5-27 Post-Game Thread: Viva Womack!

[Outshined_One]

Sad that the Cubs wasted good outings from Marshall, Howry, and Eyre.

[BigSlick]

Sad that the Cubs wasted good outings from Marshall, Howry, and Eyre.

 

Par for the course, my friend.

 

 

Par for the course.

[JC]

Sad that the Cubs wasted good outings from Marshall, Howry, and Eyre.

 

Par for the course, my friend.

 

 

Par for the course.

 

More like an expected triple bogie.

[KaiserCesar]

Hey, I've been on the moon for the last four weeks, what's been going on?

 

 

 

Oh dear.......

[Outshined_One]

Sad that the Cubs wasted good outings from Marshall, Howry, and Eyre.

 

Par for the course, my friend.

 

 

Par for the course.

 

Actually, lately it's been a combination of bad pitching and bad hitting that's done the Cubs in. The pitching was pretty good today, all things considered. Marshall got himself into and out of a few jams, Howry did really well, and Eyre shut down the Braves.

 

The offense, on the other hand? Blah.

[BigSlick]

Sad that the Cubs wasted good outings from Marshall, Howry, and Eyre.

 

Par for the course, my friend.

 

 

Par for the course.

 

Actually, lately it's been a combination of bad pitching and bad hitting that's done the Cubs in. The pitching was pretty good today, all things considered. Marshall got himself into and out of a few jams, Howry did really well, and Eyre shut down the Braves.

 

The offense, on the other hand? Blah.

 

You just watch, tomorrow we'll put up 8 and lose by 7 runs.

[otis89]

"Viva Womack!"

 

Yep. That pinch-hit single earned him the start at second tomorrow.

[Mizzou]

"Viva Womack!"

 

Yep. That pinch-hit single earned him the start at second tomorrow.

I hope so.

[Outshined_One]

"Viva Womack!"

 

Yep. That pinch-hit single earned him the start at second tomorrow.

I hope so.

 

He's the long-term answer needed at second!

[BigbadB]

Sad that the Cubs wasted good outings from Marshall, Howry, and Eyre.

 

Par for the course, my friend.

 

 

Par for the course.

 

More like an expected triple bogie.

 

Well played. =D>

[Clogged Basepaths]

"Viva Womack!"

 

Yep. That pinch-hit single earned him the start at second tomorrow.

 

You mean the next 75 starts, right?

[Backtobanks]

"Viva Womack!"

 

Yep. That pinch-hit single earned him the start at second tomorrow.

 

and hopefully he's leading off.

[Andy]

"Viva Womack!"

 

Yep. That pinch-hit single earned him the start at second tomorrow.

 

You mean the next 75 starts, right?

I want Womack starting at second until DLee gets back and Todd can take over. I'm sick of Neifi's sub .200 on-base and Hairston being just plain stupid.

[Cubbies4Life]

If Dusty is back here next year then Hendry needs to take care of his obsession with Neifi and just cut him, he adds no positives to this team.

[Clogged Basepaths]

"Viva Womack!"

 

Yep. That pinch-hit single earned him the start at second tomorrow.

 

You mean the next 75 starts, right?

I want Womack starting at second until DLee gets back and Todd can take over. I'm sick of Neifi's sub .200 on-base and Hairston being just plain stupid.

 

In no way was I suggesting Neifi should get the starts instead of Womack. I think I just threw up in my mouth.

[NewUserName]

Speaking of Womack over Neifi. When Lee and Pagan do come back who comes off the team? I would have a hard time saying we should trim the bullpen back when the starters have been so ineffective. The only logical choices would be Neifi (since we have Womack to do what he pretty much does) Bynum or Mabry.

[wastra]

My biggest concern with Womanck is that he'll be decent for the rest of the year. We all know he'll get a two year, $7 million deal from Hendry if he hits .260 or better. :roll:

[KaiserCesar]

A few concerns with Womack. One, he produces enough to be signed through 07 instead of Walker or giving EPatt a chance. Two, once Pie is called up for Pierre, Womack is used as the "speedy leadoff man" and gets a vast majority of the starts. Three, he's terrible.

[scs_paradise]

Sad that the Cubs wasted good outings from Marshall, Howry, and Eyre.

 

Par for the course, my friend.

 

 

Par for the course.

 

Actually, lately it's been a combination of bad pitching and bad hitting that's done the Cubs in. The pitching was pretty good today, all things considered. Marshall got himself into and out of a few jams, Howry did really well, and Eyre shut down the Braves.

 

The offense, on the other hand? Blah.

 

You just watch, tomorrow we'll put up 8 and lose by 7 runs.

 

Good call.

[Jehrico]

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it was an update of our record over the last 32 games (5-27).

