College Football - Week of 11/25

[Flames24Rulz]

I don't want to hear crap from any ND fan. This is your team, you deserve this for how highly hyped up they were from day one.

 

Legacy of Brady Quinn: No big wins, against anyone. Heisman? Are you joking?

 

The Great, fat, Charlie Weis: Not a single big win, best game of his career is a loss to USC in 2005. Wow.

 

I can't believe what Bob Davie was blubbering out while he watched his beloved Irish go down: "Look, the only losses this team has had in the past year has been to three top 5 teams!"

 

Yeah, and you got blown out in every single one of them.

 

There are only 2 legitimate teams on the schedule, and ND lost by 20+ to each of them. Congrats.

 

The Irish are back, indeed!

 

What an arrogant classless post. Can I ask what college team you chear for?

 

He's a tOSU fan who went to Illinois, if I remember correctly.

 

Notre Dame's defense wasn't good at all, but the game was closer than the score indicated. ND drove down the field several times on USC that many times did not result in any points. ND isn't as bad as Slick is making it out to be.

[jjgman21]

I just don't see a mature kid leading the post Army victory 'beat SC' hoopla. nor do I see a mature kid being smirky during news conference or smacking gum getting off the bus at the biggest game of his life with an aloof yet cocky look on his face. Quinn did all of these things

 

I have not seen alot of him before, but what I have seen in the past week does not impress me in the least.

If you knew Brady's career better you would know how rare the "Beat SC" thing was. The guy doesn't usually let people know what he's really thinking. As for the news conferences, you'd be shocked at the stupidity of some of the SB writers' questions.

 

Trust me, he's gonna be fine.

 

I'll take your word for it. it was just kind of a growing feeling I had, and when they showed him getting off the bus, he looked like he had zero focus going into the game whatsoever, so that was the capper for me. you recognize these things happening, so I'm sure you can see how I could get that feeling about him with the limited knowledge I did have.

 

 

Raisen - I had no opinion about Leinart and have no idea what your point is.

[Milli1306]

I don't know about you, but personally, I don't think you have to be serious all the time. Just because he was loose and looked like he was having a good time doesn't mean he wasn't going to be able to focus on the game. He didn't let the game consume him, and I think that is a mark of maturity in and of itself.

[jjgman21]

I don't want to hear crap from any ND fan. This is your team, you deserve this for how highly hyped up they were from day one.

 

Legacy of Brady Quinn: No big wins, against anyone. Heisman? Are you joking?

 

The Great, fat, Charlie Weis: Not a single big win, best game of his career is a loss to USC in 2005. Wow.

 

I can't believe what Bob Davie was blubbering out while he watched his beloved Irish go down: "Look, the only losses this team has had in the past year has been to three top 5 teams!"

 

Yeah, and you got blown out in every single one of them.

 

There are only 2 legitimate teams on the schedule, and ND lost by 20+ to each of them. Congrats.

 

The Irish are back, indeed!

 

What an arrogant classless post. Can I ask what college team you chear for?

 

He's a tOSU fan who went to Illinois, if I remember correctly.

 

Notre Dame's defense wasn't good at all, but the game was closer than the score indicated. ND drove down the field several times on USC that many times did not result in any points. ND isn't as bad as Slick is making it out to be.

 

I think the final score was quite indicative of how close the game was.

 

as much of a problem as the D was, that was expected. what wasn't was the horrendous offensive line play and the drops. Brady also missed a sure TD on that first drive, over threw another easy TD on a fourth down (out of the endzone? WTF?), etc etc. sure the offense drove the ball, but once the field was shortened ND stalled time after time because USC were able to rush four and drop seven back, and still harrass Quinn all night long.

 

ND probably isn't as bad as Slick is making them out to be, but they aren't a BCS team IMO. they are a Wake Forest upset away from having zero victories against top 25 teams, and they had a real struggle against GT.

