Can someone fill me in on the starting outfield for 2007?

[MustangMike]

I was talking to my friend about this, but we couldn't agree. What's the thought on the board?

 

 

RF: Soriano

CF: Pie

LF: Murton/Floyd

 

that's what I think, but what happens to JJ then? JJ in center I guess but if Pie shows he's got it in spring traing I can't come up with a solution.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Based on the latest info, I think the OF is Floyd/Murton in LF, Soriano in CF, and Jones in RF.

[RichHillIsABeast]

Opening Day:

 

LF: Murton/Floyd platoon

CF: Soriano

RF: Jones

 

It sounds like Lou wants Soriano in CF as they don't have to run out and get a stopgap in CF until Pie comes up.

 

I think when Pie comes up, Jones is gone (if not before).

[CuseCubFan69]

Based on the latest info, I think the OF is Floyd/Murton in LF, Soriano in CF, and Jones in RF.

 

I agree unless a trade is made to change things.

[MustangMike]

Based on the latest info, I think the OF is Floyd/Murton in LF, Soriano in CF, and Jones in RF.

 

But they say they don't want to move Soriano...so when/if Pie is ready, then they move Soriano or Pie goes to right?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Based on the latest info, I think the OF is Floyd/Murton in LF, Soriano in CF, and Jones in RF.

 

But they say they don't want to move Soriano...so when/if Pie is ready, then they move Soriano or Pie goes to right?

 

Hendry has said Pie has the ability to play RF and has done so some already. I think that would ultimately be the plan.

 

I think they will try Soriano in CF in ST. Pie will play some CF and some RF. If Soriano can handle CF, that will be his position. If Soriano has to move to a corner, I think Pie determines what the Cubs do.

 

Right now, the Cubs are looking at Soriano at CF. I think this depends on whether Soriano can handle CF defensively.

[MustangMike]

Based on the latest info, I think the OF is Floyd/Murton in LF, Soriano in CF, and Jones in RF.

 

But they say they don't want to move Soriano...so when/if Pie is ready, then they move Soriano or Pie goes to right?

 

Hendry has said Pie has the ability to play RF and has done so some already. I think that would ultimately be the plan.

 

I think they will try Soriano in CF in ST. Pie will play some CF and some RF. If Soriano can handle CF, that will be his position. If Soriano has to move to a corner, I think Pie determines what the Cubs do.

 

Right now, the Cubs are looking at Soriano at CF. I think this depends on whether Soriano can handle CF defensively.

 

No, that makes sense and I get it. I just didn't think they would move Soriano once he had a position. If he can handle CF, I'd be suprised if they moved him to RF the following year. To me, I know Pie can play RF, but more pressing is Soriano can't play CF forever even if he can handle it now. Why not put both in there positions now and keep them there.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

 

No, that makes sense and I get it. I just didn't think they would move Soriano once he had a position. If he can handle CF, I'd be suprised if they moved him to RF the following year. To me, I know Pie can play RF, but more pressing is Soriano can't play CF forever even if he can handle it now. Why not put both in there positions now and keep them there.

 

I think there is an obvious answer why not put both in those positions now. The Cubs have serious doubts as to whether Pie is ready. Quade's comments at the Convention implied that Mike did not think Felix is ready and still has some things to learn and some adjustments to make.

 

If Pie isn't ready, the Cubs are in conundrum. If Soriano is in RF and Murton/Floyd in LF, who is in CF. Jones might play there, but he may not handle it defenively either. If Soriano is willing (an he is) and able (that's the rub) then he solves the problem as Jones can stay at RF. Soriano in CF makes the most sense, regardless of Pie.

 

Either way, the future appears Murton, Soriano, Pie, so putting Pie in RF doesn't make that much difference. Soriano has the arm and athleticism to handle CF, so it's learning the position more than anything else.

[UMFan83]

I wish it was:

 

LF: Murton

CF: Jones

RF: Soriano

 

Bench: Floyd

[Guest]

I wish it was:

 

LF: Murton

CF: Jones

RF: Soriano

 

Bench: Floyd

Myself, I'd prefer

 

LF: Cabrera

CF: Beltran

RF: Vlad

 

:D

[BigbadB]

I wish it was:

 

LF: Murton

CF: Jones

RF: Soriano

 

Bench: Floyd

Myself, I'd prefer

 

LF: Cabrera

CF: Beltran

RF: Vlad

 

:D

 

No bench guys? I think you need more depth. 8-)

[baseball7897]

 

No, that makes sense and I get it. I just didn't think they would move Soriano once he had a position. If he can handle CF, I'd be suprised if they moved him to RF the following year. To me, I know Pie can play RF, but more pressing is Soriano can't play CF forever even if he can handle it now. Why not put both in there positions now and keep them there.

