College Football - Week of 11/25

[cubweiser03]

A 2 loss LSU is more deserving than a 2 loss ND. Notre Dame's key victory is over Georgia Tech. LSU has victories over Arkansas and Tennesee.

 

I'd love to see a bowl match-up between ND and LSU.

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about what should happen, but rather what will happen-and there is almost no way that LSU is chosen over ND this year.

 

This is one of many reasons why I despise the current system. It rewards teams that make the NCAA and the bowls the most money, not the teams that earn things on the field of play.

I don't have that much of a problem with Notre Dame and I certainly disagree with some of the opinions they have a very weak schedule. But, LSU is more deserving of a BCS appearance this year because of their realtive wins.

I do think an LSU/ND BCS match-up would be a lot of fun to watch though.

 

No we want a LSU/UM Rose Bowl. :)

The Rose isnt going to take the loser of Florida/Arkansas, they will take LSU. Id be shocked if they take ND.

[dew1679666265]

A 2 loss LSU is more deserving than a 2 loss ND. Notre Dame's key victory is over Georgia Tech. LSU has victories over Arkansas and Tennesee.

 

I'd love to see a bowl match-up between ND and LSU.

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about what should happen, but rather what will happen-and there is almost no way that LSU is chosen over ND this year.

 

This is one of many reasons why I despise the current system. It rewards teams that make the NCAA and the bowls the most money, not the teams that earn things on the field of play.

I don't have that much of a problem with Notre Dame and I certainly disagree with some of the opinions they have a very weak schedule. But, LSU is more deserving of a BCS appearance this year because of their realtive wins.

I do think an LSU/ND BCS match-up would be a lot of fun to watch though.

 

I really hope this doesn't happen as I graduated from LSU and am a big Notre Dame fan. I had this happen back in '97 or '98 and hated the situation.

 

Haha. That is a bad situation, but I would enjoy watching the game. :D The two compare very well.

[dew1679666265]

A 2 loss LSU is more deserving than a 2 loss ND. Notre Dame's key victory is over Georgia Tech. LSU has victories over Arkansas and Tennesee.

 

I'd love to see a bowl match-up between ND and LSU.

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about what should happen, but rather what will happen-and there is almost no way that LSU is chosen over ND this year.

 

This is one of many reasons why I despise the current system. It rewards teams that make the NCAA and the bowls the most money, not the teams that earn things on the field of play.

I don't have that much of a problem with Notre Dame and I certainly disagree with some of the opinions they have a very weak schedule. But, LSU is more deserving of a BCS appearance this year because of their realtive wins.

I do think an LSU/ND BCS match-up would be a lot of fun to watch though.

 

No we want a LSU/UM Rose Bowl. :)

The Rose isnt going to take the loser of Florida/Arkansas, they will take LSU. Id be shocked if they take ND.

 

Your probably right, I'm thinking in terms of simply a game that would be fun to watch. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Rose take Florida if they lose. It'd be interesting to see the vaunted Michigan D face the overrated Tim Tebow. :)

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'd like to see LSU play Michigan. That would be a fun game to watch.

[dew1679666265]

I'd like to see LSU play Michigan. That would be a fun game to watch.

 

I do agree with that.

[CDBears1259]

A 2 loss LSU is more deserving than a 2 loss ND. Notre Dame's key victory is over Georgia Tech. LSU has victories over Arkansas and Tennesee.

 

I'd love to see a bowl match-up between ND and LSU.

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about what should happen, but rather what will happen-and there is almost no way that LSU is chosen over ND this year.

 

This is one of many reasons why I despise the current system. It rewards teams that make the NCAA and the bowls the most money, not the teams that earn things on the field of play.

I don't have that much of a problem with Notre Dame and I certainly disagree with some of the opinions they have a very weak schedule. But, LSU is more deserving of a BCS appearance this year because of their realtive wins.

I do think an LSU/ND BCS match-up would be a lot of fun to watch though.

 

I really hope this doesn't happen as I graduated from LSU and am a big Notre Dame fan. I had this happen back in '97 or '98 and hated the situation.

 

Haha. That is a bad situation, but I would enjoy watching the game. :D The two compare very well.