[jaydee]

I agree the media's love for ND is sickening. Weis makes so many bad calls during a game, hopefully he can recruit (although there is no way he can match USC recruiting)

[jaydee]

I just don't see a mature kid leading the post Army victory 'beat SC' hoopla. nor do I see a mature kid being smirky during news conference or smacking gum getting off the bus at the biggest game of his life with an aloof yet cocky look on his face. Quinn did all of these things

 

I have not seen alot of him before, but what I have seen in the past week does not impress me in the least.

 

So I take it you didn't think much of Matt Leinart coming out of USC either, right?

 

Leinart actually won a Heisman and won most of the big games he played in. Quinn can pad his stats against Army and Stanford, but he hasn't won a big game in his career I don't think.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Raisen - I had no opinion about Leinart and have no idea what your point is.

 

Leinart displayed more smirkiness, aloofness, cockiness, etc. than Quinn has. He really got into the Hollywood scene. But it didn't hurt his play on the field and he's looked good so far in the NFL too.

[Andy]

I just don't see a mature kid leading the post Army victory 'beat SC' hoopla. nor do I see a mature kid being smirky during news conference or smacking gum getting off the bus at the biggest game of his life with an aloof yet cocky look on his face. Quinn did all of these things

 

I have not seen alot of him before, but what I have seen in the past week does not impress me in the least.

 

So I take it you didn't think much of Matt Leinart coming out of USC either, right?

 

Leinart actually won a Heisman and won most of the big games he played in. Quinn can pad his stats against Army and Stanford, but he hasn't won a big game in his career I don't think.

Thanks to Ty Willingham, he hasn't played in many.

[Flames24Rulz]

I don't want to hear crap from any ND fan. This is your team, you deserve this for how highly hyped up they were from day one.

 

Legacy of Brady Quinn: No big wins, against anyone. Heisman? Are you joking?

 

The Great, fat, Charlie Weis: Not a single big win, best game of his career is a loss to USC in 2005. Wow.

 

I can't believe what Bob Davie was blubbering out while he watched his beloved Irish go down: "Look, the only losses this team has had in the past year has been to three top 5 teams!"

 

Yeah, and you got blown out in every single one of them.

 

There are only 2 legitimate teams on the schedule, and ND lost by 20+ to each of them. Congrats.

 

The Irish are back, indeed!

 

What an arrogant classless post. Can I ask what college team you chear for?

 

He's a tOSU fan who went to Illinois, if I remember correctly.

 

Notre Dame's defense wasn't good at all, but the game was closer than the score indicated. ND drove down the field several times on USC that many times did not result in any points. ND isn't as bad as Slick is making it out to be.

 

I think the final score was quite indicative of how close the game was.

 

as much of a problem as the D was, that was expected. what wasn't was the horrendous offensive line play and the drops. Brady also missed a sure TD on that first drive, over threw another easy TD on a fourth down (out of the endzone? WTF?), etc etc. sure the offense drove the ball, but once the field was shortened ND stalled time after time because USC were able to rush four and drop seven back, and still harrass Quinn all night long.

 

ND probably isn't as bad as Slick is making them out to be, but they aren't a BCS team IMO. they are a Wake Forest upset away from having zero victories against top 25 teams, and they had a real struggle against GT.

 

The offensive line was horrendous, especially when USC was only rushing 4 and they were still putting pressure on Brady. McKnight was very good at times, and also extremely bad at times. I think he had 3 drops, which all turned out to be huge. The wideouts for ND were very disappointing IMO with all of the drops that they had in the game.

 

I still think ND deserves to go to a BCS bowl...their two losses only came to the #2 and #3 teams in the nation. Yes they weren't that close, but still you would have a hard time trying to find any other worthwhile teams to take over ND in a BCS game. A 10-2 record is nothing to be ashamed of, especially when those two losses came against two of the three best teams in the country.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I just don't see a mature kid leading the post Army victory 'beat SC' hoopla. nor do I see a mature kid being smirky during news conference or smacking gum getting off the bus at the biggest game of his life with an aloof yet cocky look on his face. Quinn did all of these things

 

I have not seen alot of him before, but what I have seen in the past week does not impress me in the least.

 

So I take it you didn't think much of Matt Leinart coming out of USC either, right?

