Stark: Pinella will turn down the Cubs

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

FWIW, this is according to Jayson Stark. If the Cubs want him for the remainder of this season then Piniella would not accept the job. Stark does not believe that Piniella would even jump into the middle of this mess.

 

Plus, Stark believes Piniella is waiting for the Yankee job. If the Yankees do not make the playoffs, he is certain that Torre will be fired even though they have been hampered by injuries.

 

He said this yesterday on ESPN radio(Mike and Mike In the Morning).

 

 

Personally, I would be glad if he turned it down.

[CuseCubFan69]

So he's going to play hard ball, eh? Up the offer to 5 years at 6M per Jimmy.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I don't want Piniella and hopefully Hendry won't jones for him like he did Baker.

 

Fredi Gonzalez would be a better choice and he would come at a much reduced price.

 

If Jimmy Boy is going to open the wallet to attract a premeier manager, then he should call Davey Johnson.

[Neuby]

I don't want Piniella and hopefully Hendry won't jones for him like he did Baker.

 

Fredi Gonzalez would be a better choice and he would come at a much reduced price.

 

If Jimmy Boy is going to open the wallet to attract a premeier manager, then he should call Davey Johnson.

 

With all the turnover in baseball if Davey Johnson was a premeier manger I'm pretty sure we hear his name more often I think there's some reasonss he's not in baseball right now.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

I don't want Piniella and hopefully Hendry won't jones for him like he did Baker.

 

Fredi Gonzalez would be a better choice and he would come at a much reduced price.

 

If Jimmy Boy is going to open the wallet to attract a premeier manager, then he should call Davey Johnson.

 

With all the turnover in baseball if Davey Johnson was a premeier manger I'm pretty sure we hear his name more often I think there's some reasonss he's not in baseball right now.

 

He's in baseball. He's just in management for the Nationals as opposed to coaching.

[Tracer Bullet]

I don't want Piniella and hopefully Hendry won't jones for him like he did Baker.

 

Fredi Gonzalez would be a better choice and he would come at a much reduced price.

 

If Jimmy Boy is going to open the wallet to attract a premeier manager, then he should call Davey Johnson.

 

Agree Agree Agree

[Mizzou]

Can someone run through the good and the bad about Piniella?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I don't want Piniella and hopefully Hendry won't jones for him like he did Baker.

 

Fredi Gonzalez would be a better choice and he would come at a much reduced price.

 

If Jimmy Boy is going to open the wallet to attract a premeier manager, then he should call Davey Johnson.

 

With all the turnover in baseball if Davey Johnson was a premeier manger I'm pretty sure we hear his name more often I think there's some reasonss he's not in baseball right now.

 

Davey isn't in baseball because he's a very abrasive person and rubs people the wrong way. He's a good manager, but FO types don't like him. I'm not sure of all the details, but he's been on the outs more for his personality rather than his abilities.

[rocket]

Can someone run through the good and the bad about Piniella?

 

Good:

Has world series gold

Has fiery temper which could lead to potential legendary cubs moments

Slight possibility his fiery temper makes the cubs play slightly better

 

Bad:

Has a bigger veteran fetish than Dusty

May or may not understand the importance of OBP. We need someone who goes publicly on record saying OBP is important.

 

I really don't know much about him, other than those.

[CuseCubFan69]

I don't want Piniella and hopefully Hendry won't jones for him like he did Baker.

 

Fredi Gonzalez would be a better choice and he would come at a much reduced price.

 

If Jimmy Boy is going to open the wallet to attract a premeier manager, then he should call Davey Johnson.

 

With all the turnover in baseball if Davey Johnson was a premeier manger I'm pretty sure we hear his name more often I think there's some reasonss he's not in baseball right now.

 

Davey isn't in baseball because he's a very abrasive person and rubs people the wrong way. He's a good manager, but FO types don't like him. I'm not sure of all the details, but he's been on the outs more for his personality rather than his abilities.

