Biggio...first ballot HoFer?

[bluestainedivy]

Alright...I've been discussing this issue on another forum. Does Craig Biggio make it into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot? Most people say that his 3,000 hits will make him an automatic first-ballot inductee. Bear in mind these people are mostly from the Houston area so in my mind they were pretty biased. That's why I decided to bring it here to see what opinions were outside the state of TX.

 

So, is Biggio a first-ballot HoFer?

 

I say no...

 

1) He played for a small market team

2) He struggled mightily in post-season play

3) HoF voters are pretty strict.

[Warren Brusstar]

He should be a mortal lock.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

YES.... moving on.

[Pushfrog98]

take away the battle armor he wears on his elbow (which forces him to step away from the plate and not get hit so many times) and I think his hits go way down.

 

no to first ballot.

[tkenm356]

Biggio's numbers during his prime were sick. 3,000 hits will make anyone a first ballot HOF'er unless he's been caught using roids. Biggio will go in.

 

I also hate the "Small-Market Team" argument. Whether or not you play for a small-market team should not determine whether or not your skills were good enough to make it ot the HOF.

[bluestainedivy]

I also hate the "Small-Market Team" argument. Whether or not you play for a small-market team should not determine whether or not your skills were good enough to make it ot the HOF.

 

I do to...but that's what happens in a sports world dominated by ESPN.

[OleMissCub]

EASY

 

3,000 hits, 400+ stolen bases, 280+ homers, 1800+ runs

 

Then look at the intangibles.

- He played for ONE team his entire career.

- Played 3 different positions

- 7 time all-star

- 4 gold gloves

[Rob]

There is absolutely no way he doesn't deserve to get in to the HoF.

[bluestainedivy]

The HoF is not the question...it's whether he gets in on the first vote.

[thedaymen]

I dunno...Biggio was an average player for about half of his career, and well below average during his "adventures in centerfield" portion of his career. I'm sure he'll get in, and I would vote for him on the first ballot, but most sportswriters, and especially HOF voters, are idiots who won't vote for him the first time but will eventually. I mean, Mariotti didn't even vote for Ryno on the first ballot, you think he'll vote for Biggio?

[jersey cubs fan]

EASY

 

3,000 hits, 400+ stolen bases, 280+ homers, 1800+ runs

 

Then look at the intangibles.

- He played for ONE team his entire career.

- Played 3 different positions

- 7 time all-star

- 4 gold gloves

 

0 world series titles.

[OleMissCub]

I mean, Mariotti didn't even vote for Ryno on the first ballot, you think he'll vote for Biggio?

 

Pure, unadulterated, BLASPHEMY

[Banedon]

EASY

 

3,000 hits, 400+ stolen bases, 280+ homers, 1800+ runs

 

Then look at the intangibles.

- He played for ONE team his entire career.

- Played 3 different positions

- 7 time all-star

- 4 gold gloves

 

0 world series titles.

 

That's a team stat though.

[bluestainedivy]

His postseason numbers are lacking...

 

.234 AVG 2 HR 11 RBI

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/biggicr01.shtml

[jersey cubs fan]

EASY

 

3,000 hits, 400+ stolen bases, 280+ homers, 1800+ runs

 

Then look at the intangibles.

- He played for ONE team his entire career.

- Played 3 different positions

- 7 time all-star

- 4 gold gloves

 

0 world series titles.

 

That's a team stat though.

 

Doesn't matter to HOF voters.

[bluestainedivy]

Like I said, HoF voters are very particular.

[CoolHandLuke]

How did he manage to have such a great career so quietly?

 

He is a lock for the hall, but I just don't get a first ballot feeling with him.

[pitchcs]

He WILL NOT be a first ballot HOF'er.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I failry certain he'll go in on first ballot. If he gets the 3000 hits, he'll be a lock.

 

If he misses the 3000 hits, it might take an extra ballot, but with the 3000 he has the key to the door.

[BigbadB]

Come on. If David Eckstein is a guaranteed HOF inductee, Biggio is a lock to go on the first ballot.

[bluestainedivy]

Come on. If David Eckstein is a guaranteed HOF inductee, Biggio is a lock to go on the first ballot.

 

What, for the Sanford, Florida baseball hall of fame?

[OleMissCub]

His postseason numbers are lacking...

 

.234 AVG 2 HR 11 RBI

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/biggicr01.shtml

 

So are Arod's, but that'll be unlikely to make a dent in his votes.

[Soriano12]

If he can hit 16 more HR's in addition to his 3,000 hits he will be only the 2nd player in MLB history with 300HR's, 3,000 hits, & 300 SB's. The other is Mays. He should be a first ballot HOF.

[jersey cubs fan]

His postseason numbers are lacking...

 

.234 AVG 2 HR 11 RBI

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/biggicr01.shtml

 

So are Arod's, but that'll be unlikely to make a dent in his votes.

 

.280/.362/.485 overall

 

.315/.413/.611 in LCS games.

[tkenm356]

Barry Bonds has a .245 career postseason batting average and no world championships. Something tells me he'll eventually get in there