 

Leinart actually won a Heisman and won most of the big games he played in. Quinn can pad his stats against Army and Stanford, but he hasn't won a big game in his career I don't think.

 

I agree Brady Quinn hasn't done too well in his big games the past two years, but jjgman21 was comparing Quinn to Ryan Leaf and saying Quinn would fail in the NFL because of these instances. That seems a bit unreasonable since so many college athletes (including Leinart) are guilty of the same thing.

[Mark_R]

Maybe ND can end their dreadful bowl streak vs. a crappy ACC or Big East team in a BCS game!

 

Even more awesome would be if they lose (again, to be expected at this point. Something about December and January that throws them off, its an odd phenomenon) and Brady Quinn looks like a confused mule in the desert.

[Warpticon]

I just noticed that there were three SEC v. ACC games, today and SEC swept. That can't be common.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

I still think ND deserves to go to a BCS bowl...their two losses only came to the #2 and #3 teams in the nation. Yes they weren't that close, but still you would have a hard time trying to find any other worthwhile teams to take over ND in a BCS game. A 10-2 record is nothing to be ashamed of, especially when those two losses came against two of the three best teams in the country.

 

My main argument against ND is that they really haven't beat a quality team. Yeah, their only 2 losses came to really good teams, but they only really played 2 really good teams. (And they got beat up in both of those games) Michigan State was overrated (and it shows), Georgia Tech isn't exactly a blockbuster win, Penn State? Come on. Teams like Louisville and Rutgers that people consider weaker both beat the #3 ranked team in the country when they played them. Plus, Louisville played 9 bowl teams. More than Notre Dame, more than Ohio State (according to ESPN. I haven't checked myself). If Rutgers beats West Virginia, I see no reason that the Big East shouldn't have two BCS teams. If ND can sneak in and steal that final spot remains to be seen. It'd be tough to count LSU out of it. But Notre Dame does bring in the money, so it's going to be interesting how things will play out.

[soccer10k]

It will be very interesting to see what happens with my idle Badgers in this weeks BCS. the three teams directly in front of them all lost, so they should move up, but the two teams directly behind them won and may move past.

 

my hope, not because I think they deserve it, more to show how stupid the ranking and BCS systems are is:

 

Badgers move up three to 5, UCLA beats USC, Arkansas beats Florida, Rutgers beats WV and the Big Ten finishes 1,2,3 in the BCS and the BCS bowl games chock full of teams that aren't even in the top 10 of any poll or the BCS.

 

maybe then they will realize that no amount of tinkering is going to work, they blow this whole thing up, and start over.

 

Too bad that Wisconsin didn't beat anybody and doesn't deserve to be ranked #3.

[soccer10k]

Title: OSU v USC

Rose: Michigan v FL/Ark loser

Sugar: ND v FL/Ark winner

Orange: GT v Louisville

Fiesta: Ok/Neb winner v Boise State

 

I don't see any way the Rose picks a rematch over the SEC loser.

 

There's no way a 3-loss Arkansas team makes the BCS. LSU I could see but not Arkansas. They lost their chance by blowing the game to LSU. Othewise, you make some good picks, though Rutgers could very well beat WV Saturday to win the Big East.

 

I agree, If Florida loses to Arkansas, they'll have a good shot to make a BCS bowl. If Florida wins, Arkansas will have 3 losses and will have lost to 2 loss LSU and I don't see Arkansas getting a BCS bowl under this scenario.

[soccer10k]

USC is a good football team.

 

I love the crap out of Weis, but this team laid up two stinkbombs in the two biggest games of the year. And I have no idea why.

 

Quinn's stats belie that he was missing his most dependable target (Carlson) and Rhema/Freeman played like crap, combining for about 10 drops. His receivers and Oline screwed him on a couple of occasions. He played very well considering the circumstances, especially since he played hurt. Hope he enjoys the trip to NY although he obviously won't win the Heisman.

 

I echo DCF. Thanks for the awful secondary, Ty. If ever there was proof that Weis will need a couple more years of recruits to make this team a real contender, this game was it. Just not enough talent yet.

 

Let's have Arkansas please win the SEC title game. That way the Rose Bowl can take Florida to avoid the ridiculousness of an ND/UM rematch.

