Milwaukee Has Inquired About the Availability of Greg Maddux

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Gallardo plz.

 

=P~

[RynoRules]

I thought the Brewers were loaded wiith good young talent? I think it's time to take it off their hands.

 

Do you mean that we should negotiate frm a strong position? Gosh darn-it that's a good idea!

[CuseCubFan69]

I thought the Brewers were loaded wiith good young talent? I think it's time to take it off their hands.

 

Do you mean that we should negotiate frm a strong position? Gosh darn-it that's a good idea!

 

Sure would be nice for a change wouldn't it? Let Greg go pitch for his brother and get a chance for the brass ring. Cub fans can drive to Mil-town and seehim pitch if they want to see him bad enough. I've always enjoyed watching him pitch but if a good move can be made where both parties are happy...I'm all for it.

[Wheelimus]

And since we play them 5 times after the break, there's always the chance to see him mow down the Cubs on WGN :x

[thedaymen]

I thought the Brewers were loaded wiith good young talent? I think it's time to take it off their hands.

 

Do you mean that we should negotiate frm a strong position? Gosh darn-it that's a good idea!

 

No way...if Jim is thinking about trading Maddux, we'd first be able to figure it out when Hendry starts slamming him in the newspapers.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Because of the division rival, unofficial rule, the Brewers will have to overpay just a little bit to get Maddux. Which is possible, considering the D'Backs and Dodgers are atleast two teams (both of which are competing against the Brewers for the Wild Card), I suspect, the Cubs could get two solid prospect, who can help in 07, instead of one great prospect who might help in 2008.

[Brewhaha]

I would think a swap of Maddux and Nelson Cruz is a good deal. Don't think the Brewers would give up Corey Hart. The talk about Gallardo is insane. The Brewers would only trade him for an established all-star and then some. He hasn't given up a run in AA yet.

 

Brewer fans talk up Cruz a bit, but I'm leary of 26 year old guys who have had 5 big league at bats. His AAA numbers are good this year, but the guy is in his 6th minor league season. Can he play CF, or is he strictly a corner outfielder? If he can play CF he is a little more intresting.

As far as I can see he is pretty much a RF, he has an amazing arm.

[UBlink]

Because of the division rival, unofficial rule, the Brewers will have to overpay just a little bit to get Maddux. Which is possible, considering the D'Backs and Dodgers are atleast two teams (both of which are competing against the Brewers for the Wild Card), I suspect, the Cubs could get two solid prospect, who can help in 07, instead of one great prospect who might help in 2008.

 

What if the Brewers have the same unwritten rule and the Cubs have to overpay for whoever we get from Milwaukee?

[CP_414]

Because of the division rival, unofficial rule, the Brewers will have to overpay just a little bit to get Maddux. Which is possible, considering the D'Backs and Dodgers are atleast two teams (both of which are competing against the Brewers for the Wild Card), I suspect, the Cubs could get two solid prospect, who can help in 07, instead of one great prospect who might help in 2008.

 

What if the Brewers have the same unwritten rule and the Cubs have to overpay for whoever we get from Milwaukee?

 

Then you trade Maddux to Arizona, LA, or San Diego.

 

 

Phil Rodgers was on the radio in Milwaukee today and he said he thinks there is a good chance of this going down. He thinks JJ Hardy has lost his SS job to Bill Hall, and the Cubs should target Hardy in a trade with Milwaukee (moving Cedeno to 2B). He also says Greg and Mike Maddux talk 2-3 times a day and do advanced scouting for each other before every series, so don't underestimate the importance of Mike being in Milwaukee.

[DesMoinesCub]

He also says Greg and Mike Maddux talk 2-3 times a day and do advanced scouting for each other before every series, so don't underestimate the importance of Mike being in Milwaukee.

 

Again, let me say that I want Maddux to be the pitching coach when his playing days are over. I would love to see Maddux stick around just to be a player/coach the rest of this year when Baker/Sarge/Clines/Rothchild (crosses fingers) all get to collect unemployment checks.

[MikeyLikesCubbies]

Who has ESPN insider? Maddux is on the front page of Rumor Central, and its saying that another NL Central team has inquired about him. Is the Milwakee inquiry their big inside scoop, :roll: or did another NL Central team inquire?

[abuck1220]

i don't understand why everyone's arguing over who they want in return for maddux...they could have him for all i care. the only thing i'm concerned about is getting guzman/hill into the rotation.

[Joe_Cub]

i don't understand why everyone's arguing over who they want in return for maddux...they could have him for all i care. the only thing i'm concerned about is getting guzman/hill into the rotation.

 

No kidding, Mrs. Hill.

 

Guzman I can understand. Congrats on being first in line for the crap-ladeling Rich Hill bandwagon. He should be pitching before retched wreckage like Rusch. AAA All-Star needs to get someone out at the major league level and maybe even earn a mlb win before he turns 35. If another team really was interested in him before Hendry is an IDIOT FOR NOT DEALING HIM

[Sammy Sofa]

i don't understand why everyone's arguing over who they want in return for maddux...they could have him for all i care. the only thing i'm concerned about is getting guzman/hill into the rotation.

 

No kidding, Mrs. Hill.

 

Guzman I can understand. Congrats on being first in line for the crap-ladeling Rich Hill bandwagon. He should be pitching before retched wreckage like Rusch. AAA All-Star needs to get someone out at the major league level and maybe even earn a mlb win before he turns 35. If another team really was interested in him before Hendry is an IDIOT FOR NOT DEALING HIM

 

QFFT

 

I'll take a bloated, 60-year-old Maddux before I have to endure another Rich Hill start.

 

That said, I still think he has some use. Get that man to the bullpen and show him off and ship him off!

[Brewhaha]

Because of the division rival, unofficial rule, the Brewers will have to overpay just a little bit to get Maddux. Which is possible, considering the D'Backs and Dodgers are atleast two teams (both of which are competing against the Brewers for the Wild Card), I suspect, the Cubs could get two solid prospect, who can help in 07, instead of one great prospect who might help in 2008.

 

What if the Brewers have the same unwritten rule and the Cubs have to overpay for whoever we get from Milwaukee?

 

Then you trade Maddux to Arizona, LA, or San Diego.

 

 

Phil Rodgers was on the radio in Milwaukee today and he said he thinks there is a good chance of this going down. He thinks JJ Hardy has lost his SS job to Bill Hall, and the Cubs should target Hardy in a trade with Milwaukee (moving Cedeno to 2B). He also says Greg and Mike Maddux talk 2-3 times a day and do advanced scouting for each other before every series, so don't underestimate the importance of Mike being in Milwaukee.

No chance JJ Hardy for Greg Maddux happens. That would be a fleecing.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

It would be better for Hill to start over Maddux regardless of if Hill gets shelled each time out. Maddux is not part of this club's future. Hill may or may not be. What is very evident is that Hill has nothing left to prove at AAA and needs starts in the major leagues to either learn to adjust or not. If the Cubs leave Hill in AAA this year, they know nothing more about him than they did at this stage last year.

 

Maddux is a FA at the end of the season. Teams that are 20 games under 500 should ship every person who fits that description out for whatever they can get and fill the spots with whomever is most ready. Some will succeed, many will fail. Either way, these are the players who may or may not be a part of the future. Maddux will not be.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Because of the division rival, unofficial rule, the Brewers will have to overpay just a little bit to get Maddux. Which is possible, considering the D'Backs and Dodgers are atleast two teams (both of which are competing against the Brewers for the Wild Card), I suspect, the Cubs could get two solid prospect, who can help in 07, instead of one great prospect who might help in 2008.

 

What if the Brewers have the same unwritten rule and the Cubs have to overpay for whoever we get from Milwaukee?

 

Then you trade Maddux to Arizona, LA, or San Diego.

 

 

Phil Rodgers was on the radio in Milwaukee today and he said he thinks there is a good chance of this going down. He thinks JJ Hardy has lost his SS job to Bill Hall, and the Cubs should target Hardy in a trade with Milwaukee (moving Cedeno to 2B). He also says Greg and Mike Maddux talk 2-3 times a day and do advanced scouting for each other before every series, so don't underestimate the importance of Mike being in Milwaukee.

 

I am NOT impressed with Hardy, whatsoever. He is anothe rversion of Cedeno, IMO. Good/great glove with a questionable bat. Heck, even right now..Cedeno has a better bat then Hardy. Maddux for Hardy would be foolish.

[soccer10k]

It would be better for Hill to start over Maddux regardless of if Hill gets shelled each time out. Maddux is not part of this club's future. Hill may or may not be. What is very evident is that Hill has nothing left to prove at AAA and needs starts in the major leagues to either learn to adjust or not. If the Cubs leave Hill in AAA this year, they know nothing more about him than they did at this stage last year.

 

Maddux is a FA at the end of the season. Teams that are 20 games under 500 should ship every person who fits that description out for whatever they can get and fill the spots with whomever is most ready. Some will succeed, many will fail. Either way, these are the players who may or may not be a part of the future. Maddux will not be.

 

You don't know what you've got unless you play them at the major league level. There is no better time to do this than during a lost season.

[Laura]

I've been a Maddux fan ever since I've been a Cubs fan.

 

It's getting time for him to consider life beyond starting pitching. I'd get his ok before trading him -- but it seems obvious to me at this point that he's already given the trade parameters. I would also, legal or not, guarantee him a retainer fee, million minimum, and a 40-man spot if he needed it for whatever reason. If the cobs can commit millions to Rusch, they can commit to Maddux, who they continue to market every chance they get despite the pathetic performance of the team.

 

Most observers seem to think that he wouldn't deign to be a pitching coach due to the insulting decrease in pay. There's something to be said for being able to vacation -- or get more obsessed with golf -- for 5 years, get elected to the HOF, and then figure out what you want to do. I actually think Maddux might be interested in an arrangement that kept him involved daily with a team. I could be totally be wrong, I don't know him. And he may want to take those 5 years off once he decides to retire.

 

He's smart enough to coach/manage. Does he want to coach/manage? He's been a shadow coach for a long time now. Can he deal with all the personalities that you have to deal with if you take on the job full-time?

 

I leave that decision up to him, but if he says yes, I give him the corporate keys.

 

In my dreams the manager-pitching-coach vacancies are filled with the Maddux brothers; I let them sort out the details.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Bill Hall.Corey Hart, keep dreaming. This is 2006 not 1996. Maddux is basically a number 4 at this point of his career. Why would they give up their top prospects for a #4 ? Bill Hall is .274 17 HR 41 RBI and 26 years old.

 

Bill Hall is also a free agent after the season. Why we would want him considering that is beyond me though.

 

Those were my thoughts as well. We can just sign Hall as a FA in the offseason. I'd ask for Hart or Gallardo.

 

HaHa........brewerfan.net is laughing!

 

Just kidding........here is a post from there in regards to this:

 

"Yes, that board was a little better but not much.

 

Lets see:

 

Hall for Maddux - uh....NO

Gallardo for Maddux- uh...NO

Braun for Maddux-uh.....NO

Hart for Maddux-uh......NO

 

The most interesting thing I learned is that Bill Hall is a free agent next season (LOL) and that the Cubs should wait to the offseason to sign him. Must be some Wrigley liquified bleacher bums writing this stuff......

 

Villaneuva- maybe???"

[USSoccer]

It would be better for Hill to start over Maddux regardless of if Hill gets shelled each time out. Maddux is not part of this club's future. Hill may or may not be. What is very evident is that Hill has nothing left to prove at AAA and needs starts in the major leagues to either learn to adjust or not. If the Cubs leave Hill in AAA this year, they know nothing more about him than they did at this stage last year.

 

Maddux is a FA at the end of the season. Teams that are 20 games under 500 should ship every person who fits that description out for whatever they can get and fill the spots with whomever is most ready. Some will succeed, many will fail. Either way, these are the players who may or may not be a part of the future. Maddux will not be.

 

You don't know what you've got unless you play them at the major league level. There is no better time to do this than during a lost season.

 

Except that you have a manager trying to save his job, or at least his baseball repuatation, which makes it unlikely for him to play anyone outside his comfort zone too much.

 

That's why it's a lost season. Being 25 games under and 15 out sucks, but at least if the Cubs were smart they'd make the most of their loyal fanbase and their tourist attraction ballpark and play the entire 2nd half with young players replacing the useless. Instead, we'll muddle along like we always do, never giving the kids quite enough AB's or IP to develop; just giving them enough to struggle. And in 2 years, when our system is back to 1996 type levels, we'll all wonder what happened.

 

Until Baker and his coaches are fired, there is no point in trading for prospects.

[Magnetic Curses]

i haven't read through the whole thread, but i'd take brady clark straight up.

[Backtobanks]

It looks like Maddux won't be going to the Brewers.

 

Contrary to a report out of Chicago, Cubs pitcher Greg Maddux does have a no-trade clause in his contract. That was confirmed by his agent, Scott Boras, who attended the All-Star Game. Boras gave no indication that Maddux would refuse a trade to the Milwaukee Brewers, who have expressed interest in acquiring him for the second half. Maddux is thought to be receptive to going to Milwaukee, where his brother, Mike, is the pitching coach and longtime friend Ned Yost is the manager. Maddux, who has a home in Dana Point, Calif., reportedly would OK a deal to the Los Angeles Dodgers as well.

 

Posted July 12, by Ben Maller

[Ding Dong Johnson]

It looks like Maddux won't be going to the Brewers.

 

Contrary to a report out of Chicago, Cubs pitcher Greg Maddux does have a no-trade clause in his contract. That was confirmed by his agent, Scott Boras, who attended the All-Star Game. Boras gave no indication that Maddux would refuse a trade to the Milwaukee Brewers, who have expressed interest in acquiring him for the second half. Maddux is thought to be receptive to going to Milwaukee, where his brother, Mike, is the pitching coach and longtime friend Ned Yost is the manager. Maddux, who has a home in Dana Point, Calif., reportedly would OK a deal to the Los Angeles Dodgers as well.

 

Posted July 12, by Ben Maller

 

How does what you post say he "won't be going"?

[abuck1220]

if z and prior go on the DL and maddux gets traded, the cubs are certainly going to have an interesting rotation for the rest of '06...probably rusch and four rookies.