Its Bowl Season...

TruffleShuffle · January 8, 2007

E. Kentucky
Ohio State
Virginia Tech
Miami (O)
Akron

Congrats, you found the one Big East team that actually did play a tough OOC schedule.

CuseCubFan69 · January 8, 2007

The top one as at least 3 of them regularly go to bowls.

Michigan State regularly goes to bowls?!?!? And Toledo usually goes to a bowl because they play in the MAC and finish 7-5 or 8-4 every year. I'm more impressed by the team that plays one really hard game than 3 pretend-hard games and 2 duds.

So a good MAC, middle of the road Big 10 and usually upper level ACC team stink but one very good team and 3 AA teams are better? Let's also add that by including Arkansas you now have 2 bowl out of conference teams that the top 4 SEC teams played during the regular season and one lost 50-14. Yeah, that proves you're the best.

BigSlick · January 8, 2007

Go Buckeyes! Take home the 2nd title in 5 years!

http://redsox.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Troy_Smith/troy_smith.jpg

Gotta admit other Big Ten fans, it'd be nice to sweep the SEC and take their "BEst conference EVAR" title, eh?

TruffleShuffle · January 8, 2007

The top one as at least 3 of them regularly go to bowls.

Michigan State regularly goes to bowls?!?!? And Toledo usually goes to a bowl because they play in the MAC and finish 7-5 or 8-4 every year. I'm more impressed by the team that plays one really hard game than 3 pretend-hard games and 2 duds.

So a good MAC, middle of the road Big 10 and usually upper level ACC team stink but one very good team and 3 AA teams are better? Let's also add that by including Arkansas you now have 2 bowl out of conference teams that the top 4 SEC teams played during the regular season and one lost 50-14. Yeah, that proves you're the best.

Michigan State is not a middle of the road Big 10 team. They finished 10th this year, 9th last year, 6th in '04, 5th in '03, and 9th in '02. They've made one bowl game in five years. Minnesota is a middle of the road Big 10 team; Michigan State is in the bottom third.

Virginia? 7th this year, 9th last year, 4th in '04, 4th (of 9) in '03, 3rd (of 9) in '02. That smells a lot more like a middle of the road ACC program to me, especially since that's what they've been since the arrival of Miami/F$U/BC. And Toledo might be a pretty good MAC team most years, but this year they sure weren't.

CuseCubFan69 · January 8, 2007

The top one as at least 3 of them regularly go to bowls.

Michigan State regularly goes to bowls?!?!? And Toledo usually goes to a bowl because they play in the MAC and finish 7-5 or 8-4 every year. I'm more impressed by the team that plays one really hard game than 3 pretend-hard games and 2 duds.

So a good MAC, middle of the road Big 10 and usually upper level ACC team stink but one very good team and 3 AA teams are better? Let's also add that by including Arkansas you now have 2 bowl out of conference teams that the top 4 SEC teams played during the regular season and one lost 50-14. Yeah, that proves you're the best.

Michigan State is not a middle of the road Big 10 team. They finished 10th this year, 9th last year, 6th in '04, 5th in '03, and 9th in '02. They've made one bowl game in five years. Minnesota is a middle of the road Big 10 team; Michigan State is in the bottom third.

Virginia? 7th this year, 9th last year, 4th in '04, 4th (of 9) in '03, 3rd (of 9) in '02. That smells a lot more like a middle of the road ACC program to me, especially since that's what they've been since the arrival of Miami/F$U/BC. And Toledo might be a pretty good MAC team most years, but this year they sure weren't.

So now tell me of what wonderful things Utah St, SE Mo St and Lou-Monroe have done?

Also, when these contracts/shedules are signed it is years in advance.

TruffleShuffle · January 8, 2007

The top one as at least 3 of them regularly go to bowls.

Michigan State regularly goes to bowls?!?!? And Toledo usually goes to a bowl because they play in the MAC and finish 7-5 or 8-4 every year. I'm more impressed by the team that plays one really hard game than 3 pretend-hard games and 2 duds.