 

All that said, this post is absurd with no further comment:

 

I don't want to hear crap from any ND fan. This is your team, you deserve this for how highly hyped up they were from day one.

 

Legacy of Brady Quinn: No big wins, against anyone. Heisman? Are you joking?

 

The Great, fat, Charlie Weis: Not a single big win, best game of his career is a loss to USC in 2005. Wow.

 

I can't believe what Bob Davie was blubbering out while he watched his beloved Irish go down: "Look, the only losses this team has had in the past year has been to three top 5 teams!"

 

Yeah, and you got blown out in every single one of them.

 

There are only 2 legitimate teams on the schedule, and ND lost by 20+ to each of them. Congrats.

 

The Irish are back, indeed!

 

Laid eggs? They were outclassed. Their only other games were against second tier programs, so of course they looked better.

 

Come on, man. Laid eggs?

Yes, laid eggs. Quinn has thrown 5 INTs all year and 3 of them came against UM. That's a laid egg. Hell he didn't even have any against USC whose D is pretty damn good too. Rhema hasn't dropped passes all year until this game. Freeman looked like crap. USC outplayed ND but that doesn't mean ND played their best game. I give all sorts of credit to UM and USC for playing the way they did in those games, but they weren't responsible for Rhema's not holding onto the football today or for ND's offensive line crapping out in the UM game.

 

The only consolation is that we likely didn't get beat bad enough to fall out of the BCS.

 

Wait, the reason Quinn threw those interceptions was purely because of him laying an egg and not because of the UM defense ?(and the supposed best defensive line in the nation?)

 

Yes, you can look really good against service acadamies, maybe only throw one or two picks. Congrats.

 

USC and Michigan? More talented than ND. Maybe Weis can recruit very well, we'll soon see.

 

Yeah, that great UM defense that gave up 503 yards to OSU. What an awesome defense.

[soccer10k]

so this one will probably turn into a blow up, but bold prediction here...

 

Brady Quinn is the next Ryan Leaf.

 

the kid just seems rather immature to me and not ready for pro life.

No way. Brady has a fantastic head on his shoulders and he's going to look GREAT in silver and black.

 

Fixed.

[soccer10k]

I just don't see a mature kid leading the post Army victory 'beat SC' hoopla. nor do I see a mature kid being smirky during news conference or smacking gum getting off the bus at the biggest game of his life with an aloof yet cocky look on his face. Quinn did all of these things

 

I have not seen alot of him before, but what I have seen in the past week does not impress me in the least.

 

He's a college kid for christ sakes. These things happen. It's called school spirit. Heard of it?

[soccer10k]

I just don't see a mature kid leading the post Army victory 'beat SC' hoopla. nor do I see a mature kid being smirky during news conference or smacking gum getting off the bus at the biggest game of his life with an aloof yet cocky look on his face. Quinn did all of these things

 

I have not seen alot of him before, but what I have seen in the past week does not impress me in the least.

 

So I take it you didn't think much of Matt Leinart coming out of USC either, right?

 

Leinart actually won a Heisman and won most of the big games he played in. Quinn can pad his stats against Army and Stanford, but he hasn't won a big game in his career I don't think.

 

I agree Brady Quinn hasn't done too well in his big games the past two years, but jjgman21 was comparing Quinn to Ryan Leaf and saying Quinn would fail in the NFL because of these instances. That seems a bit unreasonable since so many college athletes (including Leinart) are guilty of the same thing.

 

I couldn't agree more.

[NewUserName]

USC is a good football team.

 

I love the crap out of Weis, but this team laid up two stinkbombs in the two biggest games of the year. And I have no idea why.

 

Quinn's stats belie that he was missing his most dependable target (Carlson) and Rhema/Freeman played like crap, combining for about 10 drops. His receivers and Oline screwed him on a couple of occasions. He played very well considering the circumstances, especially since he played hurt. Hope he enjoys the trip to NY although he obviously won't win the Heisman.

 

I echo DCF. Thanks for the awful secondary, Ty. If ever there was proof that Weis will need a couple more years of recruits to make this team a real contender, this game was it. Just not enough talent yet.

