Wood to DL (wood is hurt again?)

[Drew Doughty]

Could the people who want to dump Wood please give a reason for doing so? I don't think I have understood your position...

 

 

You see, all I can think of is that you want him gone because you are angry, upset, tired of being disappointed, annoyed by hype, ect. But those are emotions. Surely these posters aren't arguing that these emotions matter in a way that ought to influence decisions about player personnel.

 

 

 

Right?

 

 

Nobody could be that stupid, right?

 

Please post more.

 

definitely.

[go_cubs_go]

There is no way the Cubs would trade away a future Hall of Famer like Kerry Woods

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Is there any other club that has invested more time and money on a pitcher that has been on the DL 11 times in 10 years?

 

You've been reading Gordon Wittenmyer. Wood hasn't even pitched in MLB for 10 years...

 

Anyway, anything he gives is gravy.

 

Pardon me, he started in 98 which would make this his 9th year, which makes 11 trips to the DL even more sick.

 

Sorry for the egregious error.

 

And by the way, I've never read Gordon.

 

Anyway, gravy is hard to give from the DL.

 

Actually, he's only pitched in 8 seasons (he missed all of 1999 to TJS). Whittenmyer, of the Suntimes, has been falsely reporting that Wood will be on the DL for the 11th time in 10 seasons...

 

I'd say missing an entire season counts as being on the DL that season.

 

98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07.

 

This DL trip counts as coming during Woods' 10th season, even though the regular season hasn't technically started yet.

[mdwilla]

Did Wood have an injury while coming up in the minors? Last not forget Wood was also diagnosed with a hole in heart if i remember correctly. This guy has never caught a break.

[YearofDaCubs]

What does Wood really give you when he comes back anyway? He's been injured the past couple of year with significant injuries. If it's not the shoulder, it's the tricep, not the tricep, no problem it's the elbow. The guy is as injury prone as it gets. I'd rather have somebody reliable out there instead of yo yoing other players to come up and down when Wood has an injury flame up. Wood is a shell of his former self and the Cubs would be better if they moved on without him. Enough is enough with this guy. He's made more money being on the DL than us would make in a life time.

[Sammy Sofa]

Wood is a shell of his former self and the Cubs would be better if they moved on without him.

 

Is they were still paying him and counting on him like he was a starter, yes. They're approaching him as if he's a "maybe reliever" and paying him as such. On the DL he's not taking up any roster space and again, they're barely paying him, at least on the huge MLB scale. Again, your whole reasoning for getting rid of him seems to boil down to an emotional one, and that's like the worst way to run a baseball team. Wood isn't hurting anyone by being on the team now in the role he is in and what he's getting paid. Dropping him just to drop solves nothing.

[abuck1220]

What does Wood really give you when he comes back anyway? He's been injured the past couple of year with significant injuries. If it's not the shoulder, it's the tricep, not the tricep, no problem it's the elbow. The guy is as injury prone as it gets. I'd rather have somebody reliable out there instead of yo yoing other players to come up and down when Wood has an injury flame up. Wood is a shell of his former self and the Cubs would be better if they moved on without him. Enough is enough with this guy. He's made more money being on the DL than us would make in a life time.

 

and he'll be making more money this year if he's cut than most of us would make in a lifetime.

 

he's starting the year off on the DL, so no yo-yoing will occur with young pitchers. just admit your emotions are what is causing you to want him to be cut.

[YearofDaCubs]

What does Wood really give you when he comes back anyway? He's been injured the past couple of year with significant injuries. If it's not the shoulder, it's the tricep, not the tricep, no problem it's the elbow. The guy is as injury prone as it gets. I'd rather have somebody reliable out there instead of yo yoing other players to come up and down when Wood has an injury flame up. Wood is a shell of his former self and the Cubs would be better if they moved on without him. Enough is enough with this guy. He's made more money being on the DL than us would make in a life time.

 

and he'll be making more money this year if he's cut than most of us would make in a lifetime.

 

he's starting the year off on the DL, so no yo-yoing will occur with young pitchers. just admit your emotions are what is causing you to want him to be cut.

That has something to do with it. I'm an emotional fan. But that doesn't change the fact that this guy has always been on the DL since 2004 and cannot be relied upon even as a reliever.