Actually, I don't think they compare very well at all. LSU's offensive strength is passing, a weak point for ND's D. ND's offensive strong point is passing, but LSU is equally strong against the pass and the run. From what I've seen of ND, I think LSU's D would wear them out (ND would likely have to pass all day and LSU's DB's are among the best in the nation. Jamarcus Russell along with LSU's receivers, IMO, would eat ND's DB up. ND might be able to contain LSU's running game, but the passing game would eventually open that up.

[NewUserName]

USC is a good football team.

 

I love the crap out of Weis, but this team laid up two stinkbombs in the two biggest games of the year. And I have no idea why.

 

Quinn's stats belie that he was missing his most dependable target (Carlson) and Rhema/Freeman played like crap, combining for about 10 drops. His receivers and Oline screwed him on a couple of occasions. He played very well considering the circumstances, especially since he played hurt. Hope he enjoys the trip to NY although he obviously won't win the Heisman.

 

I echo DCF. Thanks for the awful secondary, Ty. If ever there was proof that Weis will need a couple more years of recruits to make this team a real contender, this game was it. Just not enough talent yet.

 

Let's have Arkansas please win the SEC title game. That way the Rose Bowl can take Florida to avoid the ridiculousness of an ND/UM rematch.

 

All that said, this post is absurd with no further comment:

 

I don't want to hear crap from any ND fan. This is your team, you deserve this for how highly hyped up they were from day one.

 

Legacy of Brady Quinn: No big wins, against anyone. Heisman? Are you joking?

 

The Great, fat, Charlie Weis: Not a single big win, best game of his career is a loss to USC in 2005. Wow.

 

I can't believe what Bob Davie was blubbering out while he watched his beloved Irish go down: "Look, the only losses this team has had in the past year has been to three top 5 teams!"

 

Yeah, and you got blown out in every single one of them.

 

There are only 2 legitimate teams on the schedule, and ND lost by 20+ to each of them. Congrats.

 

The Irish are back, indeed!

 

Laid eggs? They were outclassed. Their only other games were against second tier programs, so of course they looked better.

 

Come on, man. Laid eggs?

Yes, laid eggs. Quinn has thrown 5 INTs all year and 3 of them came against UM. That's a laid egg. Hell he didn't even have any against USC whose D is pretty damn good too. Rhema hasn't dropped passes all year until this game. Freeman looked like crap. USC outplayed ND but that doesn't mean ND played their best game. I give all sorts of credit to UM and USC for playing the way they did in those games, but they weren't responsible for Rhema's not holding onto the football today or for ND's offensive line crapping out in the UM game.

 

The only consolation is that we likely didn't get beat bad enough to fall out of the BCS.

 

Wait, the reason Quinn threw those interceptions was purely because of him laying an egg and not because of the UM defense ?(and the supposed best defensive line in the nation?)

 

Yes, you can look really good against service acadamies, maybe only throw one or two picks. Congrats.

 

USC and Michigan? More talented than ND. Maybe Weis can recruit very well, we'll soon see.

 

Yeah, that great UM defense that gave up 503 yards to OSU. What an awesome defense.

 

If OSU would have come out with that offense against any team in the country they would easily put up 500+ yards. I have to give Tressel credit, he realized Michigan would score and that his regular offense would not work against Michigans defense. He came out in 5 wide with 3 step drops and took Michigans front 7 out of the game. Tressel probably would use that offense against most teams but I think he realized this was the way to beat Michigan. He also had the talent to pull it off.

 

Yeah, cmon man i think thats a bit unfair. OSU went into that game with a nations best 7 points a game. Michigan put up 39. Does that mean OSU's defense isnt awesome either? I'll match up both of these defenses to any in the country. USC/Texas had very good defenses that got lit up last year too. The offenses of UM and OSU are pretty damn good. If OSU offense sucked your statement could hold more water.

 

Oh yeah. ND had 273 yards against UM. ND had 404 against USC.

 

 

I think I was defending Michigan. I was just saying that Michigan would score against OSU and OSU would have a tough time against Michigans defense if they tried to do what they normally do. So Tressel went with something unexpected that caught Michigan offguard.

 

By the way OSU will beat USC by 3 touchdowns.

