Carpenter to have TJ

[hardcorecubfan]

just reported, darn :roll:

 

ESPN said they Cards have officially shut him down, and will be going under the knife

[E.J.]

Wow. That's a big loss. I'm guessing the Cards are wishing they didn't give him that big contract in the offseason now.

[apete6]

Looks like Satan cashed in on his end of the deal...

[hardcorecubfan]

Wow. That's a big loss. I'm guessing the Cards are wishing they didn't give him that big contract in the offseason now.

 

almost sounds what we would do, sign a huge contract then they are out.

at least that was the old Cubs (knock on wood)

[fiver]

Wow. That's a big loss. I'm guessing the Cards are wishing they didn't give him that big contract in the offseason now.

 

almost sounds what we would do, sign a huge contract then they are out.

at least that was the old Cubs ( remember wood?)

 

fixed

Edited July 20, 2007 by fiver

[fiver]

double post Edited July 20, 2007 by fiver

[hardcorecubfan]

Wow. That's a big loss. I'm guessing the Cards are wishing they didn't give him that big contract in the offseason now.

 

almost sounds what we would do, sign a huge contract then they are out.

at least that was the old Cubs ( remember wood)

 

fixed

 

*L*

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Chris Carpenter p

5 years/$63.5M (2007-11), plus $15M 2012 club option

 

* signed extension through 2011 12/06

o 07:$8.5M, 08:$10.5M, 09:$14M, 10:$14.5M, 11:$15M, 12:$15M club option ($1M buyout)

o replaces final year & 2008 option from previous contract

o $8M deferred without interest ($2M annually, 2009-12)

o award bonuses: $0.25M for Cy Young ($0.1M for 2nd-3rd place, $50,000 for 4th-5th), $50,000 each for All Star selection, MVP, Gold Glove or LDS, LCS or WS MVP

 

 

Yikes. They're guaranteeing Edmonds (.702 OPS) 8 million next year and Rolen (.709 OPS) 12 million through 2010 too.

[Balsa]

Ouch that's bad.

[Banedon]

Wow...what was the surgery he came back from before? I thought that was TJ...

 

EDIT: Sorry hardcorecubfan, I edited the thread title to capitalize...it was driving me nuts.

Edited July 20, 2007 by Banedon

[Roast]

Chris Carpenter p

5 years/$63.5M (2007-11), plus $15M 2012 club option

 

* signed extension through 2011 12/06

o 07:$8.5M, 08:$10.5M, 09:$14M, 10:$14.5M, 11:$15M, 12:$15M club option ($1M buyout)

o replaces final year & 2008 option from previous contract

o $8M deferred without interest ($2M annually, 2009-12)

o award bonuses: $0.25M for Cy Young ($0.1M for 2nd-3rd place, $50,000 for 4th-5th), $50,000 each for All Star selection, MVP, Gold Glove or LDS, LCS or WS MVP

 

 

Yikes. They're guaranteeing Edmonds (.702 OPS) 8 million next year and Rolen (.709 OPS) 12 million through 2010 too.

 

Haha, poor cardinals. I would almost feel bad for them if this wasn't just so hilarious.

[NCCubFan]

Wow...what was the surgery he came back from before? I thought that was TJ...

I thought it was shoulder surgery (maybe labrum).

[Guancous]

Chris Carpenter p

5 years/$63.5M (2007-11), plus $15M 2012 club option.

 

Yikes. They're guaranteeing Edmonds (.702 OPS) 8 million next year and Rolen (.709 OPS) 12 million through 2010 too.

 

Haha, poor cardinals. I would almost feel bad for them if this wasn't just so hilarious.

 

Walt Jocketty mortgaged the future to win the World Series. I wish Hendry would do the same. The trouble comes when you mortgage the future and miss the championship.

[Mephistopheles]

Wow...what was the surgery he came back from before? I thought that was TJ...

I thought it was shoulder surgery (maybe labrum).

 

yes, torn labrum.

[Mephistopheles]

Chris Carpenter p

5 years/$63.5M (2007-11), plus $15M 2012 club option.

 

Yikes. They're guaranteeing Edmonds (.702 OPS) 8 million next year and Rolen (.709 OPS) 12 million through 2010 too.

 

Haha, poor cardinals. I would almost feel bad for them if this wasn't just so hilarious.

 

Walt Jocketty mortgaged the future to win the World Series. I wish Hendry would do the same. The trouble comes when you mortgage the future and miss the championship.

 

No he didn't. He mortgaged the future because he's not that great of a GM.

[KingCubsFan]

Chris Carpenter p

5 years/$63.5M (2007-11), plus $15M 2012 club option.