[USSoccer]

What does Wood really give you when he comes back anyway? He's been injured the past couple of year with significant injuries. If it's not the shoulder, it's the tricep, not the tricep, no problem it's the elbow. The guy is as injury prone as it gets. I'd rather have somebody reliable out there instead of yo yoing other players to come up and down when Wood has an injury flame up. Wood is a shell of his former self and the Cubs would be better if they moved on without him. Enough is enough with this guy. He's made more money being on the DL than us would make in a life time.

 

I've taken the liberty of highlighting the parts of your argument that don't have any argumentative weight. His salary as compared to yours and mine, options for other players, and your frustration at the failure of his body to hold up doesn't have anything to do with the issue at hand.

 

Yes, it sucks Wood is hurt. However, this isn't 2004. He was slated to be a late inning reliever. Losing him for a couple weeks isn't going to hurt the team, and the fact he's making-what, $1.5m?-isn't going to hinder the team.

 

We paid Wade Miller just about as much to do nothing last year. Resigning Kerry was a gamble, and I wouldn't be so quick as to label it a failure because he's had 2 arm-related setbacks before April.

 

And for the record, even if he doesn't throw another pitch this season, it was a gamble worth taking with the small amount of money he's getting.

[pitchcs]

It pisses me off that Kerry Wood is a Multi-Millionaire and never actively practices his profession and I sit behind a desk and make jack.

 

Be grateful, at least you don't have to stand on concrete like factory workers or Wal-Mart employees (ask one why they don't have stools), or work outside in 90+ degree temperatures like migrant farm workers, or risk death every single day like crab fisherman, or spend all your days driving a truck seeing your family seldom or never, or cleaning up other peoples' most disgusting garbage as a sanitation worker or janitor.

 

I trust I've made my point. People should be grateful for what they have instead of jealous of others. Move this to rants if need be.

 

EDIT: And it's not like Kerry is trying to get hurt. He gave the Cubs a big discount on this year's contract. I do fault Hendry for relying on him and Prior so heavily for so many years prior to this season, but it's hardly fair to blame Kerry for just signing the contract Jim offered.

 

I'm not actually pissed off and far from jealous. Kerry Wood threw in the range of 100 MPH, of course he was going to make money. If I could do that then I would have too.

 

What I'm saying is that he has continued and is going to continue to make than kind of money when it is ALMOST GUARANTEED that he isn't going to actually play.

[bjsands]

What does Wood really give you when he comes back anyway? He's been injured the past couple of year with significant injuries. If it's not the shoulder, it's the tricep, not the tricep, no problem it's the elbow. The guy is as injury prone as it gets. I'd rather have somebody reliable out there instead of yo yoing other players to come up and down when Wood has an injury flame up. Wood is a shell of his former self and the Cubs would be better if they moved on without him. Enough is enough with this guy. He's made more money being on the DL than us would make in a life time.

 

I've taken the liberty of highlighting the parts of your argument that don't have any argumentative weight. His salary as compared to yours and mine, options for other players, and your frustration at the failure of his body to hold up doesn't have anything to do with the issue at hand.

 

Yes, it sucks Wood is hurt. However, this isn't 2004. He was slated to be a late inning reliever. Losing him for a couple weeks isn't going to hurt the team, and the fact he's making-what, $1.5m?-isn't going to hinder the team.

 

We paid Wade Miller just about as much to do nothing last year. Resigning Kerry was a gamble, and I wouldn't be so quick as to label it a failure because he's had 2 arm-related setbacks before April.

 

And for the record, even if he doesn't throw another pitch this season, it was a gamble worth taking with the small amount of money he's getting.

 

(A couple weeks? I think we all know better.)

 

It was a gamble worth taking if it was going to pay off. There's no reason to give this guy a roster spot if he cannot get through spring training, especially given his history.

 

And doesn't that $1.5 million make him easier to release?

[Garwilly]

What does Wood really give you when he comes back anyway? He's been injured the past couple of year with significant injuries. If it's not the shoulder, it's the tricep, not the tricep, no problem it's the elbow. The guy is as injury prone as it gets. I'd rather have somebody reliable out there instead of yo yoing other players to come up and down when Wood has an injury flame up. Wood is a shell of his former self and the Cubs would be better if they moved on without him. Enough is enough with this guy. He's made more money being on the DL than us would make in a life time.

 

I've taken the liberty of highlighting the parts of your argument that don't have any argumentative weight. His salary as compared to yours and mine, options for other players, and your frustration at the failure of his body to hold up doesn't have anything to do with the issue at hand.

 

Yes, it sucks Wood is hurt. However, this isn't 2004. He was slated to be a late inning reliever. Losing him for a couple weeks isn't going to hurt the team, and the fact he's making-what, $1.5m?-isn't going to hinder the team.

 

We paid Wade Miller just about as much to do nothing last year. Resigning Kerry was a gamble, and I wouldn't be so quick as to label it a failure because he's had 2 arm-related setbacks before April.

 

And for the record, even if he doesn't throw another pitch this season, it was a gamble worth taking with the small amount of money he's getting.

 

(A couple weeks? I think we all know better.)

 

It was a gamble worth taking if it was going to pay off. There's no reason to give this guy a roster spot if he cannot get through spring training, especially given his history.

 

And doesn't that $1.5 million make him easier to release?

 

Why release him though? The money is a sunk cost. If he is on the DL, how is that worse than being off the team?

[bjsands]

What does Wood really give you when he comes back anyway? He's been injured the past couple of year with significant injuries. If it's not the shoulder, it's the tricep, not the tricep, no problem it's the elbow. The guy is as injury prone as it gets. I'd rather have somebody reliable out there instead of yo yoing other players to come up and down when Wood has an injury flame up. Wood is a shell of his former self and the Cubs would be better if they moved on without him. Enough is enough with this guy. He's made more money being on the DL than us would make in a life time.

 

I've taken the liberty of highlighting the parts of your argument that don't have any argumentative weight. His salary as compared to yours and mine, options for other players, and your frustration at the failure of his body to hold up doesn't have anything to do with the issue at hand.

 

Yes, it sucks Wood is hurt. However, this isn't 2004. He was slated to be a late inning reliever. Losing him for a couple weeks isn't going to hurt the team, and the fact he's making-what, $1.5m?-isn't going to hinder the team.

 

We paid Wade Miller just about as much to do nothing last year. Resigning Kerry was a gamble, and I wouldn't be so quick as to label it a failure because he's had 2 arm-related setbacks before April.

 

And for the record, even if he doesn't throw another pitch this season, it was a gamble worth taking with the small amount of money he's getting.

 

(A couple weeks? I think we all know better.)

 

It was a gamble worth taking if it was going to pay off. There's no reason to give this guy a roster spot if he cannot get through spring training, especially given his history.

 

And doesn't that $1.5 million make him easier to release?

 

Why release him though? The money is a sunk cost. If he is on the DL, how is that worse than being off the team?

 

Because this is going to keep happening. Wood will come back saying his arm is healthy, then his stuff will look good, then the Cubs will start to use him, then he will get hurt just as the team starts to trust him, then the Cubs will lie about the injury, then it will be revealed he is hurt and gone for the long term...

 

We should all know better. He's nothing but a tease. Why is this guy worthy of so many chances?

[YearofDaCubs]

What does Wood really give you when he comes back anyway? He's been injured the past couple of year with significant injuries. If it's not the shoulder, it's the tricep, not the tricep, no problem it's the elbow. The guy is as injury prone as it gets. I'd rather have somebody reliable out there instead of yo yoing other players to come up and down when Wood has an injury flame up. Wood is a shell of his former self and the Cubs would be better if they moved on without him. Enough is enough with this guy. He's made more money being on the DL than us would make in a life time.

 

I've taken the liberty of highlighting the parts of your argument that don't have any argumentative weight. His salary as compared to yours and mine, options for other players, and your frustration at the failure of his body to hold up doesn't have anything to do with the issue at hand.

 

Yes, it sucks Wood is hurt. However, this isn't 2004. He was slated to be a late inning reliever. Losing him for a couple weeks isn't going to hurt the team, and the fact he's making-what, $1.5m?-isn't going to hinder the team.

 

We paid Wade Miller just about as much to do nothing last year. Resigning Kerry was a gamble, and I wouldn't be so quick as to label it a failure because he's had 2 arm-related setbacks before April.

 

And for the record, even if he doesn't throw another pitch this season, it was a gamble worth taking with the small amount of money he's getting.

 

(A couple weeks? I think we all know better.)

 

It was a gamble worth taking if it was going to pay off. There's no reason to give this guy a roster spot if he cannot get through spring training, especially given his history.

 

And doesn't that $1.5 million make him easier to release?

 

Why release him though? The money is a sunk cost. If he is on the DL, how is that worse than being off the team?

I agree with all of you when you say that it was a risk worth taking in resigning him. That being said, there's a good chance the guy can never play baseball anymore. He could be done. What he was, he will never be again. It's time to move on without him. Forget about the emotional crap for a second, what has wood done since 2004? 2004, yes 3 years ago. Who cares what role he was given this year considering he can't even pitch in whatever role he was assigned to.

[USSoccer]

 

(A couple weeks? I think we all know better.)

 

It was a gamble worth taking if it was going to pay off. There's no reason to give this guy a roster spot if he cannot get through spring training, especially given his history.

 

And doesn't that $1.5 million make him easier to release?

 

-We all know better? I haven't heard anything definitive, and until then, speculating is a waste of time.

 

-The definition of a gamble is doing something that has no certain outcome. Thus, you saying "It's only a gamble worth taking if it was going to pay off" doesn't make sense. It was a low risk, high reward move, and seeing as how the team is still in Mesa, it's a little rash to declare it a failure.

 

-Why release him when you still don't knnow the extent of the injury? If it's a 2-3 week thing, he can still come back and give you plenty of quality work. If it's longer, oh well, it was a good risk that didn't work out.

 

-Him being on the DL doesn't really cost anyone a roster spot. That's a red herring argument.

[USSoccer]

 

Because this is going to keep happening. Wood will come back saying his arm is healthy, then his stuff will look good, then the Cubs will start to use him, then he will get hurt just as the team starts to trust him, then the Cubs will lie about the injury, then it will be revealed he is hurt and gone for the long term...

 

We should all know better. He's nothing but a tease. Why is this guy worthy of so many chances?

 

I've highlighted the nonsense in your post.

 

It doesn't matter what the Cubs say or don't say about a player's injury. You don't know if this will keep happening or if it won't, and even if your aboive scenario takes place, it means the Cubs got some decent outings from him before he gets hurt again, whicxh was the whole point of signing him for next to nothing to provide some bullpen depth.

 

Seriously, if this were Wade Miller being hurt (at the same salary, BTW), no one would be making stupid declarative statements like "he's a tease" and "release him".

[Exile on Waveland]

I understand the emotional complaints, we're all Cub fans and want the team to do well and have been disappointed by Wood's injuries in previous years.

 

What I don't get, is why the Cubs should release him. They spent a relatively measly $1.5 million on him, which is already a sunk cost. Think of some of the terrible players the Cubs have paid more than that recently (Neifi Perez for one). It was gamble -- but it was/is a gamble on greatness. If Wood is remotely healthy, he could be dominant in his relief role. If he's not and/or he's hurt all the time, they're out $1.5 million. Either way, it was a good gamble. They have a backup plan. The Cubs gain nothing from releasing him, except for your peace of mind -- which, frankly, isn't worth a damn thing to the organization, nor should it be.

 

Oh, and there's no reason the gamble is a failure yet. There is still plenty of season and it doesn't sound like Wood is out for anything but a few weeks.

[YearofDaCubs]

I understand the emotional complaints, we're all Cub fans and want the team to do well and have been disappointed by Wood's injuries in previous years.

 

What I don't get, is why the Cubs should release him. They spent a relatively measly $1.5 million on him, which is already a sunk cost. Think of some of the terrible players the Cubs have paid more than that recently (Neifi Perez for one). It was gamble -- but it was/is a gamble on greatness. If Wood is remotely healthy, he could be dominant in his relief role. If he's not and/or he's hurt all the time, they're out $1.5 million. Either way, it was a good gamble. They have a backup plan. The Cubs gain nothing from releasing him, except for your peace of mind -- which, frankly, isn't worth a damn thing to the organization, nor should it be.

 

Oh, and there's no reason the gamble is a failure yet. There is still plenty of season and it doesn't sound like Wood is out for anything but a few weeks.

I do understand where you are coming from and you're right Wood is not making crazy money relative to what he was making in previous years. We'll see if the guy will be able to pitch again.

[bjsands]

 

Because this is going to keep happening. Wood will come back saying his arm is healthy, then his stuff will look good, then the Cubs will start to use him, then he will get hurt just as the team starts to trust him, then the Cubs will lie about the injury, then it will be revealed he is hurt and gone for the long term...

 

We should all know better. He's nothing but a tease. Why is this guy worthy of so many chances?

 

I've highlighted the nonsense in your post.

 

It doesn't matter what the Cubs say or don't say about a player's injury. You don't know if this will keep happening or if it won't, and even if your aboive scenario takes place, it means the Cubs got some decent outings from him before he gets hurt again, whicxh was the whole point of signing him for next to nothing to provide some bullpen depth.

 

Seriously, if this were Wade Miller being hurt (at the same salary, BTW), no one would be making stupid declarative statements like "he's a tease" and "release him".

 

How long have you been following the Cubs and Kerry Wood? What makes you think this scenario won't play out? If I remember correctly, isn't one's past performance the best predictor of his future performance?

 

And by decent outings I meant one or two. I should have made that clearer. But, even if he is somewhat healthy, he will not be able to throw on back-to-back days. What's the value of a middle reliever who cannot do that?

 

The only reason Kerry Wood is taking up eight pages of this board, and plenty of time of my spring break, is that we still remember the 20 Ks and parts of the 2003 playoffs. But that Kerry Wood is gone and will never come close to returning. The one that is left is an injury-proned and overrated pitcher.

 

BTW, the definition of a tease is to arouse hope, desire, or curiosity without satisfying them. Kerry Wood is the definition of a tease. What, again, is so stupid about that?

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tease

[Exile on Waveland]

I understand the emotional complaints, we're all Cub fans and want the team to do well and have been disappointed by Wood's injuries in previous years.

 

What I don't get, is why the Cubs should release him. They spent a relatively measly $1.5 million on him, which is already a sunk cost. Think of some of the terrible players the Cubs have paid more than that recently (Neifi Perez for one). It was gamble -- but it was/is a gamble on greatness. If Wood is remotely healthy, he could be dominant in his relief role. If he's not and/or he's hurt all the time, they're out $1.5 million. Either way, it was a good gamble. They have a backup plan. The Cubs gain nothing from releasing him, except for your peace of mind -- which, frankly, isn't worth a damn thing to the organization, nor should it be.

 

Oh, and there's no reason the gamble is a failure yet. There is still plenty of season and it doesn't sound like Wood is out for anything but a few weeks.

I do understand where you are coming from and you're right Wood is not making crazy money relative to what he was making in previous years. We'll see if the guy will be able to pitch again.

 

Hey, I'm probably every bit as cynical about Wood's chances as you are. I hope I'm wrong, but I'd be surprised if he's more than ephemerally effective before another injury. That said, I am rooting hard for him and completely agree with the decision to re-sign him.

[cheapseats]

It's bad, in that any setback is bad, especially to a shoulder we already know is both fragile and damaged. What's not so bad is that sources tell me that pain is not in the back of the shoulder, but rather nearer the triceps where Wood has already had problems this spring...he's still stepping across his body, and it still looks like scapular dyskinesis could be an issue beyond the triceps and damaged cuff. It's still unclear how long this will sideline Wood, but Opening Day is out for sure. Whether he makes it back and can hold up as a reliever remains to be seen.

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6024

[USSoccer]

 

Because this is going to keep happening. Wood will come back saying his arm is healthy, then his stuff will look good, then the Cubs will start to use him, then he will get hurt just as the team starts to trust him, then the Cubs will lie about the injury, then it will be revealed he is hurt and gone for the long term...

 

We should all know better. He's nothing but a tease. Why is this guy worthy of so many chances?

 

I've highlighted the nonsense in your post.

 

It doesn't matter what the Cubs say or don't say about a player's injury. You don't know if this will keep happening or if it won't, and even if your aboive scenario takes place, it means the Cubs got some decent outings from him before he gets hurt again, whicxh was the whole point of signing him for next to nothing to provide some bullpen depth.

 

Seriously, if this were Wade Miller being hurt (at the same salary, BTW), no one would be making stupid declarative statements like "he's a tease" and "release him".

 

How long have you been following the Cubs and Kerry Wood? What makes you think this scenario won't play out? If I remember correctly, isn't one's past performance the best predictor of his future performance?

 

And by decent outings I meant one or two. I should have made that clearer. But, even if he is somewhat healthy, he will not be able to throw on back-to-back days. What's the value of a middle reliever who cannot do that?