So a good MAC, middle of the road Big 10 and usually upper level ACC team stink but one very good team and 3 AA teams are better? Let's also add that by including Arkansas you now have 2 bowl out of conference teams that the top 4 SEC teams played during the regular season and one lost 50-14. Yeah, that proves you're the best.

If we expand it to Tennessee, then you've got a trouncing of a good Pac 10 team. And, you're being awfully selective about this year. In previous years, Auburn has played USC, LSU has played Arizona St, Florida has played Miami and does play (a usually very good) Florida State every year.

If you look ahead to next year, Auburn plays Oregon St and USF, and then they play WVU in 2008. LSU plays Virginia Tech and Middle Tennessee State (hey look out they went to a bowl this year!), Alabama plays @F$U, so does Florida; Tennessee goes to Cal and also plays Southern Miss and Northern Illinois; Georgia plays GT and Oklahoma St; Arkansas (admittedly) plays four duds. Still, I'm guessing this is just as tough as what the Big East will do OOC in 2007.

TruffleShuffle · January 8, 2007

The top one as at least 3 of them regularly go to bowls.

Michigan State regularly goes to bowls?!?!? And Toledo usually goes to a bowl because they play in the MAC and finish 7-5 or 8-4 every year. I'm more impressed by the team that plays one really hard game than 3 pretend-hard games and 2 duds.

So a good MAC, middle of the road Big 10 and usually upper level ACC team stink but one very good team and 3 AA teams are better? Let's also add that by including Arkansas you now have 2 bowl out of conference teams that the top 4 SEC teams played during the regular season and one lost 50-14. Yeah, that proves you're the best.

Michigan State is not a middle of the road Big 10 team. They finished 10th this year, 9th last year, 6th in '04, 5th in '03, and 9th in '02. They've made one bowl game in five years. Minnesota is a middle of the road Big 10 team; Michigan State is in the bottom third.

Virginia? 7th this year, 9th last year, 4th in '04, 4th (of 9) in '03, 3rd (of 9) in '02. That smells a lot more like a middle of the road ACC program to me, especially since that's what they've been since the arrival of Miami/F$U/BC. And Toledo might be a pretty good MAC team most years, but this year they sure weren't.

So now tell me of what wonderful things Utah St, SE Mo St and Lou-Monroe have done?

Also, when these contracts/shedules are signed it is years in advance.

Yeah, so can we also give credit to LSU for beating a good Fresno State program, or to Auburn for beating a middle of the road Washington State team? And I guess Florida beat one of the premiere teams in the country when they topped Florida State.

CuseCubFan69 · January 8, 2007

The top one as at least 3 of them regularly go to bowls.

Michigan State regularly goes to bowls?!?!? And Toledo usually goes to a bowl because they play in the MAC and finish 7-5 or 8-4 every year. I'm more impressed by the team that plays one really hard game than 3 pretend-hard games and 2 duds.

So a good MAC, middle of the road Big 10 and usually upper level ACC team stink but one very good team and 3 AA teams are better? Let's also add that by including Arkansas you now have 2 bowl out of conference teams that the top 4 SEC teams played during the regular season and one lost 50-14. Yeah, that proves you're the best.

If we expand it to Tennessee, then you've got a trouncing of a good Pac 10 team. And, you're being awfully selective about this year. In previous years, Auburn has played USC, LSU has played Arizona St, Florida has played Miami and does play (a usually very good) Florida State every year.

If you look ahead to next year, Auburn plays Oregon St and USF, and then they play WVU in 2008. LSU plays Virginia Tech and Middle Tennessee State (hey look out they went to a bowl this year!), Alabama plays @F$U, so does Florida; Tennessee goes to Cal and also plays Southern Miss and Northern Illinois; Georgia plays GT and Oklahoma St; Arkansas (admittedly) plays four duds. Still, I'm guessing this is just as tough as what the Big East will do OOC in 2007.

This year is the point. Who knows what next year will bring. Tennessee usually plays the toughest SEC non conference schedule out of the top SEC teams.

