Carlos Lee: Cubs preferred suitor

[Neuby]

I've been saying this for a few days but a Carlos Lee could happen I think he will take a discount and really wants to play for the Cubs and have a chance to stick it to Kenny Williams and stay in the midwest.

 

I hope he's open to a bench job.

 

Jones getting traded anyday now for a SP. You can buy me a beer when it happens. That leaves Soranio and Murton. I don't know if there's enough money to get Drew signed , I think I might be stretching to get Lee here even though his desire to play here is pretty strong.

[Rob]

I've been saying this for a few days but a Carlos Lee could happen I think he will take a discount and really wants to play for the Cubs and have a chance to stick it to Kenny Williams and stay in the midwest.

 

I hope he's open to a bench job.

 

Jones getting traded anyday now for a SP. You can buy me a beer when it happens. That leaves Soranio and Murton. I don't know if there's enough money to get Drew signed , I think I might be stretching to get Lee here even though his desire to play here is pretty strong.

 

Oh, I know Jones is gone.

 

Thing is, Sweet Lou says Soriano is our right fielder... which gives Lee no place to play (as Hendry loves Murton)

 

Drew might still come, since he can be an average CF defender... but no way CLee can handle it. He can't even really handle left...

[Neuby]

No one wants Lee for CF. I am going under the assumption with what Lou said is that currently Soraino is our right fielder but that can change. Gammons mentions in his article the Cubs don't what spot in the outfield Soranio will play yet.

[soccer10k]

I'm sure C Lee wants to come here even more, now that we have Soriano. It's pretty apparent we are going to get 2 starters as well. We went from bottom of the league, to strong contenders, in one offseason that is not even over yet.

 

Strong contenders we are not... yet.

 

More pitchers needed there are.

 

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The truth Master Yoda speaks. We don't need to waste money on CLee. Jacque will put up solid production for a #6 hitter in CF and Murton will hopefully improve in LF. We don't need any mroe hitting especially at the price Lee will cost.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Getting Soriano makes getting Carlos Lee redunant. What the Cubs need is a JD Drew type LEFTY who can split up the predominately right handed lineup that the Cubs currently have. And if people think having a lefty hitter is "overated" try telling that to Detroit. If they had a very good lefty hitter (and not Casey)....who knows how the WS would have played. Their predominately right handed lineup played into the Cards hands. So, naturally the Cubs need a "lefty" in the middle of the order like a JD Drew.

[MPrior]

Getting Soriano makes getting Carlos Lee redunant. What the Cubs need is a JD Drew type LEFTY who can split up the predominately right handed lineup that the Cubs currently have. And if people think having a lefty hitter is "overated" try telling that to Detroit. If they had a very good lefty hitter (and not Casey)....who knows how the WS would have played. Their predominately right handed lineup played into the Cards hands. So, naturally the Cubs need a "lefty" in the middle of the order like a JD Drew.

 

Unnecessary quotation marks make me "laugh," especially when Chris Farley is saying things like this:

 

That's right, Bennet Brauer here with another commentary. Didn't think the suits would have me back perhaps. Thought they'd have my dairy-air replaced by one of them store mannequin well maybe I'm not "the norm". I'm not "camera friendly", I don't "wear clothes that fit me", I'm not a "heartbreaker", I haven't had "sex with a woman", I don't know "how that works", I don't "fall in line", I'm not "hygienic", I don't "wipe properly", I lack "style", I don't have "self-esteem", I have no "charisma", I don't "own a toothbrush", I don't "let my scabs heal", I can't "reach all the parts of my body", when I sleep I "sweat profusely." But I guess the powers that be will keep signing my pay check until Jack and Jane K. Viewer start to go for the remote so they can get back to commentators who don't "frighten children", who don't "eat their own dandruff", who don't "pop their whiteheads with a compass they used in high school". Thank you, Kevin.

[Tracer Bullet]

Getting Soriano makes getting Carlos Lee redunant. What the Cubs need is a JD Drew type LEFTY who can split up the predominately right handed lineup that the Cubs currently have. And if people think having a lefty hitter is "overated" try telling that to Detroit. If they had a very good lefty hitter (and not Casey)....who knows how the WS would have played. Their predominately right handed lineup played into the Cards hands. So, naturally the Cubs need a "lefty" in the middle of the order like a JD Drew.

 

The WS may have played out differently if the Tigers had some guys who would take a dang pitch already. They were a bunch of free-swinging hacks up there. Doesn't matter to me which side of the plate a guy hits from, I just want one that can get on base (and plus, we're already terrible against LHP, why do we need a lefty?).

