8/23 Cubs (Zambrano) at Giants (Cain) 2:35 PM CT, WGN

[Keener98]

Wow, if Z could have gotten their pitcher out, this game would be tied.

I'm much more concerned about this anemic offense than I am Carlos Zambrano.

 

You arent concerned about your supposed ace having an almost 4. ERA?

No, Z has been really good over the last two months. This offense is terrible.

 

Might want to check your stats before stating false things.

[JimSorgi]

Eyre=Forfeit

not really

[TMan92]

Don't worry. Here comes the offense.

[illiniguy]

This is hilarious. Sunday night at least 5 people were furious the game was rained out because Z had no-hit stuff and was set to dominate. 90% of the people on this board were happy about his signing.

 

4 runs over 5.1 innings later and we've had 312 "he's not our ace" "glad we get to pay him 90 million" "good thing the new contract straightened his head out" comments.

These are the same people who had no problem giving Wood a few a big contract in '03 even though he had the same problems.

[Guest]

I can't believe how bipolar some of you are towards the Cubs. One minute you love Z, the next you say he's not an ace. I can't imagine you guys with your families :lol:

 

But what do I know, we all love our Cubbies I guess.

 

How is it bipolar to say Z has major control issues and hasn't been the best pitcher on the team this season (aka not an ace - he has a 4.00 ERA). The criticisms are coming now that he's making $18 million a year.

 

It's not just Z. It's the whole freakin team.

 

Yes, the team sucks. But guys likes Alfonso, Derrek, Aramis and Z are going to draw more criticism because they are better than they are showing now and because they are paid a lot of money.

[TysonCBulls423]

Game still isn't over boys.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Kendall has been flat out raking it this month, wow. even his outs have been hit hard.

[Keener98]

I can't believe how bipolar some of you are towards the Cubs. One minute you love Z, the next you say he's not an ace. I can't imagine you guys with your families :lol:

 

But what do I know, we all love our Cubbies I guess.

 

How is it bipolar to say Z has major control issues and hasn't been the best pitcher on the team this season (aka not an ace - he has a 4.00 ERA). The criticisms are coming now that he's making $18 million a year.

 

It's not just Z. It's the whole freakin team.

 

Yes, the team sucks. But guys likes Alfonso, Derrek, Aramis and Z are going to draw more criticism because they are better than they are showing now and because they are paid a lot of money.

 

Hell Hill takes a beating around here by many, and hes making the league minimum, and has outpitched Z all year.

[hawkeyecub]

This is hilarious. Sunday night at least 5 people were furious the game was rained out because Z had no-hit stuff and was set to dominate. 90% of the people on this board were happy about his signing.

 

4 runs over 5.1 innings later and we've had 312 "he's not our ace" "glad we get to pay him 90 million" "good thing the new contract straightened his head out" comments.

 

Dominant stuff or not, for the stuff that counts, he has a 7.04 ERA in 23 August innings. Not exactly where you want your ace during the stretch run of a close pennant race.

 

I'm talking about the bi-polar nature of people. Sunday night before the rain the majority were celebrating his signing and how dominant he looked through 3 innings, lamenting the fact that he couldn't fulfill the no-hitter he was set to throw that night.

Today all of this talk was going on after he had given up 2 runs in 5 innings.

 

It's just entertaining.

[JimSorgi]

The Cubs are going to win this game just to shut you guys up.

[IowaCubsFan]

I do hope some of you realize how nasty Cain and Lincecum are and how nasty Zito can be. Yet we still have 2 wins thus far.

 

I do hope you realize that Cain is 5-13 and Zito has an ERA of close to 5. You don't get 13 losses by being THAT nasty.

 

This is a last place team we're talking about here. They should be sweeping these bums, especially with Z on the mound.

[TysonCBulls423]

Murton against Cain should be fun.

[UMFan83]

Game still isn't over boys.

 

Yes it is...the Orioles in the bottom of the 9th in game 1 yesterday had a better shot than us.

[Keener98]

Game still isn't over boys.

 

For some reason I feel like you would say this even after the last out in the 9th inning is recorded lol

[Handlebar McSkullet]

This is hilarious. Sunday night at least 5 people were furious the game was rained out because Z had no-hit stuff and was set to dominate. 90% of the people on this board were happy about his signing.

 

4 runs over 5.1 innings later and we've had 312 "he's not our ace" "glad we get to pay him 90 million" "good thing the new contract straightened his head out" comments.

These are the same people who had no problem giving Wood a few a big contract in '03 even though he had the same problems.

 

Wood's problem was run support and walks, nothing from 02 and 03 would suggest that his career would drop like it has.

