEC teams that go on probation, is there one that hasn't been? They skirt the rules by the skin of their teeth not just once or twice but constantly. I have no idea how Ohio State hasn't gotten in trouble.

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Ok or that Notre Dame football players are Real college students that are getting engineering degrees and such.

 

anybody that roots for a major college program and thinks that the athletes on the team are students of the same caliber as the average student at that school is kidding themself.

 

Maybe not but some schools prefer to have kids that are not students in any capacity. Winning and doing it "the right way" is almost impossible because of these schools.

 

Do they really prefer to have kids on the team that aren't great students, or do they just do what they can to get the best football players/athletes that meet or exceed the minimum academic requirements? If the kids do meet or exceed the minimum NCAA academic requirements, then why would this not be considered winning the "right way"? Head coaches are under a lot of pressure to win and now. Most don't stay on the payroll because of how many of their wide receivers went on to medical school later in life. I somewhat understand your point. Schools such as Vanderbilt are at a disadvantage because they hold their athletes to a higher academic standard than the NCAA ...but the NCAA really needs to raise minimum requirements for any nationwide change to come into fruition.

 

Not exactly. I'm talking about kids that are out of control and coaches that let them do as they want. These kids that get arrested all the time but yet still are able to play. Florida St really helps prove the point by making a kid second string after getting into a fight with some cops. Texas with 6 kids arrested, that's just this year. God only knows what Vick got away with at VTech and we saw what a jerk his brother was and Beamer did nothing until forced to. I'm all for giving a kid a chance but there comes a point when this is just getting plain ridicules. These are the ones we know about and not the ones that are swept under the rug. These kids are thugs with no one holding them accountable because of this pressure of winning. Look at all the SEC teams that go on probation, is there one that hasn't been? They skirt the rules by the skin of their teeth not just once or twice but constantly. I have no idea how Ohio State hasn't gotten in trouble.

 

I don't recall when Tennessee was on probation. It may have been before my time, but I can't remember it.

 

Also, Vandy to my knowledge has never been on probation. :D

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Illinois has me all sorts of worried. this game reeks of "JoePa plays it safe and conservative and gets completely outcoached by a team that does something other than run up the middle and punt"
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Illinois has me all sorts of worried. this game reeks of "JoePa plays it safe and conservative and gets completely outcoached by a team that does something other than run up the middle and punt"

 

Illinois by 7

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Not exactly. I'm talking about kids that are out of control and coaches that let them do as they want. These kids that get arrested all the time but yet still are able to play. Florida St really helps prove the point by making a kid second string after getting into a fight with some cops. Texas with 6 kids arrested, that's just this year. God only knows what Vick got away with at VTech and we saw what a jerk his brother was and Beamer did nothing until forced to. I'm all for giving a kid a chance but there comes a point when this is just getting plain ridicules. These are the ones we know about and not the ones that are swept under the rug. These kids are thugs with no one holding them accountable because of this pressure of winning. Look at all the SEC teams that go on probation, is there one that hasn't been? They skirt the rules by the skin of their teeth not just once or twice but constantly. I have no idea how Ohio State hasn't gotten in trouble.

 

understand...and agree. For instance, two players at Texas, Sergio Kindle and Henry Melton, were charged with DWI. Is a three game suspension enough punishment for that type of offense? ..probably not. Last season, Auburn linebacker, Trey Blackmon, was arrested for underage drinking. Tuberville suspended him for four games. To me, drinking and driving is a much more severe offense than underage drinking. What prevents the NCAA from setting some type of standard in these scenarios instead of deferring to the respective head coaches?

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Illinois has me all sorts of worried. this game reeks of "JoePa plays it safe and conservative and gets completely outcoached by a team that does something other than run up the middle and punt"

 

i sure hope not... if you're getting outcoached by ron zook, you really suck

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Crank dat soulja boy vs KSU, UT!

 

 

Amazing. At a road game nonetheless.

#85 can pop and lock like nobody's business.

 

punters and kickers mysteriously absent from the dance party

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Not exactly. I'm talking about kids that are out of control and coaches that let them do as they want. These kids that get arrested all the time but yet still are able to play. Florida St really helps prove the point by making a kid second string after getting into a fight with some cops. Texas with 6 kids arrested, that's just this year. God only knows what Vick got away with at VTech and we saw what a jerk his brother was and Beamer did nothing until forced to. I'm all for giving a kid a chance but there comes a point when this is just getting plain ridicules. These are the ones we know about and not the ones that are swept under the rug. These kids are thugs with no one holding them accountable because of this pressure of winning. Look at all the SEC teams that go on probation, is there one that hasn't been? They skirt the rules by the skin of their teeth not just once or twice but constantly. I have no idea how Ohio State hasn't gotten in trouble.

