The Official Apathy Thread!

[Andy]

The Bulls have the brightest future of any team in the league, the Panthers and ND are both expected to compete for titles this fall.

 

I repeat the above to myself every time I see another Cubs rally killed or every time I see a crappy outing by Guzman or the like.

[David]

As long as the Tribune owns this team, they will lose. A successful season to them is a profitable one. We need an owner who will settle for nothing less then championship baseball.

 

But still, this is the worst Cubs team in decades... the wheels have totally come off the bus and like the OP, I find myself reveling in my fan-depravity... the Cubs set new records in futility each year and if nothing else, I can point to that as my source of entertainment.

 

Sadly though even Reds fans have more to chear about then Northsiders.

 

The terrible management of this team stems from Andy MacPhail on down to Hendry and Baker. It has nothing to do with the Tribune. The Trib spends more than enough to field a winner.

 

The fact that we are this terrible with the payroll we have (admittedly, with injuries to key players) is just a disgrace.

[Fred Hornkohl]

As long as the Tribune owns this team, they will lose. A successful season to them is a profitable one. We need an owner who will settle for nothing less then championship baseball.

 

But still, this is the worst Cubs team in decades... the wheels have totally come off the bus and like the OP, I find myself reveling in my fan-depravity... the Cubs set new records in futility each year and if nothing else, I can point to that as my source of entertainment.

 

Sadly though even Reds fans have more to chear about then Northsiders.

 

After Sunday's loss.... the CUBS are on a pace win 76 games this year. That would give them a record of 76-86 with a winning percentage of 0.469. Now, I'm not suggesting this is a good thing, but it's not the worst team we've ever seen but a long shot. Consider all of these CUBS teams....

 

Year       W     L     Pct
1877      26    33   0.441
1893      56    71   0.441
1894      57    75   0.432
1897      59    73   0.447
1900      65    75   0.464
1901      53    86   0.381
1916      67    86   0.438
1921      64    89   0.418
1925      68    86   0.442
1941      70    84   0.455
1942      70    84   0.455
1947      69    85   0.448
1948      64    90   0.416
1949      61    93   0.396
1950      64    89   0.418
1951      62    92   0.403
1953      65    89   0.422
1954      64    90   0.416
1956      60    94   0.390
1957      62    92   0.403
1958      72    82   0.468
1960      60    94   0.390
1961      64    90   0.416
1962      59   103   0.364
1965      72    90   0.444
1966      59   103   0.364
1974      66    96   0.407
1975      75    87   0.463
1976      75    87   0.463
1980      64    98   0.395
1981      38    65   0.369
1982      73    89   0.451
1983      71    91   0.438
1986      70    90   0.438
1994      49    64   0.434
1997      68    94   0.420
1999      67    95   0.414
2000      65    97   0.401
2002      67    95   0.414

 

Now, if you would have said.... "...this is the worst CUBS team in decades, the 1880's & the 1930's specifically ...", then you'd be right on the mark !!

[Soul]

You're right Fred.

 

But, it does put us right back where we started before Baker got here.

 

In other words, Dusty sucks and hasn't done diddly poo other than be the beneficiary of a nice (and lucky--?) trade by Hendry in 2003. Since then, we've slid right back down into the tank circa 2002.

 

Dusty MUST GO NOW. And don't cry for Dusty. He can take his millions and build some beach house somewhere----sip drinks for the remainder of his life and teach baseball to his kid. I should be so lucky. But he cannot be the manager of this ballclub any more.

[neely crenshaw]

i have no idea why anyone has trust in hendry to ever improve the club! he has made some moves that worked but time has shown this to be dumb luch rather than skill..

keep in mind

he got logton for 2 months and he was great for us....so was randall simon but neither has done much for anyone since..we got lucky and caught lightning in a bottle

aram was a gamble..they took a struggling, lazy former stud from pittsburgh, who has worked out but remember they passed up rolen( a much surer bet) to gamble on aram.

lee for choi was his best deal but at the time it was hardly the great deal it is today. it was good deal because his defense owuld help aram...no one in baseball ever thought that dlee would become the dominate hitter he has...it was a good deal but i can not give hendry credit for what he became...we also had a shot at thome, who is pretty darn good.

we got barrett, who has been great on offense..much better than i ever thought but he struggles on d and you must factor in that he passed on pudge for the gamble on barrett. i think pudges o and d would far surpass what barrett has done for us...plus he is very clutch!