 

As for CLee...ugh. I don't want to spend any more of this crazy money on guys who had career years during their walk year. We could be very upset with Soriano's contract quickly if our RF is putting up an .820 OPS for $17m. If we give another huge contract to a beyond-his-prime, overrated OF and waste Murton's cheap production, I'm going postal.

[NorthsideAvenger]

 

The WS may have played out differently if the Tigers had some guys who would take a dang pitch already. They were a bunch of free-swinging hacks up there. Doesn't matter to me which side of the plate a guy hits from, I just want one that can get on base (and plus, we're already terrible against LHP, why do we need a lefty?).

 

The fact that the ONLY two players---non pitchers---who showed up to play were Casey and Guillen (both hit from the left side, with Guillen being a switch hitter), I have no doubt if they had one or two more lefties, they would have won the series.

 

As for CLee...ugh. I don't want to spend any more of this crazy money on guys who had career years during their walk year. We could be very upset with Soriano's contract quickly if our RF is putting up an .820 OPS for $17m. If we give another huge contract to a beyond-his-prime, overrated OF and waste Murton's cheap production, I'm going postal.

 

If the Cubs were an AL team, Carlos Lee would be a fine DH. But his ballooning weight, makes his UNATTRACTIVE for an NL team. Say what you will about Soriano, but atleast Soriano is more the antlethic enough to play at least league average defense, which you can't say about Lee. I would stay away from Lee.

[CuseCubFan69]

How many Type A free agents can the Cubs sign? If the Cubs sign Lee could they still go after Schimdt? IMO, if they did get Lee they would be moving Jones and others for pitching. How mcuh better is Lee over Jones? Is he better?

[LeftCoastCubFan]

How many Type A free agents can the Cubs sign? If the Cubs sign Lee could they still go after Schimdt? IMO, if they did get Lee they would be moving Jones and others for pitching. How mcuh better is Lee over Jones? Is he better?

Any team can sign 5 type A/B players this year plus the number of A/B's lost. Assuming Pierre as a Type B is gone (Aramis doesn't count since he's ours), we can sign 6. DeRosa and Soriano leave us 4 more.

[Danny82]

Getting Soriano makes getting Carlos Lee redunant. What the Cubs need is a JD Drew type LEFTY who can split up the predominately right handed lineup that the Cubs currently have. And if people think having a lefty hitter is "overated" try telling that to Detroit. If they had a very good lefty hitter (and not Casey)....who knows how the WS would have played. Their predominately right handed lineup played into the Cards hands. So, naturally the Cubs need a "lefty" in the middle of the order like a JD Drew.

 

The WS may have played out differently if the Tigers had some guys who would take a dang pitch already. They were a bunch of free-swinging hacks up there. Doesn't matter to me which side of the plate a guy hits from, I just want one that can get on base (and plus, we're already terrible against LHP, why do we need a lefty?).

 

As for CLee...ugh. I don't want to spend any more of this crazy money on guys who had career years during their walk year.

His numbers in 2006 weren't that different than what he did in 2004.

[CuseCubFan69]

How many Type A free agents can the Cubs sign? If the Cubs sign Lee could they still go after Schimdt? IMO, if they did get Lee they would be moving Jones and others for pitching. How mcuh better is Lee over Jones? Is he better?

Any team can sign 5 type A/B players this year plus the number of A/B's lost. Assuming Pierre as a Type B is gone (Aramis doesn't count since he's ours), we can sign 6. DeRosa and Soriano leave us 4 more.

 

Thank you. The Cubs have options a plenty!

[CoolHandLuke]

And now that Soriano is gone, those clubs are well aware there's a serious dropoff from Lee to the next-best bats on the market (J.D. Drew, Gary Matthews Jr. and the soap opera that is Barry Bonds).

 

Blurb about Lee in the ESPN Rumor Central. Does this guy really consider Lee to be a superior hitter to JD Drew and Barry Bonds? Wow.

[Danny82]

And now that Soriano is gone, those clubs are well aware there's a serious dropoff from Lee to the next-best bats on the market (J.D. Drew, Gary Matthews Jr. and the soap opera that is Barry Bonds).

 

Blurb about Lee in the ESPN Rumor Central. Does this guy really consider Lee to be a superior hitter to JD Drew and Barry Bonds? Wow.

It's not an indefensible position to say that Lee is a better hitter than Drew. Drew has the better OBP, but Lee has the better power.

