Question on potential waiver wire help

[windycityfan]

I believe it was two or three seasons ago when Manny Ramirez cleared waivers while Stonie made an appearance on national TV calling for the Cubs to deal for him. Last season it was Andruw Jones as another big name/big help who could have become available this route.

 

This said, what factors drive having these 'marquee' players being put in waivers? Based upon such triggers, any scenarios out there which could bring the kind of help not filled by yesterday's deadline?

[Derwood]

I believe it was two or three seasons ago when Manny Ramirez cleared waivers while Stonie made an appearance on national TV calling for the Cubs to deal for him. Last season it was Andruw Jones as another big name/big help who could have become available this route.

 

This said, what factors drive having these 'marquee' players being put in waivers? Based upon such triggers, any scenarios out there which could bring the kind of help not filled by yesterday's deadline?

 

teams put whole blocks of players onto waivers to mask which players they want to deal. If the Cubs wanted to move, say, Rich Hill after the non-waiver deadline, they'd put him on waivers along with Lee, Murton, Ramirez, Kendall and Dempster (for example) in hopes of having him clear while not tipping their hand as to what player might be on the block

[jersey cubs fan]

I believe it was two or three seasons ago when Manny Ramirez cleared waivers while Stonie made an appearance on national TV calling for the Cubs to deal for him. Last season it was Andruw Jones as another big name/big help who could have become available this route.

 

This said, what factors drive having these 'marquee' players being put in waivers? Based upon such triggers, any scenarios out there which could bring the kind of help not filled by yesterday's deadline?

 

teams put whole blocks of players onto waivers to mask which players they want to deal. If the Cubs wanted to move, say, Rich Hill after the non-waiver deadline, they'd put him on waivers along with Lee, Murton, Ramirez, Kendall and Dempster (for example) in hopes of having him clear while not tipping their hand as to what player might be on the block

 

But in the case of Manny, and others, teams are looking to get out from under a contract, spark a trade market, or possibly light a fire under the player.

[Derwood]

I believe it was two or three seasons ago when Manny Ramirez cleared waivers while Stonie made an appearance on national TV calling for the Cubs to deal for him. Last season it was Andruw Jones as another big name/big help who could have become available this route.

 

This said, what factors drive having these 'marquee' players being put in waivers? Based upon such triggers, any scenarios out there which could bring the kind of help not filled by yesterday's deadline?

 

teams put whole blocks of players onto waivers to mask which players they want to deal. If the Cubs wanted to move, say, Rich Hill after the non-waiver deadline, they'd put him on waivers along with Lee, Murton, Ramirez, Kendall and Dempster (for example) in hopes of having him clear while not tipping their hand as to what player might be on the block

 

But in the case of Manny, and others, teams are looking to get out from under a contract, spark a trade market, or possibly light a fire under the player.

 

that too.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

There's been some speculation that Tejada could clear waivers given his injury and contract.

 

Guys that often clear waivers are players with large contracts that not everyone can afford to absorb. Teams are a little reluctant to try to claim a player with a large contract in fear that they might get stuck with him...ala San Diego with Randy Myers a few years back.

[YearofDaCubs]

There's been some speculation that Tejada could clear waivers given his injury and contract.

 

Guys that often clear waivers are players with large contracts that not everyone can afford to absorb. Teams are a little reluctant to try to claim a player with a large contract in fear that they might get stuck with him...ala San Diego with Randy Myers a few years back.

Say if that were to happen and we end up with him, this is what I would envision:

 

Soriano - LF

Theriot - 2B

Lee - 1B

ARam - 3B

Tejada - SS

DeRosa - RF

Jones - CF

Kendall - C

PITCHER

 

I like it!

[Cubfan_N_nebraska]

There's been some speculation that Tejada could clear waivers given his injury and contract.

 

Guys that often clear waivers are players with large contracts that not everyone can afford to absorb. Teams are a little reluctant to try to claim a player with a large contract in fear that they might get stuck with him...ala San Diego with Randy Myers a few years back.

 

So a deal for someone like a Griffey is not out of the question yet! It's doubtful but that's what makes this game so fun it's the you never know situations.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

There's been some speculation that Tejada could clear waivers given his injury and contract.

 

Guys that often clear waivers are players with large contracts that not everyone can afford to absorb. Teams are a little reluctant to try to claim a player with a large contract in fear that they might get stuck with him...ala San Diego with Randy Myers a few years back.

 

So a deal for someone like a Griffey is not out of the question yet! It's doubtful but that's what makes this game so fun it's the you never know situations.

