5/4 Nationals (Bergmann) @ Cubs (Zambrano) 1:20pm WGN/720

[Brian]

bring back Wade Miller :?

[Old Style]

high pitch counts totally don't hurt pitchers.

I didn't know that Dusty Baker posted here.

[Keener98]

Anyone who doesn't believe that catchers can have a huge impact on how a pitcher performs is kidding themselves.

 

 

you're kidding yourself. Pitchers make the ultimate call on the pitches they throw. As such, they are responsible!

I never said that the pitcher wasn't ultimately responsible. Why do you think guys like Greg Maddux always liked to have a personal catcher?

 

Superstition.

 

Acutally the real reason goes entirely against your argument(not u banedon) The real reason is because Greg completely believes in the catcher making no difference so instead of having one of the lesser pitchers who might think the catcher does have an effect throw to the "backup" catcher Greg always did it. Why do u think it was always the backup? It has nothing to do with Greg feeling better with one catcher or the other.

[RichHillIsABeast]

Thank god we had an off day yesterday and another coming up soon. Z is death to the pen this season.

[jersey cubs fan]

he may be done with this org and already decided he wants a new challenge.

 

Futbol?

 

I guess if he wanted the challenge of feeding his family with $5-6 million instead of $15m that might make sense. Otherwise, this makes no sense.

[Tedward]

high pitch counts totally don't hurt pitchers.

 

Another present left over from Dusty

[David]

high pitch counts totally don't hurt pitchers.

 

 

Yup. Z's a horse. He just has that 'something.'

[abuck1220]

I'm not a stat freak like some of you are, but I bet if you go back over the past few seasons and look at ERA's when Blanco is catching vs when Barrett is catching, you will notice a marked difference.

 

so the person holding the mitt makes a difference as to how well a guy throws?

[98navigator]

Anyone who doesn't believe that catchers can have a huge impact on how a pitcher performs is kidding themselves.

 

 

you're kidding yourself. Pitchers make the ultimate call on the pitches they throw. As such, they are responsible!

I never said that the pitcher wasn't ultimately responsible. Why do you think guys like Greg Maddux always liked to have a personal catcher?

 

None of Maddux's personal catchers are headed to the HoF

Who said they were?

 

That's my point! You mentioned Maddux to give your point credence however, the catchers have had little to nothing to do with his success. Pitchers shake off catchers all the time. If you want to continue to believe that the catcher's ERA is meaningful, you're welcome to it. I only responded because you called out the people who thought otherwise!

[Brian]

OMG SCORELESS INNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Old Style]

I'm not a stat freak like some of you are, but I bet if you go back over the past few seasons and look at ERA's when Blanco is catching vs when Barrett is catching, you will notice a marked difference.

 

so the person holding the mitt makes a difference as to how well a guy throws?

You guys can be very shortsighted on here.

[TruffleShuffle]

I'm not a stat freak like some of you are, but I bet if you go back over the past few seasons and look at ERA's when Blanco is catching vs when Barrett is catching, you will notice a marked difference.

 

2006:

 

Barrett CERA: 4.75

Blanco: 4.98

[Chocolate Milk]

Great inning of catching by Barrett there.

[Moonlight Graham]

if you read my post moonlight you would of seen my first suggestion was he's injured. I'm not saying he doesn't want to play well this year just that he may be done with this org and already decided he wants a new challenge. nice hit by the pitcher by the way.

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see him miss a start with shoulder soreness. but the whole quitting on the org thing I just don't buy.

[Chocolate Milk]

I'm not a stat freak like some of you are, but I bet if you go back over the past few seasons and look at ERA's when Blanco is catching vs when Barrett is catching, you will notice a marked difference.

 

2006:

 

Barrett CERA: 4.75

Blanco: 4.98

 

but...but...but

[RichHillIsABeast]

I'm not a stat freak like some of you are, but I bet if you go back over the past few seasons and look at ERA's when Blanco is catching vs when Barrett is catching, you will notice a marked difference.

 

2006:

 

Barrett CERA: 4.75

Blanco: 4.98

 

Is that overall or just when Z is pitching?

[UMFan83]

I'm not saying that the catcher makes a huge deal, but I'd believe it makes some difference. Whether its enough to justify having personal catchers is highly highly doubtful. Edited May 4, 2007 by UMFan83

[Old Style]

I'm not a stat freak like some of you are, but I bet if you go back over the past few seasons and look at ERA's when Blanco is catching vs when Barrett is catching, you will notice a marked difference.

 

2006:

 

Barrett CERA: 4.75

Blanco: 4.98

 

but...but...but

Where did you get these numbers?

[Banedon]

I'm not a stat freak like some of you are, but I bet if you go back over the past few seasons and look at ERA's when Blanco is catching vs when Barrett is catching, you will notice a marked difference.

 

2006:

 

Barrett CERA: 4.75

Blanco: 4.98

 

but...but...but

 

And Barrett caught some baaaaaaad pitching last year.

[Brian]

Wow, it's just one of those days :(

[Chocolate Milk]

Pat Hughes getting me excited for no reason.

[swordsman]

horsefeathers!

[Old Style]

I'm not saying that the catcher makes a huge deal, but I'd believe it makes some difference. Whether its enough to justify having personal catchers is highly highly doubtful.

Be prepared to be attacked by the baseball geniuses on here.

[Moonlight Graham]

sob

[UMFan83]

I'm not a stat freak like some of you are, but I bet if you go back over the past few seasons and look at ERA's when Blanco is catching vs when Barrett is catching, you will notice a marked difference.

 

2006:

 

Barrett CERA: 4.75

Blanco: 4.98

 

Is that overall or just when Z is pitching?

 

Since Z's era wasn't in the high 4's I'm guessing overall ;)