 

Let's have Arkansas please win the SEC title game. That way the Rose Bowl can take Florida to avoid the ridiculousness of an ND/UM rematch.

 

All that said, this post is absurd with no further comment:

 

I don't want to hear crap from any ND fan. This is your team, you deserve this for how highly hyped up they were from day one.

 

Legacy of Brady Quinn: No big wins, against anyone. Heisman? Are you joking?

 

The Great, fat, Charlie Weis: Not a single big win, best game of his career is a loss to USC in 2005. Wow.

 

I can't believe what Bob Davie was blubbering out while he watched his beloved Irish go down: "Look, the only losses this team has had in the past year has been to three top 5 teams!"

 

Yeah, and you got blown out in every single one of them.

 

There are only 2 legitimate teams on the schedule, and ND lost by 20+ to each of them. Congrats.

 

The Irish are back, indeed!

 

Laid eggs? They were outclassed. Their only other games were against second tier programs, so of course they looked better.

 

Come on, man. Laid eggs?

Yes, laid eggs. Quinn has thrown 5 INTs all year and 3 of them came against UM. That's a laid egg. Hell he didn't even have any against USC whose D is pretty damn good too. Rhema hasn't dropped passes all year until this game. Freeman looked like crap. USC outplayed ND but that doesn't mean ND played their best game. I give all sorts of credit to UM and USC for playing the way they did in those games, but they weren't responsible for Rhema's not holding onto the football today or for ND's offensive line crapping out in the UM game.

 

The only consolation is that we likely didn't get beat bad enough to fall out of the BCS.

 

Wait, the reason Quinn threw those interceptions was purely because of him laying an egg and not because of the UM defense ?(and the supposed best defensive line in the nation?)

 

Yes, you can look really good against service acadamies, maybe only throw one or two picks. Congrats.

 

USC and Michigan? More talented than ND. Maybe Weis can recruit very well, we'll soon see.

 

Yeah, that great UM defense that gave up 503 yards to OSU. What an awesome defense.

 

 

If OSU would have come out with that offense against any team in the country they would easily put up 500+ yards. I have to give Tressel credit, he realized Michigan would score and that his regular offense would not work against Michigans defense. He came out in 5 wide with 3 step drops and took Michigans front 7 out of the game. Tressel probably would use that offense against most teams but I think he realized this was the way to beat Michigan. He also had the talent to pull it off.

 

 

As for the at large BCS teams. I think Michigan, Boise St and Fla/LSU are locks. If Fla loses they are one if Fla wins than LSU is one. The fourth will be ND unless Rutgers beats WV, then I dont know. Louisville would be more deserving but ND is ND as Lou Holtz has said.

 

Doesnt ND get an automatice berth if they are ranked so high in the BCS poll?

[CubColtPacer]

USC is a good football team.

 

I love the crap out of Weis, but this team laid up two stinkbombs in the two biggest games of the year. And I have no idea why.

 

Quinn's stats belie that he was missing his most dependable target (Carlson) and Rhema/Freeman played like crap, combining for about 10 drops. His receivers and Oline screwed him on a couple of occasions. He played very well considering the circumstances, especially since he played hurt. Hope he enjoys the trip to NY although he obviously won't win the Heisman.

 

I echo DCF. Thanks for the awful secondary, Ty. If ever there was proof that Weis will need a couple more years of recruits to make this team a real contender, this game was it. Just not enough talent yet.

 

Let's have Arkansas please win the SEC title game. That way the Rose Bowl can take Florida to avoid the ridiculousness of an ND/UM rematch.

 

All that said, this post is absurd with no further comment:

 

I don't want to hear crap from any ND fan. This is your team, you deserve this for how highly hyped up they were from day one.

 

Legacy of Brady Quinn: No big wins, against anyone. Heisman? Are you joking?

 

The Great, fat, Charlie Weis: Not a single big win, best game of his career is a loss to USC in 2005. Wow.

 

I can't believe what Bob Davie was blubbering out while he watched his beloved Irish go down: "Look, the only losses this team has had in the past year has been to three top 5 teams!"