 

It's very possible. The higher profile guys are less likely to bring as good of a return after 7/31 because the players going back have to clear waivers as well. In other words, even if Teixeira cleared waivers for the Braves, somebody would have claimed Saltalamacchia before Texas had a chance. I don't think cash is a consideration either.

 

So a deal for Griffey pre-7/31 could have been something like Pie+Marshall+Veal for Griffey+cash whereas a post-7/31 deal would look more like Coats+Mateo+Nannini for Griffey. Not a good return, but it would get them out from under Griffey's really bad contract.

[NCCubFan]

There's been some speculation that Tejada could clear waivers given his injury and contract.

 

Guys that often clear waivers are players with large contracts that not everyone can afford to absorb. Teams are a little reluctant to try to claim a player with a large contract in fear that they might get stuck with him...ala San Diego with Randy Myers a few years back.

I also remember a time several years ago that his then-current team put Jose Canseco on waivers to trade him. A competitor of the team he wouls have been traded to claimed him to block the trade, assuming that his current team would simply retract the waivers. Instead, they allowed the waiver claim, and the team claiming him therefore was stuck paying the salary of a player they didn't even have a spot for in the lineup. That's the risk teams take when claiming a player they don't really want just to block a competitor from trading for him.

[jersey cubs fan]

There's been some speculation that Tejada could clear waivers given his injury and contract.

 

Guys that often clear waivers are players with large contracts that not everyone can afford to absorb. Teams are a little reluctant to try to claim a player with a large contract in fear that they might get stuck with him...ala San Diego with Randy Myers a few years back.

I also remember a time several years ago that his then-current team put Jose Canseco on waivers to trade him. A competitor of the team he wouls have been traded to claimed him to block the trade, assuming that his current team would simply retract the waivers. Instead, they allowed the waiver claim, and the team claiming him therefore was stuck paying the salary of a player they didn't even have a spot for in the lineup. That's the risk teams take when claiming a player they don't really want just to block a competitor from trading for him.

 

Thats' how he ended up a Yankee.

[NCCubFan]

There's been some speculation that Tejada could clear waivers given his injury and contract.

 

Guys that often clear waivers are players with large contracts that not everyone can afford to absorb. Teams are a little reluctant to try to claim a player with a large contract in fear that they might get stuck with him...ala San Diego with Randy Myers a few years back.

I also remember a time several years ago that his then-current team put Jose Canseco on waivers to trade him. A competitor of the team he wouls have been traded to claimed him to block the trade, assuming that his current team would simply retract the waivers. Instead, they allowed the waiver claim, and the team claiming him therefore was stuck paying the salary of a player they didn't even have a spot for in the lineup. That's the risk teams take when claiming a player they don't really want just to block a competitor from trading for him.

 

Thats' how he ended up a Yankee.

I couldn't remember the specific teams involved, but that sounds quite likely. Maybe they were trying to keep him from the Red Sox (although I don't remember if the Red Sox were their main competition that year).

[Flames24Rulz]

There's been some speculation that Tejada could clear waivers given his injury and contract.

 

Guys that often clear waivers are players with large contracts that not everyone can afford to absorb. Teams are a little reluctant to try to claim a player with a large contract in fear that they might get stuck with him...ala San Diego with Randy Myers a few years back.

 

So a deal for someone like a Griffey is not out of the question yet! It's doubtful but that's what makes this game so fun it's the you never know situations.

 

Griffey did clear waivers, IIRC, in 2005.

[seanimal]

If Griffey is put on the waiver wire this year I'm going to explode.

[Cubfan_N_nebraska]

There's been some speculation that Tejada could clear waivers given his injury and contract.

 

Guys that often clear waivers are players with large contracts that not everyone can afford to absorb. Teams are a little reluctant to try to claim a player with a large contract in fear that they might get stuck with him...ala San Diego with Randy Myers a few years back.

 

So a deal for someone like a Griffey is not out of the question yet! It's doubtful but that's what makes this game so fun it's the you never know situations.

 

Griffey did clear waivers, IIRC, in 2005.

 

2005 was one of those injury plagued years for JR wasn't it!

Wasn't it a few years ago where a GM ( I can't remember who) practically put the whole 25 man roster on waivers to gauge the interest to see who was interest in who and what he might get in exchange for them. Who can forget the Devil Rays sticking to the Yankee's a few years back with Canseco that was great!

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Here are some players with large contracts that could clear waivers...

