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At least Izturis is swinging the bat well. Rather not see him at #2 though.

 

Yea im guessing he's doing this because Izzy has been doing pretty good and can bat lefty against Sheets and so Murton can get his rythm back at the bottom of the lineup.

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i wish i had the stats in front of me, but izturis seems to be one of the most patient hitters(or seeing the most pitches per at bat) in the lineup thus far. granted it's only been 4 games, but if he can do what he has been doing, i don't know why anyone would complain.
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I'm an idiot. I had a chance to go to this game with a great deal, complete with bus rides to and fro, with a bunch of my buddies, and turned it down without even looking at who was pitching. Hey, at least I'm at work today... ARG!

 

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Uh, why is Izturis hitting 2nd?

 

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My appreciation level for Lou just dropped a notch.

 

And it's not like Izturis has ever had success against Sheets.

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I'm an idiot. I had a chance to go to this game with a great deal, complete with bus rides to and fro, with a bunch of my buddies, and turned it down without even looking at who was pitching. Hey, at least I'm at work today... ARG!

 

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As someone (I can't remember who) said yesterday, "Never decline a baseball trip."

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As much as I don't like Izturis in the 2 hole, I wouldn't like Izturis and Blanco back-to-back either. Having Murton towards the bottom will ensure more RBI chances for Z. :D
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i wish i had the stats in front of me, but izturis seems to be one of the most patient hitters(or seeing the most pitches per at bat) in the lineup thus far. granted it's only been 4 games, but if he can do what he has been doing, i don't know why anyone would complain.

 

If a guy is having success in a particular spot in the line up, why deviate away from it? Izturis hitting well in the 8 spot is good for Soriano.

 

Meanwhile, DeRosa, Murton or Jones is a much better option hitting 2nd.

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As much as I don't like Izturis in the 2 hole, I wouldn't like Izturis and Blanco back-to-back either. Having Murton towards the bottom will ensure more RBI chances for Z. :D

 

I do think Izturis is in the 2nd spot is because of Blanco, which should limit the number of times he actually is in the 2 spot this year. Also, if Theriot, Izturis, and Blanco play together on any days, my guess is that Theriot will be in the 2 spot by Lou's usage patterns-Izturis probably will be in the 2 spot less than 20 times this year.

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Uh, why is Izturis hitting 2nd?

 

](*,)

 

My appreciation level for Lou just dropped a notch.

 

And it's not like Izturis has ever had success against Sheets.

 

Hopefully, this line up concoction will be short lived. After 4 games last year, I had a long list of things that I felt Dusty did wrong. After 4 games with Lou, the only thing I've second guessed on him is taking out Marquis an inning early. Not bad.

 

I'm second guessing him on Izturis, and I hope I end up being wrong and Izturis has a great day in the 2 hole. But, Izturis just isn't an OBP hog and he's better suited to hit at the bottom of the order.

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As much as I don't like Izturis in the 2 hole, I wouldn't like Izturis and Blanco back-to-back either. Having Murton towards the bottom will ensure more RBI chances for Z. :D

 

I do think Izturis is in the 2nd spot is because of Blanco, which should limit the number of times he actually is in the 2 spot this year. Also, if Theriot, Izturis, and Blanco play together on any days, my guess is that Theriot will be in the 2 spot by Lou's usage patterns-Izturis probably will be in the 2 spot less than 20 times this year.

 

This might have been a good day to give Theriot a start. Sheets doesn't give up many walks, but if anyone can draw one off of him, it might just be Theriot.

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We weren't really happy with the line-up he threw out yesterday... But look how they produced. He's seeing a little more than we are, so I'll trust him.
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As much as I don't like Izturis in the 2 hole, I wouldn't like Izturis and Blanco back-to-back either. Having Murton towards the bottom will ensure more RBI chances for Z. :D

 

I do think Izturis is in the 2nd spot is because of Blanco, which should limit the number of times he actually is in the 2 spot this year. Also, if Theriot, Izturis, and Blanco play together on any days, my guess is that Theriot will be in the 2 spot by Lou's usage patterns-Izturis probably will be in the 2 spot less than 20 times this year.

 

This might have been a good day to give Theriot a start. Sheets doesn't give up many walks, but if anyone can draw one off of him, it might just be Theriot.

 

That's probably true. I actually thought this would have been a good day to get Cedeno a start-they do want to give Izturis a little more rest to make sure he stays healthy, Z's on the mound who has a lot of strikeouts (which makes defensive players less valuable on his days), and Izturis has been terrible against Sheets. IMO, it would have been logical to give Cedeno his start today (even though of course whichever one you pick is likely going to have a tough day).

 

My guess is with Theriot that they just wanted to ride the hot hand with DeRosa, and also Lou seems to want to use Theriot aggressively off of the bench.

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We weren't really happy with the line-up he threw out yesterday... But look how they produced. He's seeing a little more than we are, so I'll trust him.

 

I'm hoping this is just because Izzy, like it or not, has been pretty decent so far. I doubt this is a long term lineup.

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We weren't really happy with the line-up he threw out yesterday... But look how they produced. He's seeing a little more than we are, so I'll trust him.

 

I'm hoping this is just because Izzy, like it or not, has been pretty decent so far. I doubt this is a long term lineup.

 

Yeah, I hope Lou's attitude is he's just going with the hot hand, because that the only semi-coherent reason I can think of for putting such a low career OBP in front of a team's two best HR hitters.

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We weren't really happy with the line-up he threw out yesterday... But look how they produced. He's seeing a little more than we are, so I'll trust him.

 

We? I was perfectly fine with yesterday's line up.

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We weren't really happy with the line-up he threw out yesterday... But look how they produced. He's seeing a little more than we are, so I'll trust him.

 

We? I was perfectly fine with yesterday's line up.

 

Some of us?

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Uh, why is Izturis hitting 2nd?

 

](*,)

 

My appreciation level for Lou just dropped a notch.

 

And it's not like Izturis has ever had success against Sheets.

 

Hopefully, this line up concoction will be short lived. After 4 games last year, I had a long list of things that I felt Dusty did wrong. After 4 games with Lou, the only thing I've second guessed on him is taking out Marquis an inning early. Not bad.

 

I'm second guessing him on Izturis, and I hope I end up being wrong and Izturis has a great day in the 2 hole. But, Izturis just isn't an OBP hog and he's better suited to hit at the bottom of the order.

 

What about pinch hitting Cedeno instead of....anyone else?

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We weren't really happy with the line-up he threw out yesterday... But look how they produced. He's seeing a little more than we are, so I'll trust him.

 

We? I was perfectly fine with yesterday's line up.

 

I thnk he is referring to the mini-meltdown that occurs everytime Murton is not in the lineup.

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Uh, why is Izturis hitting 2nd?

 

](*,)

 

My appreciation level for Lou just dropped a notch.

 

And it's not like Izturis has ever had success against Sheets.

 

Hopefully, this line up concoction will be short lived. After 4 games last year, I had a long list of things that I felt Dusty did wrong. After 4 games with Lou, the only thing I've second guessed on him is taking out Marquis an inning early. Not bad.

 

I'm second guessing him on Izturis, and I hope I end up being wrong and Izturis has a great day in the 2 hole. But, Izturis just isn't an OBP hog and he's better suited to hit at the bottom of the order.

 

What about pinch hitting Cedeno instead of....anyone else?

 

Anyone else = Blanco? Ward or Floyd against a LHP?

Posted
Uh, why is Izturis hitting 2nd?

 

](*,)

 

My appreciation level for Lou just dropped a notch.

 

And it's not like Izturis has ever had success against Sheets.

 

Hopefully, this line up concoction will be short lived. After 4 games last year, I had a long list of things that I felt Dusty did wrong. After 4 games with Lou, the only thing I've second guessed on him is taking out Marquis an inning early. Not bad.

 

I'm second guessing him on Izturis, and I hope I end up being wrong and Izturis has a great day in the 2 hole. But, Izturis just isn't an OBP hog and he's better suited to hit at the bottom of the order.

 

What about pinch hitting Cedeno instead of....anyone else?

 

Anyone else = Blanco? Ward or Floyd against a LHP?

 

Just because its Lefty-Lefty doesn't mean its bad. Floyd, incidentally, had better splits against lefties than Cedeno.

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