 

Yeah, and you got blown out in every single one of them.

 

There are only 2 legitimate teams on the schedule, and ND lost by 20+ to each of them. Congrats.

 

The Irish are back, indeed!

 

Laid eggs? They were outclassed. Their only other games were against second tier programs, so of course they looked better.

 

Come on, man. Laid eggs?

Yes, laid eggs. Quinn has thrown 5 INTs all year and 3 of them came against UM. That's a laid egg. Hell he didn't even have any against USC whose D is pretty damn good too. Rhema hasn't dropped passes all year until this game. Freeman looked like crap. USC outplayed ND but that doesn't mean ND played their best game. I give all sorts of credit to UM and USC for playing the way they did in those games, but they weren't responsible for Rhema's not holding onto the football today or for ND's offensive line crapping out in the UM game.

 

The only consolation is that we likely didn't get beat bad enough to fall out of the BCS.

 

Wait, the reason Quinn threw those interceptions was purely because of him laying an egg and not because of the UM defense ?(and the supposed best defensive line in the nation?)

 

Yes, you can look really good against service acadamies, maybe only throw one or two picks. Congrats.

 

USC and Michigan? More talented than ND. Maybe Weis can recruit very well, we'll soon see.

 

Yeah, that great UM defense that gave up 503 yards to OSU. What an awesome defense.

 

 

If OSU would have come out with that offense against any team in the country they would easily put up 500+ yards. I have to give Tressel credit, he realized Michigan would score and that his regular offense would not work against Michigans defense. He came out in 5 wide with 3 step drops and took Michigans front 7 out of the game. Tressel probably would use that offense against most teams but I think he realized this was the way to beat Michigan. He also had the talent to pull it off.

 

 

As for the at large BCS teams. I think Michigan, Boise St and Fla/LSU are locks. If Fla loses they are one if Fla wins than LSU is one. The fourth will be ND unless Rutgers beats WV, then I dont know. Louisville would be more deserving but ND is ND as Lou Holtz has said.

 

Doesnt ND get an automatice berth if they are ranked so high in the BCS poll?

 

ND gets an automatic bid if they are 8th or higher-they might end up there, but it will be interesting to see where the polls put them. They are not going to fall very far at all in most of the computer rankings-they were one of the only 1 loss teams left, and they lost to the team who will likely be #1 overall in most of the computers next week. If the polls put them 10th or higher, they have a chance to get back to 8th in the BCS and get the automatic bid. I think they have a chance to be 10th or higher as well-more than 5 spots would be a large jump considering several teams behind them lost. I can see Notre Dame dropping to 9th or 10th. LSU, Wisconsin, and Lousiville will almost certainly pass them. Boise State might pass them. I can't see them falling much further than that though.

Arkansas will likely stay one spot ahead of them in the poll they were ahead of them last week, but if they don't win the SEC title game they will of course vacate that spot.

 

I consider it probable that ND will get the automatic bid-they will probably be 8th, 9th, or 10th in the BCS standings this week, and would have a great chance to secure 8th after the conference title games next week.

[Andy]

ND was helped tremendously by the fact that the two teams directly behind them also lost. If that hadn't happened they'd be in trouble.

 

As it looks now they'll play the SEC champ in the Sugar Bowl, and I expect either to be a good game (I'd rather play Florida because McFadden scares the ever living crap out of me). Much less likely but still a possibility is a Rose Bowl rematch with Michigan. If everything falls against them they could end up in the Gator Bowl against whoever loses the ACC title game, which better be a win.

 

I think WV's going to clobber Rutgers next week so this will all be pretty much moot then.

[Andy]

Not mentioned before, but Ball State clobbered Kent State 30-6 to finish up 5-7 (5-3). First 5-win MAC season since 2002. Not where we were supposed to finish, but a good stepping stone, especially with everyone important except for one Olineman and 3 defensive players coming back.

[cubweiser03]

USC is a good football team.

 

I love the crap out of Weis, but this team laid up two stinkbombs in the two biggest games of the year. And I have no idea why.

