The Chicago Bulls 2007 Offseason Thread

[1908]

Wouldn't Gasol be the best fit after Amare? It seems he'd have an easy time fittin ginto the draw and kick kind of offense as far as passing, movement, etc.

The Grizzlies wanted Deng for him. Not sure why they'd change their minds and accept Gordon at this point. I also think there's a big gap between Amare and Pau. I honestly can't see the Suns letting him go.

[USSoccer]

Wouldn't Gasol be the best fit after Amare? It seems he'd have an easy time fittin ginto the draw and kick kind of offense as far as passing, movement, etc.

The Grizzlies wanted Deng for him. Not sure why they'd change their minds and accept Gordon at this point. I also think there's a big gap between Amare and Pau. I honestly can't see the Suns letting him go.

 

Neither do I, which is why I'd look at Gasol again. The Grizzlies should be tempted to have 2 picks in the top 10 in this draft, plus Gordon and Noc/Duhon.

[1908]

The Grizzlies should be tempted to have 2 picks in the top 10 in this draft, plus Gordon and Noc/Duhon.

Perhaps, but I don't think that'd be enough. Why would their price drop? Teams typically get more value in return in off-season trades then middle of the season ones.

[USSoccer]

The Grizzlies should be tempted to have 2 picks in the top 10 in this draft, plus Gordon and Noc/Duhon.

Perhaps, but I don't think that'd be enough. Why would their price drop? Teams typically get more value in return in off-season trades then middle of the season ones.

 

Maybe not after the Grizz failed to get a top 2 pick. That franchise stinks, and even if they keep Gasol they're going to be bad. If you can get a Gordon plus another top 10 pick, wouldn't that be better than keeping Gasol and drafting 4th just to end up having to shop Pau again in the middle of next season when the team is 15-40?

[1908]

Maybe not after the Grizz failed to get a top 2 pick. That franchise stinks, and even if they keep Gasol they're going to be bad. If you can get a Gordon plus another top 10 pick, wouldn't that be better than keeping Gasol and drafting 4th just to end up having to shop Pau again in the middle of next season when the team is 15-40?

Lots of injuries for the Grizzlies this year. Team averaged 48 wins a season over the past three seasons before 06-07. They'll win a lot more games than 15 next year. No need for a fire sale at all.

[Guest]

I'm not a fan of dealing with Jerry West.

 

It's Stoudemire, maybe Randolph or bust for me (or hope Al Horford falls in the draft and you can trade up).

[SouthSideRyan]

Ya know who would be nice to have?

 

LaMarcus Aldridge.

[1908]

Ya know who would be nice to have?

 

LaMarcus Aldridge.

I'm very happy with Tyrus, but I would've been happy with Aldridge as well.

[Soriano12]

Aldridge has a bum ticker.

[USSoccer]

I'm not a fan of dealing with Jerry West.

 

It's Stoudemire, maybe Randolph or bust for me (or hope Al Horford falls in the draft and you can trade up).

 

Would Minnesota entertain having 2 top 10 picks, Gordon and Noc/Duhon for Garnett, or is McHale too stupid to realize that they need to blow it up?

 

I guess I just don't see anyone falling to 9 that's going to be a low post scoring player within the next couple years. Hibbert is going back to G'Town. Hawes isn't a back to the basket guy. Horford isn't going to fall, and Noah isn't a scorer. Yi isn't going to fall. Josh McRoberts sucks. I don't see how we trade up.

 

Looking at the draft order as it stands,I can see Noah or Hawes being options at 9. Do either of those 2 address the primary problem with the Bulls? Yeah, Noah's energy is great, but is he a guy who draw double teams? Hawes might be Brad Miller v2, but that's not really a low post guy.

[1908]

Hawes isn't a back to the basket guy.

What makes you say that? Post scoring is his strength. One example scouting report:

Skilled big man with advanced low-post moves for a kid his age. Can score with either hand around the basket. Excellent shooter who can play the high post and work the pick and pop. Good passer for a big man. Excellent basketball IQ. As fundamentally sound as any big man in the country.

[bukie]

Hawes isn't a back to the basket guy.

What makes you say that? Post scoring is his strength. One example scouting report:

Skilled big man with advanced low-post moves for a kid his age. Can score with either hand around the basket. Excellent shooter who can play the high post and work the pick and pop. Good passer for a big man. Excellent basketball IQ. As fundamentally sound as any big man in the country.

 

I've heard Hawes projected as a Rik Smits-type. And I'd be OK with that. As long as the Bulls don't end up with another undersized guard or wing player.

[USSoccer]

Hawes isn't a back to the basket guy.

What makes you say that? Post scoring is his strength. One example scouting report:

Skilled big man with advanced low-post moves for a kid his age. Can score with either hand around the basket. Excellent shooter who can play the high post and work the pick and pop. Good passer for a big man. Excellent basketball IQ. As fundamentally sound as any big man in the country.

 

I must have read a completely different scouting report. What does that one have as his weaknesses?

[1908]

Hawes isn't a back to the basket guy.

What makes you say that? Post scoring is his strength. One example scouting report:

Skilled big man with advanced low-post moves for a kid his age. Can score with either hand around the basket. Excellent shooter who can play the high post and work the pick and pop. Good passer for a big man. Excellent basketball IQ. As fundamentally sound as any big man in the country.

I must have read a completely different scouting report. What does that one have as his weaknesses?

Needs to add strength to play in the post. Just an average athlete and rebounder. Struggles as a defender at times against more athletic opponents.