[cubfan1955]

Concerning Saturdays game of 1 run scored on 10 hits here is an excerpt from a Daily Herald article on the White Sox loss while scoring 2 runs on 14 hits. It shows the contrast of our skipper to Guillen. I'd really like to see Dusty do more of this kind of thing instead of trying to be every players friend. Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere.

 

Predictably, Guillen went bonkers after the game, and he made sure his comments were loud enough to be heard throughout the clubhouse.

 

“I think it was a horse(bleep) game,’’ Guillen said. “I think when a team can get 14 hits and score 2 runs, that means we’re not executing. That was horrible, horrible, pathetic execution by us.

 

“If we think we’re going to play like this, and they think they’re going to be a contender and in the pennant race, well, they’d better look at themselves in the mirror.’’

 

Guillen was just getting warmed up.

 

“Good teams don’t play games like that,’’ he said. “We’re better than that. We’re way better than that. Fourteen hits and 2 runs, that’s not White Sox baseball. The guys are supposed to do the little things, and they stink today and I’m not going to put up with this (bleep) too long.

 

“We’re not playing baseball. We just hit. To win a pennant race and to be where we’re supposed to be, you have to do everything you can to help this team. And if they’re not willing to do it, there’s going to be a lot of (bleeping) changes in the (bleeping) lineup pretty soon.

 

“I’m not panicking. I don’t worry about it. But this is the worst game you can play. Everyone thinks it’s a good game. Bull(bleep). You can say we battled. Yeah, we did. But we shouldn’t be in that situation to battle. We should score more runs and play a better game.’’

 

Guillen didn’t mention any names, but leadoff man Scott Podsednik’s failure to put down a good bunt in the ninth inning cost the Sox dearly.

 

With Ryan on the mound for the Jays, Joe Crede led off with a double. Pinch hitter Pablo Ozuna did get a good bunt down, and he was safe at first on catcher Gregg Zaun’s error.

 

The White Sox’ next hitter, Juan Uribe, drove in Crede with an infield single, and Podsednik came to the plate in an obvious sacrifice situation. He put the ball in play, but it was right at Ryan, who threw to third base to force out Ozuna.

 

Ryan regrouped and struck out Tadahito Iguchi and Jim Thome (0-for-6, 3 strikeouts) to get out of the inning.

 

With one out in the bottom of the 11th, Shea Hillenbrand homered off Jeff Nelson to end the game.

 

“If you’re going to blame us for playing like (bleep), blame it on me,’’ Guillen said. “But I’m not taking that (bleep) anymore. We don’t bunt the ball when we’re supposed to bunt the ball. That’s our game. Those guys have to do what they’re supposed to do, and we’ll get better.”

[YearofDaCubs]

Concerning Saturdays game of 1 run scored on 10 hits here is an excerpt from a Daily Herald article on the White Sox loss while scoring 2 runs on 14 hits. It shows the contrast of our skipper to Guillen. I'd really like to see Dusty do more of this kind of thing instead of trying to be every players friend. Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere.

 

Predictably, Guillen went bonkers after the game, and he made sure his comments were loud enough to be heard throughout the clubhouse.

 

“I think it was a horse(bleep) game,’’ Guillen said. “I think when a team can get 14 hits and score 2 runs, that means we’re not executing. That was horrible, horrible, pathetic execution by us.

 

“If we think we’re going to play like this, and they think they’re going to be a contender and in the pennant race, well, they’d better look at themselves in the mirror.’’

 

Guillen was just getting warmed up.

 

“Good teams don’t play games like that,’’ he said. “We’re better than that. We’re way better than that. Fourteen hits and 2 runs, that’s not White Sox baseball. The guys are supposed to do the little things, and they stink today and I’m not going to put up with this (bleep) too long.

 

“We’re not playing baseball. We just hit. To win a pennant race and to be where we’re supposed to be, you have to do everything you can to help this team. And if they’re not willing to do it, there’s going to be a lot of (bleeping) changes in the (bleeping) lineup pretty soon.

 

“I’m not panicking. I don’t worry about it. But this is the worst game you can play. Everyone thinks it’s a good game. Bull(bleep). You can say we battled. Yeah, we did. But we shouldn’t be in that situation to battle. We should score more runs and play a better game.’’

 

Guillen didn’t mention any names, but leadoff man Scott Podsednik’s failure to put down a good bunt in the ninth inning cost the Sox dearly.

 

With Ryan on the mound for the Jays, Joe Crede led off with a double. Pinch hitter Pablo Ozuna did get a good bunt down, and he was safe at first on catcher Gregg Zaun’s error.

