8/6 Cubs(Hill) @ Astros(Rodriguez) 7:05 P.M. CT CSN

[jersey cubs fan]

on the one hand, i'm glad Murton is in there

 

on the other, i hate the undue pressure he's under to perform every time he starts or else be banished to the bench for 5 more games

 

Hahahaha :lol:

 

He is a professional athlete, if he can't handle the pressure he should work as a toll booth operator or something. Jeez, the excuses are already starting to roll before the game even starts. Would be nice to see him step up and force Lou to play him.

 

are Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez under the pressure of going 3 for 4 with no errors every game?

 

I know that's not really the argument you want to make, is it Derwood? I mean, Murton has the potential - or more importantly has shown in the past - that he can be a dependable Major League outfielder. But Aramis or Lee?

 

It's not about whether he can duplicate their careers. It's about the fact that ballplayers should not be judged on any one game, and shouldn't have undue pressure on performing in any one game, or even a handful of games. It's bad enough when teams do this with 1st year players, but with guys who have already produced in the majors? It's even more ridiculous.

[badger1679666666]

Oh God, Cedeno hitting second?

 

Batting order has been proven to not matter a whole lot over the course of a season.

 

Why do people freak out about it so much? I don't care where he's batting, I don't want him in the lineup.

[badger1679666666]

Theroit SS

 

At first I thought it was a typo, but then you kept doing it. It's:

 

Theriot or The Riot!! if you so choose.

[illiniguy]

no pie or patterson.

[CUBZ99]

on the one hand, i'm glad Murton is in there

 

on the other, i hate the undue pressure he's under to perform every time he starts or else be banished to the bench for 5 more games

 

Hahahaha :lol:

 

He is a professional athlete, if he can't handle the pressure he should work as a toll booth operator or something. Jeez, the excuses are already starting to roll before the game even starts. Would be nice to see him step up and force Lou to play him.

 

Whether or not you want to admit it, expecting baseball players to produce IN THIS GAME RIGHT NOW TODAY or be labelled as not getting the job done is just asinine. That's how they've dealt with Murton this year. You simply can't hand a guy a game, or even 3-4 games, and say you better capitalize on your opportunity. Playing time should be doled out based on reasonable expectations of future performance, not how you did last week.

 

Unfortunately, Baseball is a performance driven sport. There are hundreds of hungry players that want to steal your job at the first opportunity. I agree that you can't expect players to produce in the first 3-4 games, but Murton does not fall into the "only got 3-4 games to produce" category.

 

I truly hope he comes out fighting for a spot tonight and catches fire. The Cubs could really use his second half numbers from last year with Soriano out.

[Shilzzz]

on the one hand, i'm glad Murton is in there

 

on the other, i hate the undue pressure he's under to perform every time he starts or else be banished to the bench for 5 more games

 

Hahahaha :lol:

 

He is a professional athlete, if he can't handle the pressure he should work as a toll booth operator or something. Jeez, the excuses are already starting to roll before the game even starts. Would be nice to see him step up and force Lou to play him.

 

are Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez under the pressure of going 3 for 4 with no errors every game?

 

I know that's not really the argument you want to make, is it Derwood? I mean, Murton has the potential - or more importantly has shown in the past - that he can be a dependable Major League outfielder. But Aramis or Lee?

 

It's not about whether he can duplicate their careers. It's about the fact that ballplayers should not be judged on any one game, and shouldn't have undue pressure on performing in any one game, or even a handful of games. It's bad enough when teams do this with 1st year players, but with guys who have already produced in the majors? It's even more ridiculous.

 

I understand that. You did see where I said that, right? What I am saying is that it's not fair to say Murton should have as little pressure to perform as Lee or Ramirez. In my opinion, no one on this team should not be under significant pressure, excluding the two previously mentioned and Soriano. Murton should certainly be getting more of a fair shake than he is, but he also is not yet an all-star by any means.

[jersey cubs fan]

Unfortunately, Baseball is a performance driven sport. There are hundreds of hungry players that want to steal your job at the first opportunity. I agree that you can't expect players to produce in the first 3-4 games, but Murton does not fall into the "only got 3-4 games to produce" category.

 

I truly hope he comes out fighting for a spot tonight and catches fire. The Cubs could really use his second half numbers from last year with Soriano out.