 

Troy Glaus (10.75 for 07; 12.75 for 08)

Scott Rolen (12 for 07; 12 for 09; 12 for 10, 12 for 11)

Ray Durham (7 fo 07; 7.5 for 08)

Miguel Tejada (12 for 07; 13 for 08; 13 for 09)

Pat Burrell (13 for 07; 13 for 08)

Ken Griffey (12.5 for 07; 12.5 for 08; 4 million buyout on 16.5 09 option)

Javier Vasquez (11.5 for 08; 11.5 for 09; 11.5 for 10)

 

There also could be others without the big contracts. I'm fairly certain Sosa will clear. The Rangers probably let anyone claiming him have him.

 

While all of the above players have value, teams would have to have room for them in order to absorb the contracts. I don't think the teams who have those players would actually trade all of them, but those are the type of contracts that can often get through the waiver wire.

[seanimal]

Is it a foregone conclusion that Sosa will be put on waivers? I doubt Hendry would make the move and it's not certain that he would make it all the way to us anyway, but that sure would be interesting.

[Cubfan_N_nebraska]

Here are some players with large contracts that could clear waivers...

 

Troy Glaus (10.75 for 07; 12.75 for 08)

Scott Rolen (12 for 07; 12 for 09; 12 for 10, 12 for 11)

Ray Durham (7 fo 07; 7.5 for 08)

Miguel Tejada (12 for 07; 13 for 08; 13 for 09)

Pat Burrell (13 for 07; 13 for 08)

Ken Griffey (12.5 for 07; 12.5 for 08; 4 million buyout on 16.5 09 option)

Javier Vasquez (11.5 for 08; 11.5 for 09; 11.5 for 10)

 

There also could be others without the big contracts. I'm fairly certain Sosa will clear. The Rangers probably let anyone claiming him have him.

 

While all of the above players have value, teams would have to have room for them in order to absorb the contracts. I don't think the teams who have those players would actually trade all of them, but those are the type of contracts that can often get through the waiver wire.

 

 

 

Wouldn't shock me to see 1 or 2 on that list being moved Glaus or Burrell; long shots would be Griffey, Vasquez.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Is it a foregone conclusion that Sosa will be put on waivers? I doubt Hendry would make the move and it's not certain that he would make it all the way to us anyway, but that sure would be interesting.

 

The Rangers would love to move him, so I can't see JD not putting him out there.

[Rob]

Is it a foregone conclusion that Sosa will be put on waivers? I doubt Hendry would make the move and it's not certain that he would make it all the way to us anyway, but that sure would be interesting.

 

Almost everybody is put on waivers.

[BigbadB]

There's been some speculation that Tejada could clear waivers given his injury and contract.

 

Guys that often clear waivers are players with large contracts that not everyone can afford to absorb. Teams are a little reluctant to try to claim a player with a large contract in fear that they might get stuck with him...ala San Diego with Randy Myers a few years back.

 

San Diego didn't want Randy Myers. They didn't want the Dodgers or Giants (can't remember which team) to have him, so they claimed him. It sort of worked considering the Padres won the division. But, San Diego did pay Myers for the rest of 1998 for 14 innings of work, and nearly another 14m combined for 1999 and 2000 for 0 innings pitched. Ouch.

[Bruno7481]

Sosa was given the option of taking his release today and he declined. The Rangers don't want him and apparently neither does anybody else.

[soccer10k]

Here are some players with large contracts that could clear waivers...

 

Troy Glaus (10.75 for 07; 12.75 for 08)

Scott Rolen (12 for 07; 12 for 09; 12 for 10, 12 for 11)

Ray Durham (7 fo 07; 7.5 for 08)

Miguel Tejada (12 for 07; 13 for 08; 13 for 09)

Pat Burrell (13 for 07; 13 for 08)

Ken Griffey (12.5 for 07; 12.5 for 08; 4 million buyout on 16.5 09 option)

Javier Vasquez (11.5 for 08; 11.5 for 09; 11.5 for 10)

 

There also could be others without the big contracts. I'm fairly certain Sosa will clear. The Rangers probably let anyone claiming him have him.

 

While all of the above players have value, teams would have to have room for them in order to absorb the contracts. I don't think the teams who have those players would actually trade all of them, but those are the type of contracts that can often get through the waiver wire.

 

 

 

Wouldn't shock me to see 1 or 2 on that list being moved Glaus or Burrell; long shots would be Griffey, Vasquez.

 

Why would the Phillies want to get rid of Burrell now?

[nilodnayr]

Here are some players with large contracts that could clear waivers...