 

understand...and agree. For instance, two players at Texas, Sergio Kindle and Henry Melton, were charged with DWI. Is a three game suspension enough punishment for that type of offense? ..probably not. Last season, Auburn linebacker, Trey Blackmon, was arrested for underage drinking. Tuberville suspended him for four games. To me, drinking and driving is a much more severe offense than underage drinking. What prevents the NCAA from setting some type of standard in these scenarios instead of deferring to the respective head coaches?

 

I suppose they (NCAA) would hope to let the coaches or AD's or Presidents take charge but God forbid they do because they'd be jumped on like a dog in heat. Also, a lot of the punishments depend on how big of an impact player they are or who they are playing in the future. You bet a DWI is worse than underage drinking.

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Illinois has me all sorts of worried. this game reeks of "JoePa plays it safe and conservative and gets completely outcoached by a team that does something other than run up the middle and punt"

 

i sure hope not... if you're getting outcoached by ron zook, you really suck

 

This. JoePa certainly won't get outcoached, PSU could easily be outplayed.

 

Amazing how far we've come, only 3 point dogs against Penn St.

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Crank dat soulja boy vs KSU, UT!

 

 

thats fantastic. thats a tailgate song favorite for my tailgate group. i think its pretty damn funny that they did that.

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Not exactly. I'm talking about kids that are out of control and coaches that let them do as they want. These kids that get arrested all the time but yet still are able to play. Florida St really helps prove the point by making a kid second string after getting into a fight with some cops. Texas with 6 kids arrested, that's just this year. God only knows what Vick got away with at VTech and we saw what a jerk his brother was and Beamer did nothing until forced to. I'm all for giving a kid a chance but there comes a point when this is just getting plain ridicules. These are the ones we know about and not the ones that are swept under the rug. These kids are thugs with no one holding them accountable because of this pressure of winning. Look at all the SEC teams that go on probation, is there one that hasn't been? They skirt the rules by the skin of their teeth not just once or twice but constantly. I have no idea how Ohio State hasn't gotten in trouble.

 

understand...and agree. For instance, two players at Texas, Sergio Kindle and Henry Melton, were charged with DWI. Is a three game suspension enough punishment for that type of offense? ..probably not. Last season, Auburn linebacker, Trey Blackmon, was arrested for underage drinking. Tuberville suspended him for four games. To me, drinking and driving is a much more severe offense than underage drinking. What prevents the NCAA from setting some type of standard in these scenarios instead of deferring to the respective head coaches?

 

I suppose they (NCAA) would hope to let the coaches or AD's or Presidents take charge but God forbid they do because they'd be jumped on like a dog in heat. Also, a lot of the punishments depend on how big of an impact player they are or who they are playing in the future. You bet a DWI is worse than underage drinking.

 

Brett Bielema threw his starting defensive end off of the team for talking back to him. Although I think that is just the straw that broke the camel's back as there had been problems in the past with academics with the same player.

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Not exactly. I'm talking about kids that are out of control and coaches that let them do as they want. These kids that get arrested all the time but yet still are able to play. Florida St really helps prove the point by making a kid second string after getting into a fight with some cops. Texas with 6 kids arrested, that's just this year. God only knows what Vick got away with at VTech and we saw what a jerk his brother was and Beamer did nothing until forced to. I'm all for giving a kid a chance but there comes a point when this is just getting plain ridicules. These are the ones we know about and not the ones that are swept under the rug. These kids are thugs with no one holding them accountable because of this pressure of winning. Look at all the SEC teams that go on probation, is there one that hasn't been? They skirt the rules by the skin of their teeth not just once or twice but constantly. I have no idea how Ohio State hasn't gotten in trouble.

 

understand...and agree. For instance, two players at Texas, Sergio Kindle and Henry Melton, were charged with DWI. Is a three game suspension enough punishment for that type of offense? ..probably not. Last season, Auburn linebacker, Trey Blackmon, was arrested for underage drinking. Tuberville suspended him for four games. To me, drinking and driving is a much more severe offense than underage drinking. What prevents the NCAA from setting some type of standard in these scenarios instead of deferring to the respective head coaches?

 

I suppose they (NCAA) would hope to let the coaches or AD's or Presidents take charge but God forbid they do because they'd be jumped on like a dog in heat. Also, a lot of the punishments depend on how big of an impact player they are or who they are playing in the future. You bet a DWI is worse than underage drinking.

 

Brett Bielema threw his starting defensive end off of the team for talking back to him. Although I think that is just the straw that broke the camel's back as there had been problems in the past with academics with the same player.

 

Bielema also has a medical degree

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