 

I think there is an obvious answer why not put both in those positions now. The Cubs have serious doubts as to whether Pie is ready. Quade's comments at the Convention implied that Mike did not think Felix is ready and still has some things to learn and some adjustments to make.

 

If Pie isn't ready, the Cubs are in conundrum. If Soriano is in RF and Murton/Floyd in LF, who is in CF. Jones might play there, but he may not handle it defenively either. If Soriano is willing (an he is) and able (that's the rub) then he solves the problem as Jones can stay at RF. Soriano in CF makes the most sense, regardless of Pie.

 

Either way, the future appears Murton, Soriano, Pie, so putting Pie in RF doesn't make that much difference. Soriano has the arm and athleticism to handle CF, so it's learning the position more than anything else.

 

I don't see Soriano having much problems in CF. CF should be easier to play than the other outfield spots mainly for better reads on the flyballs.

[KaiserCesar]

I think the ultimate plan is to move Jacque out and Pie in in the near future with the alignment depending on how Soriano does in CF defensively.

 

IMO a Jacque trade earlier this year would result in a stop-gap CF acquisition with Pie getting time in the minors no matter what.

[CuseCubFan69]

 

No, that makes sense and I get it. I just didn't think they would move Soriano once he had a position. If he can handle CF, I'd be suprised if they moved him to RF the following year. To me, I know Pie can play RF, but more pressing is Soriano can't play CF forever even if he can handle it now. Why not put both in there positions now and keep them there.

 

I think there is an obvious answer why not put both in those positions now. The Cubs have serious doubts as to whether Pie is ready. Quade's comments at the Convention implied that Mike did not think Felix is ready and still has some things to learn and some adjustments to make.

 

If Pie isn't ready, the Cubs are in conundrum. If Soriano is in RF and Murton/Floyd in LF, who is in CF. Jones might play there, but he may not handle it defenively either. If Soriano is willing (an he is) and able (that's the rub) then he solves the problem as Jones can stay at RF. Soriano in CF makes the most sense, regardless of Pie.

 

Either way, the future appears Murton, Soriano, Pie, so putting Pie in RF doesn't make that much difference. Soriano has the arm and athleticism to handle CF, so it's learning the position more than anything else.

 

I don't see Soriano having much problems in CF. CF should be easier to play than the other outfield spots mainly for better reads on the flyballs.

 

I used to think that too until recently when I've had a couple of kids that could play RF very well but struggled in Center. They both said the got a better read off the bat in RF than they did in CF.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

 

No, that makes sense and I get it. I just didn't think they would move Soriano once he had a position. If he can handle CF, I'd be suprised if they moved him to RF the following year. To me, I know Pie can play RF, but more pressing is Soriano can't play CF forever even if he can handle it now. Why not put both in there positions now and keep them there.

 

I think there is an obvious answer why not put both in those positions now. The Cubs have serious doubts as to whether Pie is ready. Quade's comments at the Convention implied that Mike did not think Felix is ready and still has some things to learn and some adjustments to make.

 

If Pie isn't ready, the Cubs are in conundrum. If Soriano is in RF and Murton/Floyd in LF, who is in CF. Jones might play there, but he may not handle it defenively either. If Soriano is willing (an he is) and able (that's the rub) then he solves the problem as Jones can stay at RF. Soriano in CF makes the most sense, regardless of Pie.

 

Either way, the future appears Murton, Soriano, Pie, so putting Pie in RF doesn't make that much difference. Soriano has the arm and athleticism to handle CF, so it's learning the position more than anything else.

 

I don't see Soriano having much problems in CF. CF should be easier to play than the other outfield spots mainly for better reads on the flyballs.

 

I used to think that too until recently when I've had a couple of kids that could play RF very well but struggled in Center. They both said the got a better read off the bat in RF than they did in CF.

 

I would think a lot of that has to do with background. Whether you're playing RF or CF in the big leagues you have the same rows and rows of seats as a backdrop. Also, Wrigley's shorter alleys make for a smaller CF than normal.

[CuseCubFan69]

 

No, that makes sense and I get it. I just didn't think they would move Soriano once he had a position. If he can handle CF, I'd be suprised if they moved him to RF the following year. To me, I know Pie can play RF, but more pressing is Soriano can't play CF forever even if he can handle it now. Why not put both in there positions now and keep them there.

 

I think there is an obvious answer why not put both in those positions now. The Cubs have serious doubts as to whether Pie is ready. Quade's comments at the Convention implied that Mike did not think Felix is ready and still has some things to learn and some adjustments to make.