 

Didn't Marge fire him because he lived in sin with his girlfriend?

[rawaction]

Can someone run through the good and the bad about Piniella?

 

Good:

Has world series gold

Has fiery temper which could lead to potential legendary cubs moments

Slight possibility his fiery temper makes the cubs play slightly better

 

Bad:

Has a bigger veteran fetish than Dusty

May or may not understand the importance of OBP. We need someone who goes publicly on record saying OBP is important.

 

I really don't know much about him, other than those.

 

Bad: Not a good manager of his pitching staff. Overuses his starters as much if not more than Baker.

[JWCUB]

I want to steal Girardi away from the fish.

[CuseCubFan69]

I want to steal Girardi away from the fish.

 

It's going to cost you quite a few worms to do that.

[NorthsideAvenger]

I want to steal Girardi away from the fish.

 

It's going to cost you quite a few worms to do that.

 

Let's bring Billy Martin back to life, before Steinbrenner does, then fired Martin...j/k

 

I will basically endorse anybody as manager---excluding Hargrove and Piniella---as long as Baker is gone.

 

And when Baker is gone, maybe he will take the Fanchise Player with him....you know who they are....

[Dirt Dog Sparly]

I don't want Piniella and hopefully Hendry won't jones for him like he did Baker.

 

Fredi Gonzalez would be a better choice and he would come at a much reduced price.

 

If Jimmy Boy is going to open the wallet to attract a premeier manager, then he should call Davey Johnson.

 

With all the turnover in baseball if Davey Johnson was a premeier manger I'm pretty sure we hear his name more often I think there's some reasonss he's not in baseball right now.

 

Davey isn't in baseball because he's a very abrasive person and rubs people the wrong way. He's a good manager, but FO types don't like him. I'm not sure of all the details, but he's been on the outs more for his personality rather than his abilities.

 

Didn't Marge fire him because he lived in sin with his girlfriend?

 

Yep, that and the fact that he wasnt impressed by her collection of Nazi stuff.

[Andy]

Trib mentioned Piniella and Fredi as options today. If Lou turns us down, here's hoping Hendry settles for Fredi.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Hypothetical:

What if the Cubs/Hendry evaluated Baker decided to hang on to him and then fired him at the end of the year due to continued losing and the Yankees missed the playoffs and fired Torre?

 

Would Torre be a good option? Would he even consider the Cubs?

 

The reason I ask is because I really don't know if Torre is a good manager or not. I never really scrutinized his managing skills when he was with the Cardinals and I was young when he managed the Braves.

 

Pros:

1. Has won

 

2. Respected by players

 

Cons:

1. American league managing is easier

 

2. not to hard to figure out a line up for the Yankee temas he has had

 

 

Would he be a viable option if this were the scenario?

Edited July 6, 2006 by RonnieWooWooSanto

[Andy]

Hypothetical:

What if the Cubs/Hendry evaluated Baker decided to hang on to him and then fired him at the end of the year due to continued losing and the Yankees missed the playoffs and fired Torre?

 

Would Torre be a good option? Would he even consider the Cubs?

 

The reason I ask is because I really don;t know if Torre is a good manager or not. I never really wcrutinized his managing with the Cardinals and I was young when he managed the Braves.

 

1. American league managing is easier

 

2. not to hard to figure out a line up for the Yankee temas he has had

 

 

Would he be a vialbe option if this were the wcenario?

He does bat high-OBP Derek Jeter leadoff and low-OBP Robinson Cano low in the order, although that probably has more to do with reputation than OBP.

[HoopsCubs]

FWIW, this is according to Jayson Stark. If the Cubs want him for the remainder of this season then Piniella would not accept the job. Stark does not believe that Piniella would even jump into the middle of this mess.

 

Plus, Stark believes Piniella is waiting for the Yankee job. If the Yankees do not make the playoffs, he is certain that Torre will be fired even though they have been hampered by injuries.

