Cubs re-sign Miller

[Soriano12]

Hey Hendry you freakin moron, how about you use every resource available and focus on Aram, then add trash like Miller afterwards.

 

??

 

Do you think Hendry doesn't have time for both?

 

Figure Miller at the least got between 1-2 million, while this isn't alot,

what is the gap right now in regards to re-signing Aram? 4-5 million?

 

He needs to hold off on these recovery projects and take care of buisness ASAP. Get Aram signed now.

[CubColtPacer]

Hey Hendry you freakin moron, how about you use every resource available and focus on Aram, then add trash like Miller afterwards.

 

??

 

Do you think Hendry doesn't have time for both?

 

Figure Miller at the least got between 1-2 million, while this isn't alot,

what is the gap right now in regards to re-signing Aram? 4-5 million?

 

He needs to hold off on these recovery projects and take care of buisness ASAP. Get Aram signed now.

 

If Aram doesn't get re-signed, right or wrong, it won't be due to available funds, but rather an estimate by the Cubs front office of how much he is worth. Wade Miller's signing will have nothing to do with Ramirez's contract.

[ShawonOmeter12]

i highly doubt the 2-3 mil for miller will have any effect at all on the a-ram signing. this is a good deal for us, the more arms the merrier because we all saw what happened last year. the cubs have a 100+ payroll a couple mil to them is like me buying a candy bar for my kid while waiting in line at the grocery store, not a big deal at all.

[soccer10k]

Not that I agree or disagree, we should should attack the post, not the poster, no?

 

Or did I just not understand completely?

 

Yeah, I know. But I just couldn't help myself. I edited it out though.

[baseball7897]

Hey Hendry you freakin moron, how about you use every resource available and focus on Aram, then add trash like Miller afterwards.

 

??

 

Do you think Hendry doesn't have time for both?

 

Figure Miller at the least got between 1-2 million, while this isn't alot,

what is the gap right now in regards to re-signing Aram? 4-5 million?

 

He needs to hold off on these recovery projects and take care of buisness ASAP. Get Aram signed now.

 

I don't think signing Miller would delay Hendry's chances of signing Ramirez.

[Soriano12]

Hey Hendry you freakin moron, how about you use every resource available and focus on Aram, then add trash like Miller afterwards.

 

??

 

Do you think Hendry doesn't have time for both?

 

Figure Miller at the least got between 1-2 million, while this isn't alot,

what is the gap right now in regards to re-signing Aram? 4-5 million?

 

He needs to hold off on these recovery projects and take care of buisness ASAP. Get Aram signed now.

 

I don't think signing Miller would delay Hendry's chances of signing Ramirez.

 

It's just another symbol of Hendry's moronic Philosophy. He refuses to overpay for quality players, but has no qualms about dishing $$$ for garbage players or rehab projects.

[goonys evil twin]

Hey Hendry you freakin moron, how about you use every resource available and focus on Aram, then add trash like Miller afterwards.

 

??

 

Do you think Hendry doesn't have time for both?

 

Figure Miller at the least got between 1-2 million, while this isn't alot,

what is the gap right now in regards to re-signing Aram? 4-5 million?

 

He needs to hold off on these recovery projects and take care of buisness ASAP. Get Aram signed now.

 

I don't think signing Miller would delay Hendry's chances of signing Ramirez.

 

It's just another symbol of Hendry's moronic Philosophy. He refuses to overpay for quality players, but has no qualms about dishing $$$ for garbage players or rehab projects.

 

There's quite a bit of difference between wasting money on guys like Rusch and Neifi, who are terrible, and risking money on guys like Miller, who can be good.

[Schwarber Fan]

Can someone explain why he wouldn't come back healthy? He looked fine at the end of 06...

[goonys evil twin]

Can someone explain why he wouldn't come back healthy? He looked fine at the end of 06...

 

He could come back healthy, but he might not. Not sure what there is to explain, but the guy has missed time in 3 straight years. Past injury is the biggest predictor for future injury.

[BigbadB]

I like bringing back Miller. I'd try to do the same with Kerry Wood.

[Soriano12]

and risking money on guys like Miller, who can be good

 

 

rehab projects

[goonys evil twin]

and risking money on guys like Miller, who can be good

 

 

rehab projects

 

Yeah, he's a rehab project. And he can be good. There's nothing wrong with taking chances on guys like that. There's still plenty of money for Ramirez and others. Somebody was going to get Miller money to be a back of the rotation guy.

 

And it's not like he's a rehab project who has no chance of pitching next April. Lots of rehab projects are guys who we know won't be able to throw until June or July at the earliest. Miller is a guy who could start the whole year.

[Soriano12]

Fearless Prediction.

 

Miller doesn't even throw 100 innings in 07.

[Sammy Sofa]

And if he doesn't, oh well. If he's being brought back cheap as backup for part of a bigger plan, I have zero problem with this. If they're expecting him to be a lock as a #4 or even #5 starter, that's not smart. Play with the idea that he's playing for #5 with Prior and youngster of the month and this has plenty of upside. If they've planned smart, Miller not hitting 100 innings isn't a problem, and him hitting that or more is almost all cake. Quit acting like this signing is the end of the world or on par with signing guys like Rusch and Neifi. They have even more money now and can afford a cheap rehab project or two as long as they don't eat big money or are banked on to be the focus in their roles. Smart teams have backup plans...hopefully Miller is one.