[cubweiser03]

I think I was defending Michigan. I was just saying that Michigan would score against OSU and OSU would have a tough time against Michigans defense if they tried to do what they normally do. So Tressel went with something unexpected that caught Michigan offguard.

 

By the way OSU will beat USC by 3 touchdowns.

 

Yeah sorry. I was agreeing with you, i was trying to refer to soccers post :)

[cubweiser03]

The harris poll is out. USC gained 90 points this weekend. UM gained 14 and Florida lost 3. The computers will put USC over the top of Michigan this week. They needed that.

[soccer10k]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

[dew1679666265]

A 2 loss LSU is more deserving than a 2 loss ND. Notre Dame's key victory is over Georgia Tech. LSU has victories over Arkansas and Tennesee.

 

I'd love to see a bowl match-up between ND and LSU.

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about what should happen, but rather what will happen-and there is almost no way that LSU is chosen over ND this year.

 

This is one of many reasons why I despise the current system. It rewards teams that make the NCAA and the bowls the most money, not the teams that earn things on the field of play.

I don't have that much of a problem with Notre Dame and I certainly disagree with some of the opinions they have a very weak schedule. But, LSU is more deserving of a BCS appearance this year because of their realtive wins.

I do think an LSU/ND BCS match-up would be a lot of fun to watch though.

 

I really hope this doesn't happen as I graduated from LSU and am a big Notre Dame fan. I had this happen back in '97 or '98 and hated the situation.

 

Haha. That is a bad situation, but I would enjoy watching the game. :D The two compare very well.

Actually, I don't think they compare very well at all. LSU's offensive strength is passing, a weak point for ND's D. ND's offensive strong point is passing, but LSU is equally strong against the pass and the run. From what I've seen of ND, I think LSU's D would wear them out (ND would likely have to pass all day and LSU's DB's are among the best in the nation. Jamarcus Russell along with LSU's receivers, IMO, would eat ND's DB up. ND might be able to contain LSU's running game, but the passing game would eventually open that up.

 

That all depends on the day JaMarcus Russell had. He's terribly inconsistent which is the reason, I believe, they have two losses.

Also, ND struggles with deep passing games. Chad Henne to Mario Manningham toasted them, Booty deep to Jarrett, etc. Their secondary doesn't have the speed to keep up with deep threats.

LSU's strength is working the ball down the field through the air. I haven't seen them do well consistently going deep down the field. Russell's got the arm strength without question (probably the strongest arm in the nation) but his inconsistent accuracy often gets him in trouble throwing deep.

The LSU offense excels by being physical and dominating through strength, wearing down opponents. I think ND could defend that well for a while, but eventually would lose the game.

All this is moot, though, if the bad JaMarcus Russell shows up like he did against Florida.

[jjgman21]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

[CuseCubFan69]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

[soccer10k]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

 

Washington State, UNLV, The Citadel and one TBA.

 

Link

[CubinNY]

ND was exposed for the weak team that they are. Now USC must lose to UCLA and Florida must lose to Arkansas for Chaos to reign.

[Andy]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

Boise and ND both look to be near-locks for BCS bowls. With Michigan already in the Rose Bowl/NC game, that leaves one spot for LSU, Florida (if they lose to Arkansas) or Louisville (if Rutgers beats WV).

 

I'm guessing Florida loses to Arkansas and takes that final at-large slot, leaving Wisconsin vs LSU as the greatest non-BCS game of all time.

[dew1679666265]

ND was exposed for the weak team that they are. Now USC must lose to UCLA and Florida must lose to Arkansas for Chaos to reign.

 

Florida better watch out for Arkansas. I haven't been that impressed by the Gators all year and that dual RB system for Arkansas is deadly. Houston Nutt just needs to get smart again and start Mustain instead of Casey Dick.

[Andy]

ND was exposed for the weak team that they are.

This is what I knew was coming after that USC game and why I'm even more pissed off that they didn't put up a better fight.

[jjgman21]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

 

Washington State, UNLV, The Citadel and one TBA.

 

Link

 

it will more than likely be a MAC team. the usual MO is a Pac 10/Big 12 team/Big East team, a Mountain West or WAC team (not one or the other, I forget which conference UNLV and SDSU are in), a MAC team, and a total patsy.

