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Better yet, is there any circumstance, ever, in which Hill would get another chance to pitch in the big leagues by your standards cubbiechris?

 

I say it right now. Hill will never be a effective starter. There I said it and I will stand by it. I hope that I'm wrong....I really do.

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Better yet, is there any circumstance, ever, in which Hill would get another chance to pitch in the big leagues by your standards cubbiechris?

 

I say it right now. Hill will never be a effective starter. There I said it and I will stand by it. I hope that I'm wrong....I really do.

 

But he's already an effective starter at AAA, so what are you basing this on?

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But you're advocating giving Rusch another shot -- the same shot he's failed at for 9 years. They're all higher ceiling pitchers than Fat Glen and almost all will perform the same or better if given the chance. Difference is, they are going to get better. Glendon is wasting a roster spot.

 

I'm not advocating Rusch another shot. You can give him 10 more shots and he'll pitch 2 decent games out of them. I'm just saying we don't have anyone better at this moment. What's with all the anger?

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Better yet, is there any circumstance, ever, in which Hill would get another chance to pitch in the big leagues by your standards cubbiechris?

 

I say it right now. Hill will never be a effective starter. There I said it and I will stand by it. I hope that I'm wrong....I really do.

 

But he's already an effective starter at AAA, so what are you basing this on?

 

Key word being AAA...The minors are filled with effective minor league starters who never made it in the big leagues. I think Hill will be best suited as a lefty specialist if he can gain some sort of control. What's with all this Hill love? What has he shown that leads you people to believe he'll be a good starter in the ML?

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Better yet, is there any circumstance, ever, in which Hill would get another chance to pitch in the big leagues by your standards cubbiechris?

 

As soon as he proves himself on the major league level he can get an opportunity to prove himself at the major league level.

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Better yet, is there any circumstance, ever, in which Hill would get another chance to pitch in the big leagues by your standards cubbiechris?

 

I say it right now. Hill will never be a effective starter. There I said it and I will stand by it. I hope that I'm wrong....I really do.

I agree with you, I think that Hill is nothing more than a AAA pitcher. But, I'd still rather see him start than Glendon. Hill can prove me wrong (and I hope he does), but there's no way that Glendon will just suddenly stop being a bad pitcher.

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Better yet, is there any circumstance, ever, in which Hill would get another chance to pitch in the big leagues by your standards cubbiechris?

 

I say it right now. Hill will never be a effective starter. There I said it and I will stand by it. I hope that I'm wrong....I really do.

 

That didn't answer my question. It was a yes or no question. Is there any way, in your eyes, that Hill could EVER earn another shot?

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In case I'm not here tonight when I usually say this, here are some preemptive "who didn't see that one coming"s for the Reds' homers off of Glendon.

 

1. who didn't see that one coming?

 

2. who didn't see that one coming?

 

3. who didn't see that one coming?

 

4. who didn't see that one coming?

 

5. who didn't see that one coming?

 

6. who didn't see that one coming?

 

7. who didn't see that one coming?

 

8. who didn't see that one coming?

 

9. who didn't see that one coming?

 

Feel free to cut and paste as necessary.

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What has he shown that leads you people to believe he'll be a good starter in the ML?

 

He's shown me plenty in the minors, and hasn't enough opportunity in the Majors to show me much of anything. I don't know if Hill is going to be great, good or even average, but I'd like to see him get more of a chance. It's sink or swim time.

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Better yet, is there any circumstance, ever, in which Hill would get another chance to pitch in the big leagues by your standards cubbiechris?

 

I say it right now. Hill will never be a effective starter. There I said it and I will stand by it. I hope that I'm wrong....I really do.

I agree with you, I think that Hill is nothing more than a AAA pitcher. But, I'd still rather see him start than Glendon. Hill can prove me wrong (and I hope he does), but there's no way that Glendon will just suddenly stop being a bad pitcher.

 

I know but Hill is on 4 days rest, like I said in my previous post. Obviously when Rusch once again gets bombed tonight, then they have to fill in someone to take his place. Might as well be Hill until Prior comes back.

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What has he shown that leads you people to believe he'll be a good starter in the ML?

 

He's shown me plenty in the minors, and hasn't enough opportunity in the Majors to show me much of anything. I don't know if Hill is going to be great, good or even average, but I'd like to see him get more of a chance. It's sink or swim time.

 

I agree with you. Don't forget he's 28 years old. He's as old as Kerry Wood for god sakes!

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What has he shown that leads you people to believe he'll be a good starter in the ML?

 

He's shown me plenty in the minors, and hasn't enough opportunity in the Majors to show me much of anything. I don't know if Hill is going to be great, good or even average, but I'd like to see him get more of a chance. It's sink or swim time.

 

I agree with you. Don't forget he's 28 years old. He's as old as Kerry Wood for god sakes!

 

So now you're just making up ages?

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What has he shown that leads you people to believe he'll be a good starter in the ML?

