Cubs in 1st || Sox in LAST

[Cynosure]

On the same day!

 

And the Cardinals/Brewers lose... what a glorious day!

[A New Era]

Should we start drinking? (in celebration).

[Cynosure]

No, my good luck drinking starts during the pre-game show. Always remember to drink responsibly (responsibly after the game of course, get obliterated during!).

[TruffleShuffle]

who are the sox?

[Cynosure]

who are the sox?

 

A team that caters to the underprivileged.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Funny how nobody seems to mention the parrellels between the Cubs and Sox.

 

-Both teams made it to the playoffs in a season in which they werent expected to in the beginning, difference being, obviosly that the Sox made it a bit further

-The following season, each team was close to making it again as the WC before an end season collapse.

-The next season, both teams began a decent into oblivion

-Both cities loved their new GM and Managers at first, then turned against them

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

[Andy]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

[Careless]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

Also, Dye's numbers beat the hell out of Jones (last season)

[Guest]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

 

 

three pitching prospects is better?

[Guest]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

 

 

three pitching prospects is better?

Wouldn't you trade those three for Carlos Lee in a heartbeat?

[Guest]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

 

 

three pitching prospects is better?

Wouldn't you trade those three for Carlos Lee in a heartbeat?

 

 

not with his contract. er, maybe.

[Brian]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

 

 

three pitching prospects is better?

Wouldn't you trade those three for Carlos Lee in a heartbeat?

 

 

not with his contract. er, maybe.

 

I probably would have at the time of the Sox/Brewers trade.... though probably not knowing what I know now about those 2 years he would have been a Cub (CLee wouldn't have helped '05 or '06)

[AlwaysaCub]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

 

Well, argue about chemistry all you want, but the year after that trade the White Sox won the World Series. If Jim Hendry could make a trade like that, even if for a worse player, would you really argue?

[NewUserName]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

 

Well, argue about chemistry all you want, but the year after that trade the White Sox won the World Series. If Jim Hendry could make a trade like that, even if for a worse player, would you really argue?

 

 

It freed up money to get Contreras and OHernandez. Those 2 guys had career years as did Podsednik. What Sox fans are doing in their revisionist history is saying that Podsednik gave them a better chance to win than CLee without bringing up the money savings. Which is just plain stupid. Of course most Sox fans think Erstad is a good player when healthy.

[Andy]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

 

Well, argue about chemistry all you want, but the year after that trade the White Sox won the World Series. If Jim Hendry could make a trade like that, even if for a worse player, would you really argue?

Not if we won the Series, but that trade decreased their chances of winning at that time.

[SouthSideRyan]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

 

Well, argue about chemistry all you want, but the year after that trade the White Sox won the World Series. If Jim Hendry could make a trade like that, even if for a worse player, would you really argue?

 

 

It freed up money to get Contreras and OHernandez. Those 2 guys had career years as did Podsednik. What Sox fans are doing in their revisionist history is saying that Podsednik gave them a better chance to win than CLee without bringing up the money savings. Which is just plain stupid. Of course most Sox fans think Erstad is a good player when healthy.

 

This. The trade was a salary dump. Though it was Iguchi, not Contreras they cleared money for. Contreras was acquired at the deadline of '04.

[Bote McBoteface]

I don't really care at all what the White Sox are doing, you guys shouldn't either.

[Cynosure]

I don't really care at all what the White Sox are doing, you guys shouldn't either.

 

Cool opinion, I don't share it.

[killthegoat06]

I don't really care at all what the White Sox are doing, you guys shouldn't either.

 

While I agree with you (I couldn't care less about the sox), it's their opinion and they can do whatever they want.

[Bote McBoteface]

I don't really care at all what the White Sox are doing, you guys shouldn't either.

 

Cool opinion, I don't share it.

 

They play in a different league. Their level of play has zero effect on us. We play eachother 6 times a year. For those 6 games, it's ok to care about them. After that, it's kind of stupid imo.

 

Plus, they've won a world series recently. Until we do the same, they have bragging rights regardless of how good or bad either team is doing.

[J.R.]

On the same day!

 

And the Cardinals/Brewers lose... what a glorious day!

 

This is just the kind of useless posting that I can support. Wholeheartedly.

[JonnyRed]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

 

Well, argue about chemistry all you want, but the year after that trade the White Sox won the World Series. If Jim Hendry could make a trade like that, even if for a worse player, would you really argue?

 

 

It freed up money to get Contreras and OHernandez. Those 2 guys had career years as did Podsednik. What Sox fans are doing in their revisionist history is saying that Podsednik gave them a better chance to win than CLee without bringing up the money savings. Which is just plain stupid. Of course most Sox fans think Erstad is a good player when healthy.

 

It reminds me of a long-running debate I've had with my Sox-loving father-in-law who to this day...and some 550 HR later...he still proclaims that the George Bell for Sammy trade was worthwhile because the Sox were in a playoff push. Of course, a number of 40+ HR seasons would have possibly helped the Sox win more division titles throughout the 90s.

[SouthSideRyan]

Both teams took a chance on a guy who had though to be done, and then put up great numbers, Dye for the Sox, Jones for the Cubs.

I don't ever recall getting the sense that people here believed Jones was 'done'. They just thought he wasn't worth the money.

 

One major difference between the two is that our GM didn't trade one of our best hitters for a below-average leadoff hitter and trumpet it as a smart move.

 

Well, argue about chemistry all you want, but the year after that trade the White Sox won the World Series. If Jim Hendry could make a trade like that, even if for a worse player, would you really argue?

 

 

It freed up money to get Contreras and OHernandez. Those 2 guys had career years as did Podsednik. What Sox fans are doing in their revisionist history is saying that Podsednik gave them a better chance to win than CLee without bringing up the money savings. Which is just plain stupid. Of course most Sox fans think Erstad is a good player when healthy.

 

It reminds me of a long-running debate I've had with my Sox-loving father-in-law who to this day...and some 550 HR later...he still proclaims that the George Bell for Sammy trade was worthwhile because the Sox were in a playoff push. Of course, a number of 40+ HR seasons would have possibly helped the Sox win more division titles throughout the 90s.

 

Sosa was probably immediately more valuable. And he was certainly a better player in '93. What an amazing trade.

 

By Larry Himes...

[KenCub]

White Sox are now only one game "behind" Tampa Bay for the worst record in all of MLB.

It really is hard to believe how far and how fast they've fallen.

[BigbadB]

White Sox are now only one game "behind" Tampa Bay for the worst record in all of MLB.

It really is hard to believe how far and how fast they've fallen.

 

Not when you consider the fact they find value in guys like Erstad and Podsednik.