Edited November 20, 2006 by Danny82

[goonys evil twin]

And now that Soriano is gone, those clubs are well aware there's a serious dropoff from Lee to the next-best bats on the market (J.D. Drew, Gary Matthews Jr. and the soap opera that is Barry Bonds).

 

Blurb about Lee in the ESPN Rumor Central. Does this guy really consider Lee to be a superior hitter to JD Drew and Barry Bonds? Wow.

It's not an indefensible position to say that Lee is a better hitter than Drew.

 

In what way?

[E.J.]

And now that Soriano is gone, those clubs are well aware there's a serious dropoff from Lee to the next-best bats on the market (J.D. Drew, Gary Matthews Jr. and the soap opera that is Barry Bonds).

 

Blurb about Lee in the ESPN Rumor Central. Does this guy really consider Lee to be a superior hitter to JD Drew and Barry Bonds? Wow.

 

It's ESPN. What do you expect?

[CoolHandLuke]

And now that Soriano is gone, those clubs are well aware there's a serious dropoff from Lee to the next-best bats on the market (J.D. Drew, Gary Matthews Jr. and the soap opera that is Barry Bonds).

 

Blurb about Lee in the ESPN Rumor Central. Does this guy really consider Lee to be a superior hitter to JD Drew and Barry Bonds? Wow.

It's not an indefensible position to say that Lee is a better hitter than Drew. Drew has the better OBP, but Lee has the better power.

 

The why does Drew have a higher career slugging average? The only way that Lee is better than Drew is that he is more a sure thing to play 150 games. When Drew is on the field he is superior to Lee in almost every single way.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

And now that Soriano is gone, those clubs are well aware there's a serious dropoff from Lee to the next-best bats on the market (J.D. Drew, Gary Matthews Jr. and the soap opera that is Barry Bonds).

 

Blurb about Lee in the ESPN Rumor Central. Does this guy really consider Lee to be a superior hitter to JD Drew and Barry Bonds? Wow.

It's not an indefensible position to say that Lee is a better hitter than Drew. Drew has the better OBP, but Lee has the better power.

 

The why does Drew have a higher career slugging average? The only way that Lee is better than Drew is that he is more a sure thing to play 150 games. When Drew is on the field he is superior to Lee in almost every single way.

 

Maybe Lee has intangibles?

[CubinNY]

And now that Soriano is gone, those clubs are well aware there's a serious dropoff from Lee to the next-best bats on the market (J.D. Drew, Gary Matthews Jr. and the soap opera that is Barry Bonds).

 

Blurb about Lee in the ESPN Rumor Central. Does this guy really consider Lee to be a superior hitter to JD Drew and Barry Bonds? Wow.

It's not an indefensible position to say that Lee is a better hitter than Drew. Drew has the better OBP, but Lee has the better power.

 

The why does Drew have a higher career slugging average? The only way that Lee is better than Drew is that he is more a sure thing to play 150 games. When Drew is on the field he is superior to Lee in almost every single way.

 

Maybe Lee has intangibles?

 

Will never know becuase they are intagible, but it could be true.

[Andy]

And now that Soriano is gone, those clubs are well aware there's a serious dropoff from Lee to the next-best bats on the market (J.D. Drew, Gary Matthews Jr. and the soap opera that is Barry Bonds).

 

Blurb about Lee in the ESPN Rumor Central. Does this guy really consider Lee to be a superior hitter to JD Drew and Barry Bonds? Wow.

 

It's ESPN. What do you expect?

I expect them to anoint Bonds their new god, which makes this even more surprising.

[St.Paul Cub]

 

Maybe Lee has intangibles?

 

Is durability an intangible?

 

Drew is probably more talented, but I thought he was a **** ever since his initial refusal to sign with Philly. If he's a Cub I'll cheer for him, but I'd rather not have him at all.

[Uber]

Told that Carlos Lee might command as much as $95 million in his next contract, an Orioles executive said he was "not sure" whether the team would be willing to go that high.

Since Lee would almost surely rather play in Houston and maybe a few other places as well, the Orioles will have to be the high bidders if they hope to sign him. The problem there is that Lee will likely be even more overpaid than Alfonso Soriano once each enters the second half of his new contract.

 

According to the Houston Chronicle, the Astros have a standing offer to Carlos Lee of at least five years at no less than $12 million a year.

Even if Lee wants to play in Houston, it'd be quite a surprise if he settled for less than $75 million for five years or $84 million over six. Nine figures can hardly be ruled out at this point.