 

Yikes. They're guaranteeing Edmonds (.702 OPS) 8 million next year and Rolen (.709 OPS) 12 million through 2010 too.

 

Haha, poor cardinals. I would almost feel bad for them if this wasn't just so hilarious.

 

Walt Jocketty mortgaged the future to win the World Series. I wish Hendry would do the same. The trouble comes when you mortgage the future and miss the championship.

 

No he didn't. He mortgaged the future because he's not that great of a GM.

Yet, they manage to win the division every year. Strange how that works

[NCCubFan]

Chris Carpenter p

5 years/$63.5M (2007-11), plus $15M 2012 club option.

 

Yikes. They're guaranteeing Edmonds (.702 OPS) 8 million next year and Rolen (.709 OPS) 12 million through 2010 too.

 

Haha, poor cardinals. I would almost feel bad for them if this wasn't just so hilarious.

 

Walt Jocketty mortgaged the future to win the World Series. I wish Hendry would do the same. The trouble comes when you mortgage the future and miss the championship.

 

No he didn't. He mortgaged the future because he's not that great of a GM.

Yet, they manage to win the division every year.

Until this year. :D

[rocket]

Chris Carpenter p

5 years/$63.5M (2007-11), plus $15M 2012 club option.

 

Yikes. They're guaranteeing Edmonds (.702 OPS) 8 million next year and Rolen (.709 OPS) 12 million through 2010 too.

 

Haha, poor cardinals. I would almost feel bad for them if this wasn't just so hilarious.

 

Walt Jocketty mortgaged the future to win the World Series. I wish Hendry would do the same. The trouble comes when you mortgage the future and miss the championship.

 

No he didn't. He mortgaged the future because he's not that great of a GM.

 

Yet, they manage to win the division every year. Strange how that works

 

it's not like he's in the same division as the red sox and yankees.

Edited July 20, 2007 by rocket

[Keener98]

Yup that contract sure looks like a disaster right now huh? 1 start 5 ip wow...After all my Card fans friends have given me crap about Wood and Prior though, I sure as hell dont feel sorry for the Cards, and keep tryin to tell myself not to laugh, but its hard.

[KingCubsFan]

Chris Carpenter p

5 years/$63.5M (2007-11), plus $15M 2012 club option.

 

Yikes. They're guaranteeing Edmonds (.702 OPS) 8 million next year and Rolen (.709 OPS) 12 million through 2010 too.

 

Haha, poor cardinals. I would almost feel bad for them if this wasn't just so hilarious.

 

Walt Jocketty mortgaged the future to win the World Series. I wish Hendry would do the same. The trouble comes when you mortgage the future and miss the championship.

 

No he didn't. He mortgaged the future because he's not that great of a GM.

 

Yet, they manage to win the division every year. Strange how that works

 

it's not like he's in the same division as the red sox and yankees.

2002-2006:

Yankees: 497-312

Cardinals: 470-339

Red Sox: 467-343

It would be interesting to see what he could do with an extra 50-100 million in payroll per year

[IWU_CUBS_FAN]

Wow...what was the surgery he came back from before? I thought that was TJ...

I thought it was shoulder surgery (maybe labrum).

yea, i thought he had the thing done to him like prior did cuz i kno i heard some comparisons to carpenter when it was announced prior had some stuff fixed up

[abuck1220]

Chris Carpenter p

5 years/$63.5M (2007-11), plus $15M 2012 club option.

 

Yikes. They're guaranteeing Edmonds (.702 OPS) 8 million next year and Rolen (.709 OPS) 12 million through 2010 too.

 

Haha, poor cardinals. I would almost feel bad for them if this wasn't just so hilarious.

 

Walt Jocketty mortgaged the future to win the World Series. I wish Hendry would do the same. The trouble comes when you mortgage the future and miss the championship.

 

No he didn't. He mortgaged the future because he's not that great of a GM.

 

Yet, they manage to win the division every year. Strange how that works

 

it's not like he's in the same division as the red sox and yankees.

2002-2006:

Yankees: 497-312

Cardinals: 470-339

Red Sox: 467-343

It would be interesting to see what he could do with an extra 50-100 million in payroll per year

 

those numbers don't help your argument, by the way.

[XZero771679666304]

I am no admirer of WJ, but the NL central has produced the NL world series representative the past 3 years.

 

2 of those 3 resulted in sweep losses, and the playoffs are largely a crapshoot, but it's not like the NL Central has been little league or anything.

[Derwood]

if this were the Cubs, they'd try pitching Carpenter in September and then not put him under the knife until next spring

[SouthSideRyan]

Mortgaging the future to win the world series = one horrible trade 2 years prior?