[USSoccer]

As long as Hendry didn't sign him to an idiotic deal, I have zero problems with this sign.

[CubsWin]

Not a bad move as Miller will be a good candidate for the back-end of the rotation.

 

Now the rotation is Zambrano, Hill, Miller (if healthty), then two of Prior/Guzman/Marshall/Mateo/Marmol.

 

One more is definitely needed. If that one more is Matsuzaka/Schmidt/Zito, we can probably focus the rest of the salary on the offense. If we have to go second tier, it might be best to bring in two more pitchers.

Yep, that's my thinking as well. With the in-house options the Cubs have (Prior, Guzman, Marshall, Mateo, Marmol, Gallagher, Veal) and the semi-effectiveness Miller showed late in the year (0-1, 1.84 ERA, 14.2 IP in his last 3 starts, 13 K/10 BB, 8 hits, 1 HR, 1.22 WHIP) the back end of the rotation should be covered so long as a top of the line starter can be brought in to solidfy the front end.

[Outshined_One]

I don't see Miller as a possible #3 for this team, given the team's current structure and his recent health. He'd make a fine option among the group of Prior/Marshall/Guzman/Mateo/etc, but I think it would be a mistake to see him otherwise.

 

This team still needs an ace and an inning-eating #4. Miller does not qualify for either, imo.

[WrigleyField 22]

I don't see how this fits with Aramis at all. Most likely Aramis is just waiting to play the FA field right now unless we blow him away with an offer. I'm sure Hendry has enough time in his schedule to keep in contact with Aramis and sign Miller to a deal. For all we know Miller was a quick sign and only will cost 2mil dollars, hardly something to worry about.

 

And this like others have said could just be insurance. Hendry may have a plan to get a Ace and innings eater but things could always fall through. If he misses out on the Matzazwhatever bid and Schmidt signs with Seattle like it looks like, the only Ace left is Zito, and there will be a lot of competition for that. At that point he would probably have to explore trading for an ace (or the closest he could get) and what do you know, with Miller on board some of those young guys are a little more expandable. The innings eater type might bail out and he can't get any of those guys, but with Miller plus a ton of young arms it won't kill our season. Again we have flexibility to trade for a guy too.

 

Going into the season Hill might revert back to his old major league self and we will want more options.

 

Zambrano

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Hill

Miller/Prior/Marshall/Guzman/Mateo/Marmol/Ryu is probably the rotation now. Someone like Marmol could be expandable to be tried out at closer, a role some believe he will exceed in.

 

Now if this deal is more than 3mil, I'll start complaining. Until then it looks like good insurance.

[CubsWin]

It's just another symbol of Hendry's moronic Philosophy. He refuses to overpay for quality players, but has no qualms about dishing $$$ for garbage players or rehab projects.

Moronic? That's an awfully strong word. Garbage? I'm not certain Wade Miller would agree with you on that description of him as a pitcher.

 

He was coming off of an injury and got progressively better in his performances as the season drew to close. In his last 3 starts he averaged just under 5 innings per and compiled a WHIP of 1.23 and an ERA of 1.84 while striking out just under a batter per inning and giving up only 1 HR in 14.2 innings. Its still just 3 starts, but those numbers make it hard to call him garbage. Was "injury prone" not hyperbolic enough for you?

[CubsWin]

I don't see Miller as a possible #3 for this team, given the team's current structure and his recent health. He'd make a fine option among the group of Prior/Marshall/Guzman/Mateo/etc, but I think it would be a mistake to see him otherwise.

 

This team still needs an ace and an inning-eating #4. Miller does not qualify for either, imo.

Perhaps, yes. But only if Prior still looks like he is a no go this off season. Has there been any news as to how he is doing lately?

[Hoosiercubbie]

Paul Sullivan was just on Chicago Tribune Live. He said the deal was a low base - high incentive contract. He didn't specify any numbers.

[Soriano12]

Moronic? That's an awfully strong word. Garbage? I'm not certain Wade Miller would agree with you on that description of him as a pitcher.

 

dishing $$$ for garbage players or rehab projects.

 

Hey, Miller was great once upon a time. But he is still a rehab project.

[Sammy Sofa]

Moronic? That's an awfully strong word. Garbage? I'm not certain Wade Miller would agree with you on that description of him as a pitcher.

 

dishing $$$ for garbage players or rehab projects.

 

Hey, Miller was great once upon a time. But he is still a rehab project.

 

So what? If they're cheap and used smart, what's the harm in taking a chance?

[RichHillIsABeast]

Paul Sullivan was just on Chicago Tribune Live. He said the deal was a low base - high incentive contract. He didn't specify any numbers.

 

Excellent.

[Sammy Sofa]

Paul Sullivan was just on Chicago Tribune Live. He said the deal was a low base - high incentive contract. He didn't specify any numbers.

 

Excellent.

 

Agreed. This is pretty much win-win for the Cubs. Very good signing. Now get the big boys!