 

The White Sox’ next hitter, Juan Uribe, drove in Crede with an infield single, and Podsednik came to the plate in an obvious sacrifice situation. He put the ball in play, but it was right at Ryan, who threw to third base to force out Ozuna.

 

Ryan regrouped and struck out Tadahito Iguchi and Jim Thome (0-for-6, 3 strikeouts) to get out of the inning.

 

With one out in the bottom of the 11th, Shea Hillenbrand homered off Jeff Nelson to end the game.

 

“If you’re going to blame us for playing like (bleep), blame it on me,’’ Guillen said. “But I’m not taking that (bleep) anymore. We don’t bunt the ball when we’re supposed to bunt the ball. That’s our game. Those guys have to do what they’re supposed to do, and we’ll get better.”

Dusty lay into his players? Only if they are rookies. Seriously, Baker is the wrong type of manager we need here right now. He benched Cedeno today probably because of his error on Sat yet when Neifi makes errors and costs us games Baker does nothing. Dusty "double standards" Baker.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

Concerning Saturdays game of 1 run scored on 10 hits here is an excerpt from a Daily Herald article on the White Sox loss while scoring 2 runs on 14 hits. It shows the contrast of our skipper to Guillen. I'd really like to see Dusty do more of this kind of thing instead of trying to be every players friend. Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere.

 

Predictably, Guillen went bonkers after the game, and he made sure his comments were loud enough to be heard throughout the clubhouse.

 

“I think it was a horse(bleep) game,’’ Guillen said. “I think when a team can get 14 hits and score 2 runs, that means we’re not executing. That was horrible, horrible, pathetic execution by us.

 

“If we think we’re going to play like this, and they think they’re going to be a contender and in the pennant race, well, they’d better look at themselves in the mirror.’’

 

Guillen was just getting warmed up.

 

“Good teams don’t play games like that,’’ he said. “We’re better than that. We’re way better than that. Fourteen hits and 2 runs, that’s not White Sox baseball. The guys are supposed to do the little things, and they stink today and I’m not going to put up with this (bleep) too long.

 

“We’re not playing baseball. We just hit. To win a pennant race and to be where we’re supposed to be, you have to do everything you can to help this team. And if they’re not willing to do it, there’s going to be a lot of (bleeping) changes in the (bleeping) lineup pretty soon.

 

“I’m not panicking. I don’t worry about it. But this is the worst game you can play. Everyone thinks it’s a good game. Bull(bleep). You can say we battled. Yeah, we did. But we shouldn’t be in that situation to battle. We should score more runs and play a better game.’’

 

Guillen didn’t mention any names, but leadoff man Scott Podsednik’s failure to put down a good bunt in the ninth inning cost the Sox dearly.

 

With Ryan on the mound for the Jays, Joe Crede led off with a double. Pinch hitter Pablo Ozuna did get a good bunt down, and he was safe at first on catcher Gregg Zaun’s error.

 

The White Sox’ next hitter, Juan Uribe, drove in Crede with an infield single, and Podsednik came to the plate in an obvious sacrifice situation. He put the ball in play, but it was right at Ryan, who threw to third base to force out Ozuna.

 

Ryan regrouped and struck out Tadahito Iguchi and Jim Thome (0-for-6, 3 strikeouts) to get out of the inning.

 

With one out in the bottom of the 11th, Shea Hillenbrand homered off Jeff Nelson to end the game.

 

“If you’re going to blame us for playing like (bleep), blame it on me,’’ Guillen said. “But I’m not taking that (bleep) anymore. We don’t bunt the ball when we’re supposed to bunt the ball. That’s our game. Those guys have to do what they’re supposed to do, and we’ll get better.”

 

 

For the purposes of contrast, here is Jim Tracy's approach.

 

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12998136/

 

PITTSBURGH - Manager Jim Tracy says he is convinced that he’s done everything he can to put the last-place Pittsburgh Pirates in position to win games, and all but pinned the blame Friday for the team’s worst start in 52 years on his players.

 

“I can’t catch it, I can’t throw it and I can’t hit it,” Tracy said. “That’s not my job. I’m not allowed to do that. My job is to get them in a position to where the stage is set and the opportunity is there for them to carry it out, finish the job and win.”

[BigSlick]

Sad that the Cubs wasted good outings from Marshall, Howry, and Eyre.

 

Par for the course, my friend.

 

 

Par for the course.

 

Actually, lately it's been a combination of bad pitching and bad hitting that's done the Cubs in. The pitching was pretty good today, all things considered. Marshall got himself into and out of a few jams, Howry did really well, and Eyre shut down the Braves.

 

The offense, on the other hand? Blah.

 

You just watch, tomorrow we'll put up 8 and lose by 7 runs.

 

Good call.

 

Gah! How many weeks' worth of runs did we use up today (in a loss no less)?