He's saying he needs to add strength to play in the post in the NBA, not surprising at all for a 19-year-old.

[Guest]

I'm not a fan of dealing with Jerry West.

 

It's Stoudemire, maybe Randolph or bust for me (or hope Al Horford falls in the draft and you can trade up).

 

Would Minnesota entertain having 2 top 10 picks, Gordon and Noc/Duhon for Garnett, or is McHale too stupid to realize that they need to blow it up?

 

I guess I just don't see anyone falling to 9 that's going to be a low post scoring player within the next couple years. Hibbert is going back to G'Town. Hawes isn't a back to the basket guy. Horford isn't going to fall, and Noah isn't a scorer. Yi isn't going to fall. Josh McRoberts sucks. I don't see how we trade up.

 

Looking at the draft order as it stands,I can see Noah or Hawes being options at 9. Do either of those 2 address the primary problem with the Bulls? Yeah, Noah's energy is great, but is he a guy who draw double teams? Hawes might be Brad Miller v2, but that's not really a low post guy.

 

Take it from a Pac-10 guy, Hawes has a lot of nice post moves. To me, Noah seems kind of a waste with Tyrus there already.

 

Here's Ford's mock draft:

 

Oden

Durant

Conley

Brewer

Yi

Horford

B. Wright

Noah

Hawes

J. Wright

Hibbert

Green

Thorton

Law

 

He has Horford falling to 6 and I could easily see all 5 of the guys + B. Wright going ahead of Horford. Not as hard to trade up to 6 from 9.

[USSoccer]

I'm not a fan of dealing with Jerry West.

 

It's Stoudemire, maybe Randolph or bust for me (or hope Al Horford falls in the draft and you can trade up).

 

Would Minnesota entertain having 2 top 10 picks, Gordon and Noc/Duhon for Garnett, or is McHale too stupid to realize that they need to blow it up?

 

I guess I just don't see anyone falling to 9 that's going to be a low post scoring player within the next couple years. Hibbert is going back to G'Town. Hawes isn't a back to the basket guy. Horford isn't going to fall, and Noah isn't a scorer. Yi isn't going to fall. Josh McRoberts sucks. I don't see how we trade up.

 

Looking at the draft order as it stands,I can see Noah or Hawes being options at 9. Do either of those 2 address the primary problem with the Bulls? Yeah, Noah's energy is great, but is he a guy who draw double teams? Hawes might be Brad Miller v2, but that's not really a low post guy.

 

Take it from a Pac-10 guy, Hawes has a lot of nice post moves. To me, Noah seems kind of a waste with Tyrus there already.

 

Here's Ford's mock draft:

 

Oden

Durant

Conley

Brewer

Yi

Horford

B. Wright

Noah

Hawes

J. Wright

Hibbert

Green

Thorton

Law

 

He has Horford falling to 6 and I could easily see all 5 of the guys + B. Wright going ahead of Horford. Not as hard to trade up to 6 from 9.

 

-I agree with you on the redundancy of Noah with Thomas around.

 

-Why would Milwaukee trade down to 9?

[Flames24Rulz]

Hibbert and Jeff Green could forego the NBA Draft and stay at Georgetown for one more year: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2879914

[Soriano12]

Hibbert and Jeff Green could forego the NBA Draft and stay at Georgetown for one more year: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2879914

 

that would suck for the Bulls

[1908]

Hibbert and Jeff Green could forego the NBA Draft and stay at Georgetown for one more year: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2879914

that would suck for the Bulls

Why? I don't think either one is a good fit for the Bulls and both are likely to get selected after 9 in the draft. It sucks for teams in the teens, though. Less depth in the draft if it happens.

[Exile on Waveland]

It also would make Georgetown the likely favorite for next year's NCAA Championship. Edited May 23, 2007 by Exile on Waveland

[Soriano12]

Hibbert and Jeff Green could forego the NBA Draft and stay at Georgetown for one more year: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2879914

that would suck for the Bulls

Why? I don't think either one is a good fit for the Bulls and both are likely to get selected after 9 in the draft. It sucks for teams in the teens, though. Less depth in the draft if it happens.

While Green isn't a fit, many mocks had him going before the Bulls pick at 9. Hibbert could be a good fit for the Bulls, either way it shrinkens the pool of talented players when their pick is up at #9

[cubweiser03]

Noah. He's a board favorite. :wink:

I like Thomas better.

Hibbert, i like his game. He did well against Oden offensively. Defensively not as impressive one on one. Wallace should help him down low, same with Thomas.

[1908]

While Green isn't a fit, many mocks had him going before the Bulls pick at 9. Hibbert could be a good fit for the Bulls, either way it shrinkens the pool of talented players when their pick is up at #9

Meh. I don't think Green would've gone in the top 10, and I've never been sold on Hibbert. It shrinks the pool for everyone but, like I said, I think it's teams picking after the Bulls that'll be more adversely affected.

[ConstableRabbit]

Hibbert just decided to go back to school; Green's staying in the draft.

 

I think Hawes could be a good fit for us, but I'd really like to try and trade up and take a shot with Yi. He and Deng would make for two long and athletic athletes (with jumpshots) to run the floor. You could put him at PF or C.

[killthegoat06]

Hibbert just decided to go back to school; Green's staying in the draft.

 

I think Hawes could be a good fit for us, but I'd really like to try and trade up and take a shot with Yi. He and Deng would make for two long and athletic athletes (with jumpshots) to run the floor. You could put him at PF or C.

 

I wanted Hibbert. :cry: