College Football - Week of 11/11

[TruffleShuffle]

The New York Times has a story about academic support for college athletes, emphasis on tutoring programs: link. They also have a slideshow about a day in the life of UCLA freshman corner Alterraun Verner.

 

Real tutoring programs, or programs like those formerly at UcheaT, where people just did homework and papers for the athletes?

[Andy]

The last time ND wasn't on one of the four major college FB networks was Halloween 1992 against Navy, a game that was only televised in the South Bend area. It will be the first time in 170 games without ABC/NBC/CBS/ESPN.

 

Of course, I'm lucky enough to get CSTV, so I'll get to watch anyway.

[Derwood]

 

I don't think there's any way a 12-1 Arkansas team jumps an 11-1 USC team. Nor should they.

 

Just because USC beat them in Week 1? You're arguing that Arkansas going undefeated in the SEC doesn't deserve to be ranked above a USC team that lost to an unranked Oregon St. ?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I don't think USC will be 11-1 - I can't see USC beating all 3 of Oregon, Cal and Notre Dame (even if all three games are in South Central).

[Andy]

I don't think USC will be 11-1 - I can't see USC beating all 3 of Oregon, Cal and Notre Dame (even if all three games are in South Central).

I think USC will lose to Cal for sure, and if they keep playing like they have been, they'll lose to ND as well.

[soccer10k]

 

I don't think there's any way a 12-1 Arkansas team jumps an 11-1 USC team. Nor should they.

 

Just because USC beat them in Week 1? You're arguing that Arkansas going undefeated in the SEC doesn't deserve to be ranked above a USC team that lost to an unranked Oregon St. ?

 

Every game matters. If two major conference teams both have one loss and Team A beat Team B, then why shouldn't Team A be ranked ahead?

[Derwood]

 

I don't think there's any way a 12-1 Arkansas team jumps an 11-1 USC team. Nor should they.

 

Just because USC beat them in Week 1? You're arguing that Arkansas going undefeated in the SEC doesn't deserve to be ranked above a USC team that lost to an unranked Oregon St. ?

 

Every game matters. If two major conference teams both have one loss and Team A beat Team B, then why shouldn't Team A be ranked ahead?

 

strength of schedule, conference record, when the game was, etc., etc., etc.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

 

I don't think there's any way a 12-1 Arkansas team jumps an 11-1 USC team. Nor should they.

 

Just because USC beat them in Week 1? You're arguing that Arkansas going undefeated in the SEC doesn't deserve to be ranked above a USC team that lost to an unranked Oregon St. ?

 

Every game matters. If two major conference teams both have one loss and Team A beat Team B, then why shouldn't Team A be ranked ahead?

 

strength of schedule, conference record, when the game was, etc., etc., etc.

 

In this situation I don't think that holds up. USC went to Arkansas and smoked them, it's not as if USC barely held on at home. I don't think "when the game was" should have much if any weight.

[soccer10k]

 

I don't think there's any way a 12-1 Arkansas team jumps an 11-1 USC team. Nor should they.

 

Just because USC beat them in Week 1? You're arguing that Arkansas going undefeated in the SEC doesn't deserve to be ranked above a USC team that lost to an unranked Oregon St. ?

 

Every game matters. If two major conference teams both have one loss and Team A beat Team B, then why shouldn't Team A be ranked ahead?

 

strength of schedule, conference record, when the game was, etc., etc., etc.

 

Doesn't matter. Team A beats Team B. Do you remember the 2000 National Championship game between Oklahoma and Florida State? Well Miami handed Florida State their only loss that year but because it was early in the year and Miami lost later in the year, Florida State was incorrectly ranked higher in the polls. Miami should have played Oklahoma that year.

 

USC should be ranked ahead of Arkansas if they both have the same number of losses. I don't really understand how there could be a better factor for which team is ranked higher under the circumstances (both with one loss) than the head to head result.

[CubColtPacer]

 

I don't think there's any way a 12-1 Arkansas team jumps an 11-1 USC team. Nor should they.

 

Just because USC beat them in Week 1? You're arguing that Arkansas going undefeated in the SEC doesn't deserve to be ranked above a USC team that lost to an unranked Oregon St. ?

 

Every game matters. If two major conference teams both have one loss and Team A beat Team B, then why shouldn't Team A be ranked ahead?

 

strength of schedule, conference record, when the game was, etc., etc., etc.

 

Doesn't matter. Team A beats Team B. Do you remember the 2000 National Championship game between Oklahoma and Florida State? Well Miami handed Florida State their only loss that year but because it was early in the year and Miami lost later in the year, Florida State was incorrectly ranked higher in the polls. Miami should have played Oklahoma that year.

 

USC should be ranked ahead of Arkansas if they both have the same number of losses. I don't really understand how there could be a better factor for which team is ranked higher under the circumstances (both with one loss) than the head to head result.

 

In your 2000 thought process, you missed one thing. Florida State did lose to 11-1 Miami, but Miami lost to 11-1 Washington. Washington under that logic should have played for the national title, not Miami.

[TruffleShuffle]

 

I don't think there's any way a 12-1 Arkansas team jumps an 11-1 USC team. Nor should they.

 

Just because USC beat them in Week 1? You're arguing that Arkansas going undefeated in the SEC doesn't deserve to be ranked above a USC team that lost to an unranked Oregon St. ?

 

Every game matters. If two major conference teams both have one loss and Team A beat Team B, then why shouldn't Team A be ranked ahead?

 

strength of schedule, conference record, when the game was, etc., etc., etc.

 

Doesn't matter. Team A beats Team B. Do you remember the 2000 National Championship game between Oklahoma and Florida State? Well Miami handed Florida State their only loss that year but because it was early in the year and Miami lost later in the year, Florida State was incorrectly ranked higher in the polls. Miami should have played Oklahoma that year.

 

USC should be ranked ahead of Arkansas if they both have the same number of losses. I don't really understand how there could be a better factor for which team is ranked higher under the circumstances (both with one loss) than the head to head result.

 

In your 2000 thought process, you missed one thing. Florida State did lose to 11-1 Miami, but Miami lost to 11-1 Washington. Washington under that logic should have played for the national title, not Miami.

 

But then they lost to Oregon... we could go on and on with this. There really is no way to solve it without guessing which was the best team at the end of the year.

[soccer10k]

 

I don't think there's any way a 12-1 Arkansas team jumps an 11-1 USC team. Nor should they.

 

Just because USC beat them in Week 1? You're arguing that Arkansas going undefeated in the SEC doesn't deserve to be ranked above a USC team that lost to an unranked Oregon St. ?

 

Every game matters. If two major conference teams both have one loss and Team A beat Team B, then why shouldn't Team A be ranked ahead?

 

strength of schedule, conference record, when the game was, etc., etc., etc.

 

Doesn't matter. Team A beats Team B. Do you remember the 2000 National Championship game between Oklahoma and Florida State? Well Miami handed Florida State their only loss that year but because it was early in the year and Miami lost later in the year, Florida State was incorrectly ranked higher in the polls. Miami should have played Oklahoma that year.

 

USC should be ranked ahead of Arkansas if they both have the same number of losses. I don't really understand how there could be a better factor for which team is ranked higher under the circumstances (both with one loss) than the head to head result.

 

In your 2000 thought process, you missed one thing. Florida State did lose to 11-1 Miami, but Miami lost to 11-1 Washington. Washington under that logic should have played for the national title, not Miami.

 

But then they lost to Oregon... we could go on and on with this. There really is no way to solve it without guessing which was the best team at the end of the year.

 

Ok, sorry. Bad example. But in 2006, USC beat Arkansas. USC lost to Oregon State, a team which more than one loss, so Oregon State is out of the equation. If USC and Arkansas both finish with one loss, you have to rank USC ahead of Arkansas because they defeated them. There is no string of teams like in 2000. It's plain and simple.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

I don't think there's any way a 12-1 Arkansas team jumps an 11-1 USC team. Nor should they.

 

Just because USC beat them in Week 1? You're arguing that Arkansas going undefeated in the SEC doesn't deserve to be ranked above a USC team that lost to an unranked Oregon St. ?

 

You're arguing that Arkansas who lost to USC by 36 points is better than USC. People complain about the BCS not allowing things to be solved on the field, and here in an instance where it was solved on the field you want to ignore it due to an assumption that USC couldn't survive the SEC.

 

In this hypothetical, USC would have wins over 5 top 25 teams,(A guess as to where Arkansas, Nebraska, Oregon, Notre Dame, and Cal will finish.) while Arkansas would have wins over 4 top 25 teams(Auburn, Tennesee, LSU, Florida)

 

This SEC love is getting absurd.

[NewUserName]

If everything falls in place Arkansas shouldnt pass USC, ND shouldnt pass Michigan or Texas shouldnt pass OSU.

 

Wouldnt it be great if JoePa came out in a Scooter or Rascal or whatever those things are called. I can almost see him chasing Mike McQuery around in one.

[Flames24Rulz]

NIU absolutely sucks. Tonight's game against Toledo was an absolute embarassment. I feel sorry for people who actually watched that game. The MAC is really awful this year. That was probably the worst game I think I've seen all year long.

 

Horvath still sucks and he actually was benched. Nicholson really wasn't much better and Horvath came in on NIU's last two drives. He drove NIU to the Toledo 2. The Huskies had 4 chances to punch the ball in the endzone to win the game and they couldn't do it. Out of those 4 plays at the Toledo 2, NIU ran ONE running play. When you have Garrett Wolfe in the backfield, I don't care what you do as long as you RUN the ball all 4 times. If you're going to lose, lose with your best player not getting the score.

 

Simply awful loss tonight. Takes NIU out of any bowl picture now.

[CubColtPacer]

NIU absolutely sucks. Tonight's game against Toledo was an absolute embarassment. I feel sorry for people who actually watched that game. The MAC is really awful this year. That was probably the worst game I think I've seen all year long.

 

Horvath still sucks and he actually was benched. Nicholson really wasn't much better and Horvath came in on NIU's last two drives. He drove NIU to the Toledo 2. The Huskies had 4 chances to punch the ball in the endzone to win the game and they couldn't do it. Out of those 4 plays at the Toledo 2, NIU ran ONE running play. When you have Garrett Wolfe in the backfield, I don't care what you do as long as you RUN the ball all 4 times. If you're going to lose, lose with your best player not getting the score.

 

Simply awful loss tonight. Takes NIU out of any bowl picture now.

 

I watched the last drive of that game. It was simply one of the most surreal things that I have ever seen. From the heavy fog that was making it hard to see to the terrible camera angles to the announcers yelling "I think a bat almost came in here", it certainly didn't feel like one team was trying to come back in a college football game. I couldn't believe either that they refused to run Wolfe at the 2, although their first down play should have been caught for the TD.

[NewUserName]

NDstps where those pictures taken from your seat in the Big House? If so those are some nice seats.

[Andy]

NDstps where those pictures taken from your seat in the Big House? If so those are some nice seats.

That was not from my seats. Here's a picture from where I was.

 

http://photos-853.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v49/135/60/20701877/n20701877_31937853_2061.jpg

 

Not great, but for 30 bucks and considering that most of the big plays (INT for TD, the score to put us within 8, and three of Michigan's TDs as well) were in that endzone, I'd say I got my money's worth. :D

[fiver]

This isn't NFL, but it's worth a shot...

 

UMFan,

 

Who is going to win the Louisville-Rutgers game tonight?

[fiver]

This isn't NFL, but it's worth a shot...

 

UMFan,

 

Who is going to win the Louisville-Rutgers game tonight?

 

 

wait..nevermind. The answer is on the first page of this thread.

[TruffleShuffle]

This isn't NFL, but it's worth a shot...

 

UMFan,

 

Who is going to win the Louisville-Rutgers game tonight?

 

 

wait..nevermind. The answer is on the first page of this thread.

 

poor rutgers :cry:

[Derwood]

so, which team is more susceptible to "looking ahead" this week, O$U or UM?

[fiver]

This isn't NFL, but it's worth a shot...

 

UMFan,

 

Who is going to win the Louisville-Rutgers game tonight?

 

 

wait..nevermind. The answer is on the first page of this thread.

 

poor rutgers :cry:

 

 

:santa:

[Andy]

so, which team is more susceptible to "looking ahead" this week, O$U or UM?

I seriously doubt either team will look ahead, but I think NW will give OSU a better game than IU will give Michigan.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

so, which team is more susceptible to "looking ahead" this week, O$U or UM?

 

After last weekend, neither team.