 

Troy Glaus (10.75 for 07; 12.75 for 08)

Scott Rolen (12 for 07; 12 for 09; 12 for 10, 12 for 11)

Ray Durham (7 fo 07; 7.5 for 08)

Miguel Tejada (12 for 07; 13 for 08; 13 for 09)

Pat Burrell (13 for 07; 13 for 08)

Ken Griffey (12.5 for 07; 12.5 for 08; 4 million buyout on 16.5 09 option)

Javier Vasquez (11.5 for 08; 11.5 for 09; 11.5 for 10)

 

There also could be others without the big contracts. I'm fairly certain Sosa will clear. The Rangers probably let anyone claiming him have him.

 

While all of the above players have value, teams would have to have room for them in order to absorb the contracts. I don't think the teams who have those players would actually trade all of them, but those are the type of contracts that can often get through the waiver wire.

 

 

 

Wouldn't shock me to see 1 or 2 on that list being moved Glaus or Burrell; long shots would be Griffey, Vasquez.

 

 

Why would the Phillies want to get rid of Burrell now?

 

He hates it in Philly, they hate him in Philly, they have an inhouse cheap replacement, and ohh yeah, 13 million other reasons. They've been trying to give him away for free for years.

[CubFanPhilly]

Here are some players with large contracts that could clear waivers...

 

Troy Glaus (10.75 for 07; 12.75 for 08)

Scott Rolen (12 for 07; 12 for 09; 12 for 10, 12 for 11)

Ray Durham (7 fo 07; 7.5 for 08)

Miguel Tejada (12 for 07; 13 for 08; 13 for 09)

Pat Burrell (13 for 07; 13 for 08)

Ken Griffey (12.5 for 07; 12.5 for 08; 4 million buyout on 16.5 09 option)

Javier Vasquez (11.5 for 08; 11.5 for 09; 11.5 for 10)

 

There also could be others without the big contracts. I'm fairly certain Sosa will clear. The Rangers probably let anyone claiming him have him.

 

While all of the above players have value, teams would have to have room for them in order to absorb the contracts. I don't think the teams who have those players would actually trade all of them, but those are the type of contracts that can often get through the waiver wire.

 

 

 

Wouldn't shock me to see 1 or 2 on that list being moved Glaus or Burrell; long shots would be Griffey, Vasquez.

 

 

Why would the Phillies want to get rid of Burrell now?

 

He hates it in Philly, they hate him in Philly, they have an inhouse cheap replacement, and ohh yeah, 13 million other reasons. They've been trying to give him away for free for years.

 

It's a valid question. The Phillies are still in the playoff chase. Hated or not, under those circumstances you don't dump a productive player without getting something in return.

 

Also, I don't recall Burrell ever saying anything about hating to play in Philly.

[nilodnayr]

Here are some players with large contracts that could clear waivers...

 

Troy Glaus (10.75 for 07; 12.75 for 08)

Scott Rolen (12 for 07; 12 for 09; 12 for 10, 12 for 11)

Ray Durham (7 fo 07; 7.5 for 08)

Miguel Tejada (12 for 07; 13 for 08; 13 for 09)

Pat Burrell (13 for 07; 13 for 08)

Ken Griffey (12.5 for 07; 12.5 for 08; 4 million buyout on 16.5 09 option)

Javier Vasquez (11.5 for 08; 11.5 for 09; 11.5 for 10)

 

There also could be others without the big contracts. I'm fairly certain Sosa will clear. The Rangers probably let anyone claiming him have him.

 

While all of the above players have value, teams would have to have room for them in order to absorb the contracts. I don't think the teams who have those players would actually trade all of them, but those are the type of contracts that can often get through the waiver wire.

 

 

 

Wouldn't shock me to see 1 or 2 on that list being moved Glaus or Burrell; long shots would be Griffey, Vasquez.

 

 

Why would the Phillies want to get rid of Burrell now?

 

He hates it in Philly, they hate him in Philly, they have an inhouse cheap replacement, and ohh yeah, 13 million other reasons. They've been trying to give him away for free for years.

 

It's a valid question. The Phillies are still in the playoff chase. Hated or not, under those circumstances you don't dump a productive player without getting something in return.

 

Also, I don't recall Burrell ever saying anything about hating to play in Philly.

 

Victorino on the DL and Bourn nicked up definitely hurts the immediate situation. It will all really depend on how they do the next week. Philly however, is definitely not an only this year team and they will be thinking of having that $ to do something (possibly at 3B) for next year.