 

Actually, baseball is a perception, myth and nostalgia driven sport, if people analyzed performance better, there'd be fewer stupid roster decisions.

 

 

Murton was given more than 3-4 games to perform, and he did, last year. But he wasn't given a chance this year, and has been labelled a failure anyway by people who pretend baseball is about fighting for positions.

Edited August 6, 2007 by jersey cubs fan

[jersey cubs fan]

I understand that. You did see where I said that, right? What I am saying is that it's not fair to say Murton should have as little pressure to perform as Lee or Ramirez.

 

He should have less. Those guys get paid a lot more and should produce a hell of a lot more. Smart teams, like Atlanta, give spots to kids and let them work through the kinks.

[Keener98]

on the one hand, i'm glad Murton is in there

 

on the other, i hate the undue pressure he's under to perform every time he starts or else be banished to the bench for 5 more games

 

Hahahaha :lol:

 

He is a professional athlete, if he can't handle the pressure he should work as a toll booth operator or something. Jeez, the excuses are already starting to roll before the game even starts. Would be nice to see him step up and force Lou to play him.

 

Whether or not you want to admit it, expecting baseball players to produce IN THIS GAME RIGHT NOW TODAY or be labelled as not getting the job done is just asinine. That's how they've dealt with Murton this year. You simply can't hand a guy a game, or even 3-4 games, and say you better capitalize on your opportunity. Playing time should be doled out based on reasonable expectations of future performance, not how you did last week.

 

Unfortunately, Baseball is a performance driven sport. There are hundreds of hungry players that want to steal your job at the first opportunity. I agree that you can't expect players to produce in the first 3-4 games, but Murton does not fall into the "only got 3-4 games to produce" category.

 

I truly hope he comes out fighting for a spot tonight and catches fire. The Cubs could really use his second half numbers from last year with Soriano out.

 

Then why is Marquis still starting? That sentence is not true at all. There are alot of factors that go into playing besides performance.

[Jazz]

i hope to see epatt pinc hit tonight

 

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[Flames24Rulz]

Here's to starting this road trip on a good note.

[Keener98]

Len and Bob just said EPatt will probably be in LF tomorrow night. Wow, dont we have any shortstops they want to try in the OF?

[98navigator]

In other news, Len just said that Rich Hill is getting the lowest run support in the Major Leagues. :shock:

 

I knew it was the lowest on the team but I had no idea it was that bad...

[OleMissCub]

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[Keener98]

Error on Biggio

[killthegoat06]

Let's go Cubs!

[inari]

Alright, let's get a first inning lead so Rich Hill can relax a bit.

[CubmanPi]

He didn't even pull his quad!

[Guancous]

I love Murton because he was one of the best players on last year's team. He's not one of the best players on this year's team. He might get a chance to shine during Soriano's 'vacation'.

[jjgman21]

why is it so wet?

[illiniguy]

Need to get Rony in Aramis.

[inari]

Pathetic.

[Alfonso Soriano]

Nice swing.

[illiniguy]

oh well we didn't want to score anyways.

[Exile on Waveland]

on the one hand, i'm glad Murton is in there

 

on the other, i hate the undue pressure he's under to perform every time he starts or else be banished to the bench for 5 more games

 

Hahahaha :lol:

 

He is a professional athlete, if he can't handle the pressure he should work as a toll booth operator or something. Jeez, the excuses are already starting to roll before the game even starts. Would be nice to see him step up and force Lou to play him.

 

Whether or not you want to admit it, expecting baseball players to produce IN THIS GAME RIGHT NOW TODAY or be labelled as not getting the job done is just asinine. That's how they've dealt with Murton this year. You simply can't hand a guy a game, or even 3-4 games, and say you better capitalize on your opportunity. Playing time should be doled out based on reasonable expectations of future performance, not how you did last week.

 

Unfortunately, Baseball is a performance driven sport. There are hundreds of hungry players that want to steal your job at the first opportunity. I agree that you can't expect players to produce in the first 3-4 games, but Murton does not fall into the "only got 3-4 games to produce" category.

 

I truly hope he comes out fighting for a spot tonight and catches fire. The Cubs could really use his second half numbers from last year with Soriano out.

 

You're right. Murton didn't get 3-4 games to produce. He got a full year. And he DID produce. That's why he should be playing, and should've been all year.