 

Quinn's stats belie that he was missing his most dependable target (Carlson) and Rhema/Freeman played like crap, combining for about 10 drops. His receivers and Oline screwed him on a couple of occasions. He played very well considering the circumstances, especially since he played hurt. Hope he enjoys the trip to NY although he obviously won't win the Heisman.

 

I echo DCF. Thanks for the awful secondary, Ty. If ever there was proof that Weis will need a couple more years of recruits to make this team a real contender, this game was it. Just not enough talent yet.

 

Let's have Arkansas please win the SEC title game. That way the Rose Bowl can take Florida to avoid the ridiculousness of an ND/UM rematch.

 

All that said, this post is absurd with no further comment:

 

I don't want to hear crap from any ND fan. This is your team, you deserve this for how highly hyped up they were from day one.

 

Legacy of Brady Quinn: No big wins, against anyone. Heisman? Are you joking?

 

The Great, fat, Charlie Weis: Not a single big win, best game of his career is a loss to USC in 2005. Wow.

 

I can't believe what Bob Davie was blubbering out while he watched his beloved Irish go down: "Look, the only losses this team has had in the past year has been to three top 5 teams!"

 

Yeah, and you got blown out in every single one of them.

 

There are only 2 legitimate teams on the schedule, and ND lost by 20+ to each of them. Congrats.

 

The Irish are back, indeed!

 

Laid eggs? They were outclassed. Their only other games were against second tier programs, so of course they looked better.

 

Come on, man. Laid eggs?

Yes, laid eggs. Quinn has thrown 5 INTs all year and 3 of them came against UM. That's a laid egg. Hell he didn't even have any against USC whose D is pretty damn good too. Rhema hasn't dropped passes all year until this game. Freeman looked like crap. USC outplayed ND but that doesn't mean ND played their best game. I give all sorts of credit to UM and USC for playing the way they did in those games, but they weren't responsible for Rhema's not holding onto the football today or for ND's offensive line crapping out in the UM game.

 

The only consolation is that we likely didn't get beat bad enough to fall out of the BCS.

 

Wait, the reason Quinn threw those interceptions was purely because of him laying an egg and not because of the UM defense ?(and the supposed best defensive line in the nation?)

 

Yes, you can look really good against service acadamies, maybe only throw one or two picks. Congrats.

 

USC and Michigan? More talented than ND. Maybe Weis can recruit very well, we'll soon see.

 

Yeah, that great UM defense that gave up 503 yards to OSU. What an awesome defense.

 

If OSU would have come out with that offense against any team in the country they would easily put up 500+ yards. I have to give Tressel credit, he realized Michigan would score and that his regular offense would not work against Michigans defense. He came out in 5 wide with 3 step drops and took Michigans front 7 out of the game. Tressel probably would use that offense against most teams but I think he realized this was the way to beat Michigan. He also had the talent to pull it off.

 

Yeah, cmon man i think thats a bit unfair. OSU went into that game with a nations best 7 points a game. Michigan put up 39. Does that mean OSU's defense isnt awesome either? I'll match up both of these defenses to any in the country. USC/Texas had very good defenses that got lit up last year too. The offenses of UM and OSU are pretty damn good. If OSU offense sucked your statement could hold more water.

 

Oh yeah. ND had 273 yards against UM. ND had 404 against USC.

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I just don't see a mature kid leading the post Army victory 'beat SC' hoopla. nor do I see a mature kid being smirky during news conference or smacking gum getting off the bus at the biggest game of his life with an aloof yet cocky look on his face. Quinn did all of these things

 

I have not seen alot of him before, but what I have seen in the past week does not impress me in the least.

 

He's a college kid for christ sakes. These things happen. It's called school spirit. Heard of it?

 

yep. sure have, and most quarterbacks that are ready to be number one draft choices don't wear it on their shirtsleeve. rather they exude a quiet confidence and focus. I didn't see that out of Quinn in the last week.

 

look, I already backed off of my statements because of someone's assessment that those things I saw were out of character. you guys want to knock me around for my original statement when I leave the board, be my guest, but you look pretty petty doing so.