My whole point which has shifted off center, is that Louisville played in a conference that was among the top if not thee top in 2006. With this, they got no consideration to play in the BCS Championship game. None once since they lost 1 game. Yet, Michigan and Florida are the only ones considered for the big game. The Big East earned respect by their play in 2006 and then proved it in the bowls but yet get dissmissed by the people in power and most writers/fans from the Big 10,SEC and Big 12 Conferences. Heck, Texas has to lose twice before they get knocked out and if Oklahoma had one loss they would have been a team that got considered. This automatic assumption that since the Big East is equal to all the other non BCS conferences and not to the level of the big 3 is what bothers me, this out of hand without looking at it dismissal. I had no problem with USC getting it, none, if they had 1 loss because they would have proved it in their conference and out of conference.

How would you feel if Penn State won the Big 10 and went through the same thing Louisville went through? A "hey, you're in the top 5 or 7 in the land, you should be happy with it" or "you had a nice season but..."

TruffleShuffle · January 8, 2007

My whole point which has shifted off center, is that Louisville played in a conference that was among the top if not thee top in 2006.

Unforutnately, you and Mike Tranghese are the only people who feel this way.

How would you feel if Penn State won the Big 10 and went through the same thing Louisville went through? A "hey, you're in the top 5 or 7 in the land, you should be happy with it" or "you had a nice season but..."

Fine with me. If they'd lost to Michigan, they'd have had no argument to be in ahead of Michigan, and if they'd lost to ND, then they'd have lost their only real non-conference game.

CuseCubFan69 · January 8, 2007

My whole point which has shifted off center, is that Louisville played in a conference that was among the top if not thee top in 2006.

Unforutnately, you and Mike Tranghese are the only people who feel this way.

How would you feel if Penn State won the Big 10 and went through the same thing Louisville went through? A "hey, you're in the top 5 or 7 in the land, you should be happy with it" or "you had a nice season but..."

Fine with me. If they'd lost to Michigan, they'd have had no argument to be in ahead of Michigan, and if they'd lost to ND, then they'd have lost their only real non-conference game.

No, won the conference out right is what I mean, like Louisville did.

Flames24Rulz · January 9, 2007

I'll call it. Florida will beat Ohio State.

:wink:

Prior4CyYoung · January 9, 2007

Go Buckeyes! Take home the 2nd title in 5 years!

http://redsox.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Troy_Smith/troy_smith.jpg

Gotta admit other Big Ten fans, it'd be nice to sweep the SEC and take their "BEst conference EVAR" title, eh?

Not Happening :lol:

BigSlick · January 9, 2007

Go Buckeyes! Take home the 2nd title in 5 years!

http://redsox.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Troy_Smith/troy_smith.jpg

Gotta admit other Big Ten fans, it'd be nice to sweep the SEC and take their "BEst conference EVAR" title, eh?

Not Happening :lol:

Gah.

Ready to ham up and eat the crow I justifiedly deserve.

Send it over.

Prior4CyYoung · January 9, 2007

hehe was reading this the posts and had to respond to that :o

soccer10k · January 9, 2007

Final Bowl Standings by Conference

Conference   W   L    PF    PA   Wins Over
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ACC          4   4   206   199   WAC, Pac-10, Big Ten, I-A Ind
Big 12       3   5   218   277   SEC, Big Ten (2)
Big East     5   0   150    89   C-USA, Big 12, ACC (2), MAC
Big Ten      2   5   141   191   SEC (2)
C-USA        1   4   101   141   MAC
I-A Ind      0   2    38    66   
MAC          1   3    69   106   Sun Belt
M. West      3   1   112    48   MAC, Pac-10, C-USA
Pac-10       3   3   175   189   Big 12 (2), Big 10
SEC          6   3   257   193   ACC (2), C-USA, Big 12, I-A Ind, Big 10
Sun Belt     1   1    55    48   C-USA
WAC          3   1   124    99   MWC, Pac-10, Big 12

Prior4CyYoung · January 9, 2007

WAC and Big East were the best who would have thought that. Big Ten was a huge disappointment though with a whooping 2-5 though :x

Flames24Rulz · January 9, 2007

WAC and Big East were the best who would have thought that. Big Ten was a huge disappointment though with a whooping 2-5 though :x

I only predicted the Big Ten to win one game. There definitely weren't many good teams in the Big 10 this year.