 

He said this yesterday on ESPN radio(Mike and Mike In the Morning).

 

 

Personally, I would be glad if he turned it down.

 

Is is possible that Piniella could also be waiting for his old boss Pat Gillick to give him a call about taking the Phillies job? I'm assuming, of course, that Gillick will fire Charlie Manuel, which is not a slam-dunk assumption at this point, though many writers think he'll go along with Dusty shortly after the break.

[CuseCubFan69]

Hypothetical:

What if the Cubs/Hendry evaluated Baker decided to hang on to him and then fired him at the end of the year due to continued losing and the Yankees missed the playoffs and fired Torre?

 

Would Torre be a good option? Would he even consider the Cubs?

 

The reason I ask is because I really don't know if Torre is a good manager or not. I never really scrutinized his managing skills when he was with the Cardinals and I was young when he managed the Braves.

 

Pros:

1. Has won

 

2. Respected by players

 

Cons:

1. American league managing is easier

 

2. not to hard to figure out a line up for the Yankee temas he has had

 

 

Would he be a viable option if this were the scenario?

 

Lou won his World Series managing in the NL.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Hypothetical:

What if the Cubs/Hendry evaluated Baker decided to hang on to him and then fired him at the end of the year due to continued losing and the Yankees missed the playoffs and fired Torre?

 

Would Torre be a good option? Would he even consider the Cubs?

 

The reason I ask is because I really don't know if Torre is a good manager or not. I never really scrutinized his managing skills when he was with the Cardinals and I was young when he managed the Braves.

 

Pros:

1. Has won

 

2. Respected by players

 

Cons:

1. American league managing is easier

 

2. not to hard to figure out a line up for the Yankee temas he has had

 

 

Would he be a viable option if this were the scenario?

 

Lou won his World Series managing in the NL.

 

My post that you quoted is about Joe Torre. Or are you just stressing that Piniella should be the choice. I'm confused. :cry:

[Guest]

Hypothetical:

What if the Cubs/Hendry evaluated Baker decided to hang on to him and then fired him at the end of the year due to continued losing and the Yankees missed the playoffs and fired Torre?

 

Would Torre be a good option? Would he even consider the Cubs?

 

The reason I ask is because I really don't know if Torre is a good manager or not. I never really scrutinized his managing skills when he was with the Cardinals and I was young when he managed the Braves.

 

Pros:

1. Has won

 

2. Respected by players

 

Cons:

1. American league managing is easier

 

2. not to hard to figure out a line up for the Yankee temas he has had

 

 

Would he be a viable option if this were the scenario?

Ask Paul Quantrill about Torre's habit of running a reliever out there every day until he's completely useless.

 

The exact wrong manager for Farnsworth, btw.

[Iceblink]

From today's Sun-Times:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/deluca/cst-spt-deluca061.html

 

One sticking point for contenders: Piniella is not interested in a rebuilding effort. With a strong core and deep pockets, the Cubs would be the perfect fit for Piniella...

 

A strong core? Where?

[CUBZ99]

Shouldn't this thread title have a question mark on it or (report)? I heard Jayson Starks saying basically the same thing yesterday morning on the Mike and Mike show and he stated that it was his opinion that Piniella wouldn't manage the Cubs.

 

The title makes it appear as Piniella came out and said he wasn't interested or wouldn't take the job.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Shouldn't this thread title have a question mark on it or (report)? I heard Jayson Starks saying basically the same thing yesterday morning on the Mike and Mike show and he stated that it was his opinion that Piniella wouldn't manage the Cubs.

 

The title makes it appear as Piniella came out and said he wasn't interested or wouldn't take the job.

 

C'mon now. It was simply an attention getter and the bulk of the post implies it is the opinion of Stark.

 

From the original thread:

Plus, Stark believes Piniella is waiting for the Yankee job

 

It is a message board not the NY Times. But, I'll make sure I hire an editor next time before hitting submit.