Cubs sign DeRosa for 3 yrs/$13M

[sherwood921]

I'd rather have just gone with Cedeno/Theriot and maybe add a couple mil to an offer for someone of more impact. I'll be disappointed if this results in us losing out on Drew, Soriano, Lee, or a pitcher by a couple million.

[Derwood]

This smells a lot like the Blauser deal.

 

Hey! We made the playoffs with Blauser!!! =P~

 

awesome, let's go get Jose Hernandez and Gary Gaetti then :D

[mg420]

that's an awfully lot of money. I wish it was Durham, but let's hope DeRosa is at least his numbers from last year.

 

If this situation ends up with Izzy gone and TheRiot at short then I think it's a good move. If the middle infield is Izzy and DeRosa then I pissed, that would require a HUGE boost in production from the OF and I don't see that coming thus far.

 

That would be awsome right there..both good with OBP...Get rid of Izzy..

 

maybe it's a prelude to sending izzy to cleveland with prospects for westbrook.

[ToupeeOnFire]

Well, he's versatile at least. Can't ever have enough versatility.

 

It's something they've been missing since Macias.

Edited November 14, 2006 by ToupeeOnFire

[CubColtPacer]

Probably a bit over-paid, but not dramatically so. If he's only ok, we can turn him into an extemely expensive utility player (where he'll definitely be too expensive, but other then that he is very valuable in that respect). If he can continue to play pretty well like last year, then he is worth it.

 

It's certainly not an impact signing, but if the impact comes at other positions, then this will turn into a fine signing.

 

Spending millions for such a lack of production can very well impact other positions, negatively.

 

I agree, but I think Derosa is good enough to not be a drag on the offense either-he's just going to be an average to a little below average second baseman. If he repeats last year, he'll be a little above average, but I doubt he does that.

[Banedon]

This smells a lot like the Blauser deal.

 

Hey! We made the playoffs with Blauser!!! =P~

 

awesome, let's go get Jose Hernandez and Gary Gaetti then :D

 

One-dog for CF!!!

[mg420]

I'd rather have just gone with Cedeno/Theriot and maybe add a couple mil to an offer for someone of more impact. I'll be disappointed if this results in us losing out on Drew, Soriano, Lee, or a pitcher by a couple million.

 

i very much doubt cedeno will start the year in the majors in 2007.

[sherwood921]

Well, he's versatile at least. Can't ever have enough versatility.

 

We were already versatile with Cedeno, Izzy, and Theriot.

[BeerHere]

I wonder if TheRiot can play CF?????

 

Gut feeling tells me that Murton and Moore are trade bait this winter. Hendry is going after Soriano or Drew or Lee and if Jones in RF Murton isn't playing CF.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I don't understand the gripe. 4 million a year is the market for a veteran 2nd baseman with average numbers.

 

He's a below average hitter and has never been an everyday 2B. And he'll be 32, 33, and 34 during his 3 year deal.

 

DeRosa had th 5th best OPS among all qualified 2B in baseball last year. Even with regress from 2006, he's not below average.

 

DeRosa's career .735 OPS would tie him for 14th of 22 second basemen. His .331 career OBP would rank worse than that.

[CubinNY]

Mark DeRosa would be a good guy to sign for a bench role at @ 1 mill/year or less. But at 4 million for three years, and as a started he is not a significant upgrade.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Well, he's versatile at least. Can't ever have enough versatility.

 

This is why I'm holding out hope that Hendry will still make a push at Durham and keep DeRosa as our super-utility guy.

[Bull]

Well, he's versatile at least. Can't ever have enough versatility.

 

If he replaces versatile macias, then I like it. I fear that amount of money implies starter.

[HoopsCubs]

Even though he was with Texas his home/away splits are basically the same with the SLG a bit higher on the road. He is on the wrong side of 30 though. We'll see, it depends on how much the deal is for.

 

Can he play RF against a tough lefty to spell Jaqcue and to give Theriot some PT at 2B? Can he play SS if Izturis gets hurt? He does seem like the classic move around the diamond guy.

 

I like the signing - but it sounds like Hendry paid too much too soon. If I recall we said that about Howry and Eyre last year. I think Howry was worth it; Eyre disappointed especially in second half.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I don't understand the gripe. 4 million a year is the market for a veteran 2nd baseman with average numbers.

 

Coulda saved the $4 M and added a bit more for a guy like Durham or Loretta.

 

You don't think the difference is going to so to Soriano or pitchers?

 

It might, but I think that in the end, the Cubs won't be able to afford Soriano.

[BeerHere]

I'd rather have just gone with Cedeno/Theriot and maybe add a couple mil to an offer for someone of more impact. I'll be disappointed if this results in us losing out on Drew, Soriano, Lee, or a pitcher by a couple million.

 

i very much doubt cedeno will start the year in the majors in 2007.

 

Seconded

[C.C.]

Ok so what would be the big difference between him at 2nd and Theriot, dont they both have similar numbers all across the board?? average,OBP,his SLG might be alittle higher, not sure, but the RBI and HR's would look pretty similar

 

that was my thoughts too. theroit isn't proven, but derosa doesn't really seem to be either, though if he can do what he did last year offensively it would be great(mind you that was in texas).

 

AVG .296 | HR 13 | RBI 74 | OBP .357 | SLG .456

 

not bad. but walker probably would have done about the same.

 

his number are just about identical home\away spilts.

[sherwood921]

I'd rather have just gone with Cedeno/Theriot and maybe add a couple mil to an offer for someone of more impact. I'll be disappointed if this results in us losing out on Drew, Soriano, Lee, or a pitcher by a couple million.

 

i very much doubt cedeno will start the year in the majors in 2007.

 

I didn't say he would, but he wasn't the only option. If Theriot tanks and Cedeno comes out of the gate hot, why not?

[goonys evil twin]

I don't understand the gripe. 4 million a year is the market for a veteran 2nd baseman with average numbers.

 

He's a below average hitter and has never been an everyday 2B. And he'll be 32, 33, and 34 during his 3 year deal.

 

DeRosa had th 5th best OPS among all qualified 2B in baseball last year. Even with regress from 2006, he's not below average.

 

Not many people would recommend only listing a player's career year when thinking about what he'll do in the future. That's not smart. It's darn right foolish in fact. 98 OPS+ in 2005, 59 in 2004, 84 in 2003. That's a wide range, with some atrociousness and mediocrity.

 

He's also not an everyday guy, never has been.

[Shilzzz]

you know, i don't believe it but, it would be interesting to have derosa as a platoon guy with jones in right. he did bat .342 against leftys last year.

[ToupeeOnFire]

Well, he's versatile at least. Can't ever have enough versatility.

 

We were already versatile with Cedeno, Izzy, and Theriot.

Well, now they can lead the league in versatility. That should be good for 10 extra wins or so. :wink:

[goonys evil twin]

With many more signings like this, we'll hit the $115 million mark pretty soon without seeing much improvement in the team.

[Banedon]

This is why A-ram took a discount. So we could overpay Mark Derosa.

[BeerHere]

that's an awfully lot of money. I wish it was Durham, but let's hope DeRosa is at least his numbers from last year.

 

If this situation ends up with Izzy gone and TheRiot at short then I think it's a good move. If the middle infield is Izzy and DeRosa then I pissed, that would require a HUGE boost in production from the OF and I don't see that coming thus far.

 

That would be awsome right there..both good with OBP...Get rid of Izzy..

 

maybe it's a prelude to sending izzy to cleveland with prospects for westbrook.

 

Someone cue MC Hammer.....

 

THAT'S WHY WE PRAY!!!!

 

[C.C.]

I really don't see the point of this signing?