 

I think they stacked weak non conference schedule knowing Barry would be gone and wanting to give Beliema a good start. turned out to bite him in the ass. play an Oregon or Colorado like they used to and they are fourth or fifth in the BCS right now.

 

 

edit - I think Buffalo might have given them alot of dough to schedule them as well.

Edited November 27, 2006 by jjgman21

[CuseCubFan69]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

 

Washington State, UNLV, The Citadel and one TBA.

 

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Thanks!

[CuseCubFan69]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

 

Washington State, UNLV, The Citadel and one TBA.

 

Link

 

it will more than likely be a MAC team. the usual MO is a Pac 10/Big 12 team/Big East team, a Mountain West or WAC team (not one or the other, I forget which conference UNLV and SDSU are in), a MAC team, and a total patsy.

 

I think they stacked weak non conference schedule knowing Barry would be gone and wanting to give Beliema a good start. turned out to bite him in the ass. play an Oregon or Colorado like they used to and they are fourth or fifth in the BCS right now.

 

I think every BCS team should play at least 2 BCS teams out of conference.

[soccer10k]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

 

Washington State, UNLV, The Citadel and one TBA.

 

Link

 

it will more than likely be a MAC team. the usual MO is a Pac 10/Big 12 team/Big East team, a Mountain West or WAC team (not one or the other, I forget which conference UNLV and SDSU are in), a MAC team, and a total patsy.

 

I think they stacked weak non conference schedule knowing Barry would be gone and wanting to give Beliema a good start. turned out to bite him in the ass. play an Oregon or Colorado like they used to and they are fourth or fifth in the BCS right now.

 

UNLV and SDSU are in the Mountain West and yeah, if they would have scheduled somebody better they would be rated much higher. The computers killed Wisconsin this week. I look forward to their bowl game against an SEC team.

[jjgman21]

 

I think every BCS team should play at least 2 BCS teams out of conference.

 

this weak scheduling all began with Spurrier at the beginning of his time at Florida.

 

teams should schedule tougher out of conference teams, but everyone wants to be able to play .500 conference ball an still get a payday. get rid of some of the crappy bowls, and you will see teams scheduling tougher out of conference teams.

[soccer10k]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

 

Washington State, UNLV, The Citadel and one TBA.

 

Link

 

it will more than likely be a MAC team. the usual MO is a Pac 10/Big 12 team/Big East team, a Mountain West or WAC team (not one or the other, I forget which conference UNLV and SDSU are in), a MAC team, and a total patsy.

 

I think they stacked weak non conference schedule knowing Barry would be gone and wanting to give Beliema a good start. turned out to bite him in the ass. play an Oregon or Colorado like they used to and they are fourth or fifth in the BCS right now.

 

I think every BCS team should play at least 2 BCS teams out of conference.

 

I've always wanted to see something like they do in college basketball - an ACC/Big 10 challenge sort of thing.

[Andy]

New BCS standings

 

1. OSU

2. USC

3. Michigan

4. Florida

5. LSU

6. Louisville

7. Wisconsin

8. Boise State

9. Arkansas

10. Notre Dame

 

Nothing too surprising here. USC is easily ahead of Michigan for second place.

 

I thought LSU would jump the Badgers. Didn't think beating Pitt while WV losing to South Florida would let Louisville leap them though.

 

Wisconsin drops 4 slots in the computers while idle. that's alot. c'mon STSU and Buffalo. help a brother out here man.

 

What's Wisconsin's out of conference schedule next year?

 

Washington State, UNLV, The Citadel and one TBA.

 

Link

 

it will more than likely be a MAC team. the usual MO is a Pac 10/Big 12 team/Big East team, a Mountain West or WAC team (not one or the other, I forget which conference UNLV and SDSU are in), a MAC team, and a total patsy.

 

I think they stacked weak non conference schedule knowing Barry would be gone and wanting to give Beliema a good start. turned out to bite him in the ass. play an Oregon or Colorado like they used to and they are fourth or fifth in the BCS right now.

 

I think every BCS team should play at least 2 BCS teams out of conference.

I'd be happy with 1. Two seems like it'd be really hard to arrange.