Outshined_One · January 9, 2007

WAC and Big East were the best who would have thought that. Big Ten was a huge disappointment though with a whooping 2-5 though :x

Go Badgers!

NorthsideAvenger · January 9, 2007

As Vance, and OleMiss can atest to, the SEC is the TOUGHEST and BEST overall conference from top-to-bottom in the nation. And after watching Florida manhandle the supossedly "best team" in NCAA football, I can pretty much say that is OSU was in the SEC, they would have ATLEAST 2 losses, if not three.

Prior4CyYoung · January 9, 2007

As Vance, and OleMiss can atest to, the SEC is the TOUGHEST and BEST overall conference from top-to-bottom in the nation. And after watching Florida manhandle the supossedly "best team" in NCAA football, I can pretty much say that is OSU was in the SEC, they would have ATLEAST 2 losses, if not three.

Id give them 2 loses Florida and LSU I think they could take Auburn Tennessee etc..

CuseCubFan69 · January 9, 2007

As Vance, and OleMiss can atest to, the SEC is the TOUGHEST and BEST overall conference from top-to-bottom in the nation. And after watching Florida manhandle the supossedly "best team" in NCAA football, I can pretty much say that is OSU was in the SEC, they would have ATLEAST 2 losses, if not three.

Yep 6-3 is always better than 5-0.

CuseCubFan69 · January 9, 2007

I think it's funny how people can predict how many losses a team would have in another conference. You don't know. If you did you would have gotten all the predictions right. Each game has it's own dynamic and things happen that can change who wins at any time. You can make a best guess but it is not a perfect science, not even close. Florida could go undefeated in the Big 10 they could lose 3 games, who really knows.

vance_the_cubs_fan · January 9, 2007

As Vance, and OleMiss can atest to, the SEC is the TOUGHEST and BEST overall conference from top-to-bottom in the nation. And after watching Florida manhandle the supossedly "best team" in NCAA football, I can pretty much say that is OSU was in the SEC, they would have ATLEAST 2 losses, if not three.

Yep 6-3 is always better than 5-0.

Do you honestly think that if the SEC and Big East matched up their teams from top to bottom that the Big East would come out on top?

Florida vs. Louisville

Rugers vs LSU

West Virgina vs Arkansas

South Florida vs Auburn

Cincinnati vs Tennesee

Pittsburgh vs Geogia

Connecticut vs Kentucky

Syracuse vs South Carolina

Do you really think the Big East wins more than 2 of those match-ups?

Chocolate Milk · January 9, 2007

Do those bowl standings really mean much? They are so matchup dependant and most of those games are completely meaningless. Does anyone think that the Big East is the #1 football conference because USF beat East Carolina in the Papajohns.com bowl?

Good performance by some of the conferences in that list, but let's not try to make too much of it.

CuseCubFan69 · January 9, 2007

As Vance, and OleMiss can atest to, the SEC is the TOUGHEST and BEST overall conference from top-to-bottom in the nation. And after watching Florida manhandle the supossedly "best team" in NCAA football, I can pretty much say that is OSU was in the SEC, they would have ATLEAST 2 losses, if not three.

Yep 6-3 is always better than 5-0.

Do you honestly think that if the SEC and Big East matched up their teams from top to bottom that the Big East would come out on top?

Florida vs. Louisville
Rugers vs LSU
West Virgina vs Arkansas
South Florida vs Auburn
Cincinnati vs Tennesee
Pittsburgh vs Geogia
Connecticut vs Kentucky
Syracuse vs South Carolina

Do you really think the Big East wins more than 2 of those match-ups?

The problem is, we will never know. How many times can the SEC play the Big 10 in bowl games? 3 and 4 if you count ND.

I also fail to see the bottom of the SEC on that list.

Its Bowl Season...

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