6/5 CUBS (Lilly) @ Brewers (Vargas) 7:05 WGN TV

[98navigator]

Nice way to strand them

[soccer10k]

Thank goodness.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Nice.

[Brian]

:lol: the Cubs will walk Mench this series, it's inevitable

[UMFan83]

31 minute first inning

[badger1679666666]

Lilly has really been average after his great start....which I guess is what we really expected out of him

 

His WHIP is still outstanding though.

 

He has been better than average. That's why.

[Keener98]

Lilly has really been average after his great start....which I guess is what we really expected out of him

 

15 walks through 70+ IP isn't average.

 

So I guess walks is the only way to judge if a pitcher is average or not

[RichHillIsABeast]

There we go.

[C.C.]

30 pitches. shhez!

[badger1679666666]

Lilly has really been average after his great start....which I guess is what we really expected out of him

 

15 walks through 70+ IP isn't average.

 

So I guess walks is the only way to judge if a pitcher is average or not

 

no, but

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=lillyte01&t=p&year=2007

 

shows he has been better than average for 8/11 starts and on his cumulative year stats.

[Exile on Waveland]

Kevin Mench just looks like a Cub

 

Yep, .283 avg and a .285 OBP. Cub-like.

 

*Well, both are slightly lower now.

[RichHillIsABeast]

Lilly has really been average after his great start....which I guess is what we really expected out of him

 

15 walks through 70+ IP isn't average.

 

So I guess walks is the only way to judge if a pitcher is average or not

 

His BAA is also great. His WHIP is great, BB/9 very nice, K/9 spiffy, and he doesn't punch out teammates. I like 2007 Lilly very much.

[Keener98]

Lilly has really been average after his great start....which I guess is what we really expected out of him

 

15 walks through 70+ IP isn't average.

 

So I guess walks is the only way to judge if a pitcher is average or not

 

no, but

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=lillyte01&t=p&year=2007

 

shows he has been better than average for 8/11 starts and on his cumulative year stats.

 

I wasnt saying one way or the other, but to say just because he had only walked 15 people he wasnt average seemed pretty silly to me.

[Brian]

nice clifford

[RichHillIsABeast]

fastball down the middle at the knees. good eye, cliff.

[Brian]

9 pitches and the cubs haven't swung yet :shock:

[alroy88]

Lilly has really been average after his great start....which I guess is what we really expected out of him

 

15 walks through 70+ IP isn't average.

 

So I guess walks is the only way to judge if a pitcher is average or not

 

no, but

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=lillyte01&t=p&year=2007

 

shows he has been better than average for 8/11 starts and on his cumulative year stats.

 

I wasnt saying one way or the other, but to say just because he had only walked 15 people he wasnt average seemed pretty silly to me.

 

i would agree the walk reference alone wouldn't prove much to his above averageness this year, but his low walk total has led to some other solid numbers. i guess we were supposed to infer that because he hasn't walked anyone, the rest of his numbers are also above average.

[Brian]

10 pitches, 1 swing, 2 outs

[jjgman21]

why do opposing pitchers get 3-0 charity strikes like clockwork?

[RichHillIsABeast]

Good AB, Barrett. Waited for a good pitch and gave it a ride.

[badger1679666666]

10 pitches, 1 swing, 2 outs

 

thats 5 pitches/pa. Doesn't everyone here cry about how we aren't patient?

 

I just wish people would realize taking pitches isn't always the best strategy.

[Roast]

10 pitches, 1 swing, 2 outs

 

Better than 2 pitches, 2 swings, 2 outs.

[E.J.]

why do opposing pitchers get 3-0 charity strikes like clockwork?

 

It's not called "walking". It's called "hitting".

[RichHillIsABeast]

20 pushups, right freaking now, Theriot.

[Shilzzz]

why do opposing pitchers get 3-0 charity strikes like clockwork?

 

It's not called "walking". It's called "hitting".

 

iirc, technically it's a plate appearance.