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3/10ST Cubs (Lilly) @ Royals (De La Rosa) 2:05CT CSN Chicago

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CaliforniaRaisin GOAT

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DeRosa has given up on Prior

 

Talking up Angel...

 

Please elaborate.

 

Why the guy would say anything that would even insinuate something like this is about a teammate is beyond me.

 

He didn't insinuate that Prior was done. Pleasac asked him a question about expectations and prefaced it by saying "If you can get the pitching shored up, the offense looks like one of the best in the league." In the midst of his answer, DeRosa said, "With the way Guzman is throwing the ball, he might be our fifth starter."

 

There was no dig at Prior whatsoever.

 

I didn't mean to say it was a dig but it definitely didn't show any confidence in Prior's ability to rebound...

 

You hear statements like that all the time in ST. It meant less than nothing, IMO.

 

If both pitchers were no-names I'd agree but when you have someone with the pedigree of Mark Prior, it's hard to agree. Perhaps if DeRosa had a chance to think about his answer it would have been more diplomatic but I think his thoughts about Angel are telling. It's still relatively early in ST yet DeRosa doesn't feel that Prior will rebound. He was being honest about his feelings for Guzman...

 

The guys on the team just want to win. A new guy like DeRosa has no allegiance to Mark Prior. As such, he's given his gut feeling.

 

Based on what everyone else has quoted as DeRosa's comments, you're definitely digging way too deep on what DeRosa said.

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DeRosa has given up on Prior

 

Talking up Angel...

 

Please elaborate.

 

Why the guy would say anything that would even insinuate something like this is about a teammate is beyond me.

 

He didn't insinuate that Prior was done. Pleasac asked him a question about expectations and prefaced it by saying "If you can get the pitching shored up, the offense looks like one of the best in the league." In the midst of his answer, DeRosa said, "With the way Guzman is throwing the ball, he might be our fifth starter."

 

There was no dig at Prior whatsoever.

 

I didn't mean to say it was a dig but it definitely didn't show any confidence in Prior's ability to rebound...

 

You hear statements like that all the time in ST. It meant less than nothing, IMO.

 

If both pitchers were no-names I'd agree but when you have someone with the pedigree of Mark Prior, it's hard to agree. Perhaps if DeRosa had a chance to think about his answer it would have been more diplomatic but I think his thoughts about Angel are telling. It's still relatively early in ST yet DeRosa doesn't feel that Prior will rebound. He was being honest about his feelings for Guzman...

 

The guys on the team just want to win. A new guy like DeRosa has no allegiance to Mark Prior. As such, he's given his gut feeling.

 

You are reading waaaayyy to much into what DeRosa said, IMO.

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DeRosa has given up on Prior

 

Talking up Angel...

 

Please elaborate.

 

Why the guy would say anything that would even insinuate something like this is about a teammate is beyond me.

 

He didn't insinuate that Prior was done. Pleasac asked him a question about expectations and prefaced it by saying "If you can get the pitching shored up, the offense looks like one of the best in the league." In the midst of his answer, DeRosa said, "With the way Guzman is throwing the ball, he might be our fifth starter."

 

There was no dig at Prior whatsoever.

 

I didn't mean to say it was a dig but it definitely didn't show any confidence in Prior's ability to rebound...

 

You hear statements like that all the time in ST. It meant less than nothing, IMO.

 

If both pitchers were no-names I'd agree but when you have someone with the pedigree of Mark Prior, it's hard to agree. Perhaps if DeRosa had a chance to think about his answer it would have been more diplomatic but I think his thoughts about Angel are telling. It's still relatively early in ST yet DeRosa doesn't feel that Prior will rebound. He was being honest about his feelings for Guzman...

 

The guys on the team just want to win. A new guy like DeRosa has no allegiance to Mark Prior. As such, he's given his gut feeling.

 

You're reading way too much into it. He just got finished watching Guzman hit 96-97 on the gun with great movement. His tone was much more indicative that it was a throw away comment than anything else.

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Well, either way.

 

If Angel really can pitch the way he's shown he's capable of, it really will make anything from Prior gravy. I know people were saying that Prior's contributions would be gravy before Angel had really shown anything, but it just wasn't the case.

 

We need another big starter to really make noise this year, and Gooz could be that guy.

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DeRosa has given up on Prior

 

Talking up Angel...

 

Please elaborate.

 

Why the guy would say anything that would even insinuate something like this is about a teammate is beyond me.

 

He didn't insinuate that Prior was done. Pleasac asked him a question about expectations and prefaced it by saying "If you can get the pitching shored up, the offense looks like one of the best in the league." In the midst of his answer, DeRosa said, "With the way Guzman is throwing the ball, he might be our fifth starter."

 

There was no dig at Prior whatsoever.

 

I didn't mean to say it was a dig but it definitely didn't show any confidence in Prior's ability to rebound...

 

You hear statements like that all the time in ST. It meant less than nothing, IMO.

 

If both pitchers were no-names I'd agree but when you have someone with the pedigree of Mark Prior, it's hard to agree. Perhaps if DeRosa had a chance to think about his answer it would have been more diplomatic but I think his thoughts about Angel are telling. It's still relatively early in ST yet DeRosa doesn't feel that Prior will rebound. He was being honest about his feelings for Guzman...

 

The guys on the team just want to win. A new guy like DeRosa has no allegiance to Mark Prior. As such, he's given his gut feeling.

 

You're reading way too much into it. He just got finished watching Guzman hit 96-97 on the gun with great movement. His tone was much more indicative that it was a throw away comment than anything else.

 

I disagree and I guess we won't know the real answer.

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Coats really, REALLY wants to make this team!

 

Now that's something I'd be fine with at this point-a second utility guy which allows Theriot to be used off the bench early without fear of somebody getting hurt later.

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Coats really, REALLY wants to make this team!

 

I fully support and endorse this nomination!

 

I'd take him over Cedeno at this point. If we go to an 11-man pitching staff, I can see Coats and Pagan getting those last two spots.

YearofDaCubs Myrtle Beach Pelicans

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Guzman looks very good today. He definitely should be the leader for the fifth starter. It's going to be interesting to read Lou's comments after today.

Agreed.

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billy butler vs guzman

 

ball low 1-0

smoked foul to LF 1-1

curve right down the pipe 1-2

curve low and outside 2-2

94 mph heater down the middle, fouled away 2-2

95 mph heater hits butler in hand

 

That's for Kinkade. :evil:

CaliforniaRaisin GOAT

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Billy Butler could make Mike Sweeney expendable by the all-star break.

 

He has to be expendable, Billy Butler cannot possibly step on a field. Ever.

 

And people complain about Dunn's defense.

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