 

He's shown me plenty in the minors, and hasn't enough opportunity in the Majors to show me much of anything. I don't know if Hill is going to be great, good or even average, but I'd like to see him get more of a chance. It's sink or swim time.

 

I agree with you. Don't forget he's 28 years old. He's as old as Kerry Wood for god sakes!

 

Or he's 26.

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What has he shown that leads you people to believe he'll be a good starter in the ML?

 

He's shown me plenty in the minors, and hasn't enough opportunity in the Majors to show me much of anything. I don't know if Hill is going to be great, good or even average, but I'd like to see him get more of a chance. It's sink or swim time.

 

I agree with you. Don't forget he's 28 years old. He's as old as Kerry Wood for god sakes!

 

Or he's 26.

 

he vactioned in the Dominican Republic.

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What has he shown that leads you people to believe he'll be a good starter in the ML?

 

He's shown me plenty in the minors, and hasn't enough opportunity in the Majors to show me much of anything. I don't know if Hill is going to be great, good or even average, but I'd like to see him get more of a chance. It's sink or swim time.

 

I agree with you. Don't forget he's 28 years old. He's as old as Kerry Wood for god sakes!

 

So now you're just making up ages?

 

Oops you are right he's "only" 26. Sorry 'bout that. I thought he was older.

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If they're expecting Prior back in a couple weeks, I can see why they're still going w/ Rusch, cause Prior's just going to bump one of the kids back down to Iowa.
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Better yet, is there any circumstance, ever, in which Hill would get another chance to pitch in the big leagues by your standards cubbiechris?

 

I say it right now. Hill will never be a effective starter. There I said it and I will stand by it. I hope that I'm wrong....I really do.

 

But he's already an effective starter at AAA, so what are you basing this on?

 

Key word being AAA...The minors are filled with effective minor league starters who never made it in the big leagues. I think Hill will be best suited as a lefty specialist if he can gain some sort of control. What's with all this Hill love? What has he shown that leads you people to believe he'll be a good starter in the ML?

 

A really really really big curveball.

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Don't know how Reds line up, but the Cubs will go thusly, as of 3 Eastern Time:

 

Pierre, CF

Womack, 2B

Barrett, C

Walker, 1B

Ramirez, 3B

Jones, RF

Murton, LF

Cedeno, SS

Rusch, P

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Don't know how Reds line up, but the Cubs will go thusly, as of 3 Eastern Time:

 

Pierre, CF

Womack, 2B

Barrett, C

Walker, 1B

Ramirez, 3B

Jones, RF

Murton, LF

Cedeno, SS

Rusch, P

 

I wonder why we got Phil Nevin.

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Don't know how Reds line up, but the Cubs will go thusly, as of 3 Eastern Time:

 

Pierre, CF

Womack, 2B

Barrett, C

Walker, 1B

Ramirez, 3B

Jones, RF

Murton, LF

Cedeno, SS

Rusch, P

 

I wonder why we got Phil Nevin.

 

Me too.

 

I'm tired of the slap & run lineup.

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Don't know how Reds line up, but the Cubs will go thusly, as of 3 Eastern Time:

 

Pierre, CF

Womack, 2B

Barrett, C

Walker, 1B

Ramirez, 3B

Jones, RF

Murton, LF

Cedeno, SS

Rusch, P

 

I wonder why we got Phil Nevin.

 

Good question. Womack is in a 2-23 funk too I think

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Don't know how Reds line up, but the Cubs will go thusly, as of 3 Eastern Time:

 

Pierre, CF

Womack, 2B

Barrett, C

Walker, 1B

Ramirez, 3B

Jones, RF

Murton, LF

Cedeno, SS

Rusch, P

 

I wonder why we got Phil Nevin.

 

Good question. Womack is in a 2-23 funk too I think

 

That's unpossible, speed doesn't slump. Besides, he's so gellin' he's like Magellan.

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Don't know how Reds line up, but the Cubs will go thusly, as of 3 Eastern Time:

 

Pierre, CF

Womack, 2B

Barrett, C

Walker, 1B

Ramirez, 3B

Jones, RF

Murton, LF

Cedeno, SS

Rusch, P

 

No surprise here....

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Better yet, is there any circumstance, ever, in which Hill would get another chance to pitch in the big leagues by your standards cubbiechris?

 

I say it right now. Hill will never be a effective starter. There I said it and I will stand by it. I hope that I'm wrong....I really do.

 

But he's already an effective starter at AAA, so what are you basing this on?

 

Key word being AAA...The minors are filled with effective minor league starters who never made it in the big leagues. I think Hill will be best suited as a lefty specialist if he can gain some sort of control. What's with all this Hill love? What has he shown that leads you people to believe he'll be a good starter in the ML?

 

A really really really big curveball.

 

That he can't get over the plate. You want to see a good curveball that is thrown for strikes watch Marshall.

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