[illiniguy]

I do hope some of you realize how nasty Cain and Lincecum are and how nasty Zito can be. Yet we still have 2 wins thus far.

 

I do hope you realize that Cain is 5-13 and Zito has an ERA of close to 5. You don't get 13 losses by being THAT nasty.

 

This is a last place team we're talking about here. They should be sweeping these bums, especially with Z on the mound.

Cain has Rich Hillesque run support.

[illiniguy]

This is hilarious. Sunday night at least 5 people were furious the game was rained out because Z had no-hit stuff and was set to dominate. 90% of the people on this board were happy about his signing.

 

4 runs over 5.1 innings later and we've had 312 "he's not our ace" "glad we get to pay him 90 million" "good thing the new contract straightened his head out" comments.

These are the same people who had no problem giving Wood a few a big contract in '03 even though he had the same problems.

 

Wood's problem was run support and walks, nothing from 02 and 03 would suggest that his career would drop like it has.

Isn't Z's big problem walks??

[JimSorgi]

I do hope some of you realize how nasty Cain and Lincecum are and how nasty Zito can be. Yet we still have 2 wins thus far.

 

I do hope you realize that Cain is 5-13 and Zito has an ERA of close to 5. You don't get 13 losses by being THAT nasty.

 

This is a last place team we're talking about here. They should be sweeping these bums, especially with Z on the mound.

Cain has had terrible run support all season. You can't go by wins and losses to know how good a pitcher is.

[TysonCBulls423]

I do hope some of you realize how nasty Cain and Lincecum are and how nasty Zito can be. Yet we still have 2 wins thus far.

 

I do hope you realize that Cain is 5-13 and Zito has an ERA of close to 5. You don't get 13 losses by being THAT nasty.

 

This is a last place team we're talking about here. They should be sweeping these bums, especially with Z on the mound.

 

you can't use that argument when you also say Z's 14 wins are pointless. Not talking to you personally but in general. As for Zito, his ERA in August has been pretty good..

[Keener98]

I do hope some of you realize how nasty Cain and Lincecum are and how nasty Zito can be. Yet we still have 2 wins thus far.

 

I do hope you realize that Cain is 5-13 and Zito has an ERA of close to 5. You don't get 13 losses by being THAT nasty.

 

This is a last place team we're talking about here. They should be sweeping these bums, especially with Z on the mound.

 

Cains record is an anomaly. He has a better ERA than Z, who is supposedly our ace

[YearofDaCubs]

I can't believe how bipolar some of you are towards the Cubs. One minute you love Z, the next you say he's not an ace. I can't imagine you guys with your families :lol:

 

But what do I know, we all love our Cubbies I guess.

 

How is it bipolar to say Z has major control issues and hasn't been the best pitcher on the team this season (aka not an ace - he has a 4.00 ERA). The criticisms are coming now that he's making $18 million a year.

 

It's not just Z. It's the whole freakin team.

 

Yes, the team sucks. But guys likes Alfonso, Derrek, Aramis and Z are going to draw more criticism because they are better than they are showing now and because they are paid a lot of money.

 

Hell Hill takes a beating around here by many, and hes making the league minimum, and has outpitched Z all year.

Going by ERA, Hill has outpiitched all of our starters.

[Guest]

I do hope some of you realize how nasty Cain and Lincecum are and how nasty Zito can be. Yet we still have 2 wins thus far.

 

I do hope you realize that Cain is 5-13 and Zito has an ERA of close to 5. You don't get 13 losses by being THAT nasty.

 

This is a last place team we're talking about here. They should be sweeping these bums, especially with Z on the mound.

 

W-L is an awful way of judging a pitcher, especially one who plays on a crappy team like Giants. Cain gets very little run support.

 

Zito hasn't been that good this season, I agree.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

This is hilarious. Sunday night at least 5 people were furious the game was rained out because Z had no-hit stuff and was set to dominate. 90% of the people on this board were happy about his signing.

 

4 runs over 5.1 innings later and we've had 312 "he's not our ace" "glad we get to pay him 90 million" "good thing the new contract straightened his head out" comments.

These are the same people who had no problem giving Wood a few a big contract in '03 even though he had the same problems.

 

Wood's problem was run support and walks, nothing from 02 and 03 would suggest that his career would drop like it has.

Isn't Z's big problem walks??

 

I need to learn how to type my posts so that it doesnt look like im disagreeing when im not

[TysonCBulls423]

Base hit!

[erik316wttn]

The Cubs are going to win this game just to shut you guys up.

 

Care to bet a month of premium on that?