 

If Pie isn't ready, the Cubs are in conundrum. If Soriano is in RF and Murton/Floyd in LF, who is in CF. Jones might play there, but he may not handle it defenively either. If Soriano is willing (an he is) and able (that's the rub) then he solves the problem as Jones can stay at RF. Soriano in CF makes the most sense, regardless of Pie.

 

Either way, the future appears Murton, Soriano, Pie, so putting Pie in RF doesn't make that much difference. Soriano has the arm and athleticism to handle CF, so it's learning the position more than anything else.

 

I don't see Soriano having much problems in CF. CF should be easier to play than the other outfield spots mainly for better reads on the flyballs.

 

I used to think that too until recently when I've had a couple of kids that could play RF very well but struggled in Center. They both said the got a better read off the bat in RF than they did in CF.

 

I would think a lot of that has to do with background. Whether you're playing RF or CF in the big leagues you have the same rows and rows of seats as a backdrop. Also, Wrigley's shorter alleys make for a smaller CF than normal.

 

Could be but they struggled at home and away.

 

I think a lot depends on the bricks and how they go back on balls.

[wilk]

But before you even get to the bricks or backdrop the primary issue is the slice off the bat. Especially when Soriano was in left, he himself talked about his issues reading the ball of a lefty's bat. The hardest ball to read in center is going to be the linedrive right at him, and in judging its distance. Since Soriano has poor lateral speed and no vertical leap, his range in center will be an issue on these that his running speed can't always make up for. But in general, Soriano will have an easier time reading the ball off the bat in center than he would in a corner. Personally though, I think Jacque is our best centerfielder of the four.

[Soul]

LF: Roast

CF: Me

RF: Treeman

[Jazz]

more like

 

LF: Macias

CF: Pierre

RF: Pagan

 

:)

[RammyFanny]

more like

 

LF: Macias

CF: Pierre

RF: Pagan

 

:)

Just think of the speed.

[frostwyrm]

I wish it was:

 

LF: Murton

CF: Jones

RF: Soriano

 

Bench: Floyd

Myself, I'd prefer

 

LF: Cabrera

CF: Beltran

RF: Vlad

 

:D

 

I'd like to know if back in 2004 Hendry knew the Cubs payroll was slated for a big increase over the next 2 years. I hope he was ignorant of it because failing to give Beltran $119M looks pretty stupid in light of Soriano's $136M deal. Also, passing on Vlad because we had Alou and wanted Maddux seemed utterly asinine even at the time.

[cbbryan]

I wish it was:

 

LF: Murton

CF: Jones

RF: Soriano

 

Bench: Floyd

Myself, I'd prefer

 

LF: Cabrera

CF: Beltran

RF: Vlad

 

:D

 

I'd like to know if back in 2004 Hendry knew the Cubs payroll was slated for a big increase over the next 2 years. I hope he was ignorant of it because failing to give Beltran $119M looks pretty stupid in light of Soriano's $136M deal. Also, passing on Vlad because we had Alou and wanted Maddux seemed utterly asinine even at the time.

 

Yeah, don't get me started on Vlad and the Cubs not going after him. And just a few short years after offering a pile of money to Mike Hampton!!!!

[Roast]

LF: Roast

CF: Me

RF: Treeman

 

Well, it'd be funny. I cant say anything about any positive production tho

[CubFanPhilly]

I was talking to my friend about this, but we couldn't agree. What's the thought on the board?

 

 

RF: Soriano

CF: Pie

LF: Murton/Floyd

 

that's what I think, but what happens to JJ then? JJ in center I guess but if Pie shows he's got it in spring traing I can't come up with a solution.

 

RF: Jones/DeRosa (straight L/R platoon)

CF: Soriano/Pagan or Theriot (Soriano gets 95% of the ABs)

LF: Murton/Floyd (60/40 platoon)

 

If Pie's ready by mid-season:

RF: Pie/DeRosa

CF: Soriano/Pie

LF: Murton/Floyd

Jones (dealt) and Pagan (DFA'd or dealt)

 

2008:

RF: Soriano

CF: Pie

LF: Murton

[hardcorecubfan]

But before you even get to the bricks or backdrop the primary issue is the slice off the bat. Especially when Soriano was in left, he himself talked about his issues reading the ball of a lefty's bat. The hardest ball to read in center is going to be the linedrive right at him, and in judging its distance. Since Soriano has poor lateral speed and no vertical leap, his range in center will be an issue on these that his running speed can't always make up for. But in general, Soriano will have an easier time reading the ball off the bat in center than he would in a corner. Personally though, I think Jacque is our best centerfielder of the four.

 

what?? a guy that can steal 40 plus bases doesn't have a verticle leaping ability or lateral speed.

 

As a track coach that seems strange