 

The only reason Kerry Wood is taking up eight pages of this board, and plenty of time of my spring break, is that we still remember the 20 Ks and parts of the 2003 playoffs. But that Kerry Wood is gone and will never come close to returning. The one that is left is an injury-proned and overrated pitcher.

 

BTW, the definition of a tease is to arouse hope, desire, or curiosity without satisfying them. Kerry Wood is the definition of a tease. What, again, is so stupid about that?

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tease

[USSoccer]

 

Because this is going to keep happening. Wood will come back saying his arm is healthy, then his stuff will look good, then the Cubs will start to use him, then he will get hurt just as the team starts to trust him, then the Cubs will lie about the injury, then it will be revealed he is hurt and gone for the long term...

 

We should all know better. He's nothing but a tease. Why is this guy worthy of so many chances?

 

I've highlighted the nonsense in your post.

 

It doesn't matter what the Cubs say or don't say about a player's injury. You don't know if this will keep happening or if it won't, and even if your aboive scenario takes place, it means the Cubs got some decent outings from him before he gets hurt again, whicxh was the whole point of signing him for next to nothing to provide some bullpen depth.

 

Seriously, if this were Wade Miller being hurt (at the same salary, BTW), no one would be making stupid declarative statements like "he's a tease" and "release him".

 

How long have you been following the Cubs and Kerry Wood? What makes you think this scenario won't play out? If I remember correctly, isn't one's past performance the best predictor of his future performance?

 

And by decent outings I meant one or two. I should have made that clearer. But, even if he is somewhat healthy, he will not be able to throw on back-to-back days. What's the value of a middle reliever who cannot do that?

 

The only reason Kerry Wood is taking up eight pages of this board, and plenty of time of my spring break, is that we still remember the 20 Ks and parts of the 2003 playoffs. But that Kerry Wood is gone and will never come close to returning. The one that is left is an injury-proned and overrated pitcher.

 

BTW, the definition of a tease is to arouse hope, desire, or curiosity without satisfying them. Kerry Wood is the definition of a tease. What, again, is so stupid about that?

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tease

 

If you took a pol of the people here at NSBB as far as if they expected big things of Kerry Wood this year, you'd get about 10% yes. It's kinda hard to be a tease if no one really expects anything of you.

 

Yes, past performance is indicative of future performance, but then again, we didn't sign him to 3/$21. We signed him for what amounts to a rehabbing pitcher's contract, which is exactly what he is. IHe elected to rehab rather that surgically repair his shoulder. If he misses the enitre year, big deal, we wasted a million bucks, but if he misses a couple months and gives us 15-30 appearances out of the pen, I'd consider that a successful investment. And since we don't know if he'll be out for weeks or months yet, it's hard to label this a faied investemtn.

[bjsands]

 

Because this is going to keep happening. Wood will come back saying his arm is healthy, then his stuff will look good, then the Cubs will start to use him, then he will get hurt just as the team starts to trust him, then the Cubs will lie about the injury, then it will be revealed he is hurt and gone for the long term...

 

We should all know better. He's nothing but a tease. Why is this guy worthy of so many chances?

 

I've highlighted the nonsense in your post.

 

It doesn't matter what the Cubs say or don't say about a player's injury. You don't know if this will keep happening or if it won't, and even if your aboive scenario takes place, it means the Cubs got some decent outings from him before he gets hurt again, whicxh was the whole point of signing him for next to nothing to provide some bullpen depth.

 

Seriously, if this were Wade Miller being hurt (at the same salary, BTW), no one would be making stupid declarative statements like "he's a tease" and "release him".

 

How long have you been following the Cubs and Kerry Wood? What makes you think this scenario won't play out? If I remember correctly, isn't one's past performance the best predictor of his future performance?

 

And by decent outings I meant one or two. I should have made that clearer. But, even if he is somewhat healthy, he will not be able to throw on back-to-back days. What's the value of a middle reliever who cannot do that?

 

The only reason Kerry Wood is taking up eight pages of this board, and plenty of time of my spring break, is that we still remember the 20 Ks and parts of the 2003 playoffs. But that Kerry Wood is gone and will never come close to returning. The one that is left is an injury-proned and overrated pitcher.

 

BTW, the definition of a tease is to arouse hope, desire, or curiosity without satisfying them. Kerry Wood is the definition of a tease. What, again, is so stupid about that?

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tease

 

If you took a pol of the people here at NSBB as far as if they expected big things of Kerry Wood this year, you'd get about 10% yes. It's kinda hard to be a tease if no one really expects anything of you.

 

Yes, past performance is indicative of future performance, but then again, we didn't sign him to 3/$21. We signed him for what amounts to a rehabbing pitcher's contract, which is exactly what he is. IHe elected to rehab rather that surgically repair his shoulder. If he misses the enitre year, big deal, we wasted a million bucks, but if he misses a couple months and gives us 15-30 appearances out of the pen, I'd consider that a successful investment. And since we don't know if he'll be out for weeks or months yet, it's hard to label this a faied investemtn.

 

Spring training is a time when you see if rehabbing pitchers have anything left. I don't think he does have anything left. Time to move on.

 

And, as for the "no one really expects anything of you", if you are slotted into a 7th or 8th inning role, somebody is expecting something of you. Probably not the members of this board, but the people actually making the decisions.

 

Why is 30 appearances by a middle reliever a successful investment? Those are pretty low standards, frankly.

[Sammy Sofa]

 

Because this is going to keep happening. Wood will come back saying his arm is healthy, then his stuff will look good, then the Cubs will start to use him, then he will get hurt just as the team starts to trust him, then the Cubs will lie about the injury, then it will be revealed he is hurt and gone for the long term...

 

We should all know better. He's nothing but a tease. Why is this guy worthy of so many chances?

 

I've highlighted the nonsense in your post.

 

It doesn't matter what the Cubs say or don't say about a player's injury. You don't know if this will keep happening or if it won't, and even if your aboive scenario takes place, it means the Cubs got some decent outings from him before he gets hurt again, whicxh was the whole point of signing him for next to nothing to provide some bullpen depth.

 

Seriously, if this were Wade Miller being hurt (at the same salary, BTW), no one would be making stupid declarative statements like "he's a tease" and "release him".

 

How long have you been following the Cubs and Kerry Wood? What makes you think this scenario won't play out? If I remember correctly, isn't one's past performance the best predictor of his future performance?

 

And by decent outings I meant one or two. I should have made that clearer. But, even if he is somewhat healthy, he will not be able to throw on back-to-back days. What's the value of a middle reliever who cannot do that?

 

The only reason Kerry Wood is taking up eight pages of this board, and plenty of time of my spring break, is that we still remember the 20 Ks and parts of the 2003 playoffs. But that Kerry Wood is gone and will never come close to returning. The one that is left is an injury-proned and overrated pitcher.

 

BTW, the definition of a tease is to arouse hope, desire, or curiosity without satisfying them. Kerry Wood is the definition of a tease. What, again, is so stupid about that?

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tease

 

If you took a pol of the people here at NSBB as far as if they expected big things of Kerry Wood this year, you'd get about 10% yes. It's kinda hard to be a tease if no one really expects anything of you.

 

Yes, past performance is indicative of future performance, but then again, we didn't sign him to 3/$21. We signed him for what amounts to a rehabbing pitcher's contract, which is exactly what he is. IHe elected to rehab rather that surgically repair his shoulder. If he misses the enitre year, big deal, we wasted a million bucks, but if he misses a couple months and gives us 15-30 appearances out of the pen, I'd consider that a successful investment. And since we don't know if he'll be out for weeks or months yet, it's hard to label this a faied investemtn.

 

Spring training is a time when you see if rehabbing pitchers have anything left. I don't think he does have anything left. Time to move on.

 

That's ridiculous. Spring training isn't the magic end-all-be-all as to whether or not Wood won't be able to contribute to any of the 162 games remaining in the season. If teams ran their rosters with that mentality, baseball would be a joke.

 

And, as for the "no one really expects anything of you", if you are slotted into a 7th or 8th inning role, somebody is expecting something of you. Probably not the members of this board, but the people actually making the decisions.

 

He's not slotted in as if they NEED him. They have more than enough arms to fill the bullpen roles. IF Wood can contribute, it's a bonus. If not, the team is covered. It's win-win.

 

Why is 30 appearances by a middle reliever a successful investment? Those are pretty low standards, frankly.

 

He's only signed for 1 year and $1.5 million. The standards really aren't all that high with that kind of investment.