dempster worked out BUT we went 2 and half season with out a real closer. it is obvious that hendry was fine to let hawkins and jobo close last season. he allowed dusty to put him in the rotation..and i am sorry as a gm- if i have ideas of making someone a closer...and that's why i didn't sign anyone else...i do not let my manager put him in the rotation...he got the gig because everyone else absolutley failed..not because hendry is smart

i liked the nomar move but it failed. the problem i have is that the only move he made was nomar..no closer,no lead off man...no outfield help just nomar, so we were completely relying on his health to improve the cubs...and as we all know that wasn't a good bet.

this year we gambled that our big moves would return to their production of old. that doesn't happen very often. i don't mind pierre, we may have given up too much but at the time because we couldn't get furcal, we had to get pierre or lofton....i have to go with pierre- especially because he is in the last year..he doesn't work out...his gone. jones for 3 years, at 6 mil is possibly the worst deal in cubs history. hendry should get fired over this.

i am no baseball guru but i can not believe that anyone was offering jones 3 years at any price, and i can not see anyone coming close to 6 mil a year, even for one year! we have a young stud in the minors who is close to being ready, who can't really be a lead off guy and another young guy pretty set in left so you sign another vet of'er for 3 years! WHY? if pierre goes we will obviously have to find a replacement outfielder/lead off man or we will be right back to 2004-2005!

[neely crenshaw]

As long as the Tribune owns this team, they will lose. A successful season to them is a profitable one. We need an owner who will settle for nothing less then championship baseball.

 

But still, this is the worst Cubs team in decades... the wheels have totally come off the bus and like the OP, I find myself reveling in my fan-depravity... the Cubs set new records in futility each year and if nothing else, I can point to that as my source of entertainment.

 

Sadly though even Reds fans have more to chear about then Northsiders.

 

After Sunday's loss.... the CUBS are on a pace win 76 games this year. That would give them a record of 76-86 with a winning percentage of

0.469. Now, I'm not suggesting this is a good thing, but it's not the worst team we've ever seen but a long shot. Consider all of these CUBS teams....

 

Year       W     L     Pct
1877      26    33   0.441
1893      56    71   0.441
1894      57    75   0.432
1897      59    73   0.447
1900      65    75   0.464
1901      53    86   0.381
1916      67    86   0.438
1921      64    89   0.418
1925      68    86   0.442
1941      70    84   0.455
1942      70    84   0.455
1947      69    85   0.448
1948      64    90   0.416
1949      61    93   0.396
1950      64    89   0.418
1951      62    92   0.403
1953      65    89   0.422
1954      64    90   0.416
1956      60    94   0.390
1957      62    92   0.403
1958      72    82   0.468
1960      60    94   0.390
1961      64    90   0.416
1962      59   103   0.364
1965      72    90   0.444
1966      59   103   0.364
1974      66    96   0.407
1975      75    87   0.463
1976      75    87   0.463
1980      64    98   0.395
1981      38    65   0.369
1982      73    89   0.451
1983      71    91   0.438
1986      70    90   0.438
1994      49    64   0.434
1997      68    94   0.420
1999      67    95   0.414
2000      65    97   0.401
2002      67    95   0.414

 

Now, if you would have said.... "...this is the worst CUBS team in decades, the 1880's & the 1930's specifically ...", then you'd be right on the mark !!

ok, you are right the worst team in decades is a little harsh but when you take into account that in the late 90's we had a 25 mil payroll with sammy getting 20 and we all knew we were awful(98 was done with mirrors)...this year is far more negative. also factor in that we were 2 moves away from being the hands down favorite in the nl and haven't done a thing since...adds to it

and finally add in the fact that we started very well and have dropped quickly! 2-8 over ten. right now there is a better chance we play like that than .460 ball the rest of the way. that would leave us at 41-141 or a .290(a little exaggeration) but they certainly are no where near looking like a team that will win 75 games. they also play some very bad baseball...many of those cubs teams were poor in talent but these guys play the game poorly!

[hardcorecubfan]

Who is with me?

 

Who else watches games half hoping that the Cubs don't score because you know they aren't anywhere close to a respectable team, so you might as well cheer for them to not score so you can calculate ridiculous futility statistics.

 

Who else just doesn't care anymore?

 

I am now hoping that if they lose it is 13-12 so I can at least say they have an offense, just wait until wood and Prior. I cna't even do that

[Master Shake]

When the Cubs come on TV, I no longer associate Van Halen's "Jump" with the team. I now associate Phil Colin's song "I don't care anymore"

[BigSlick]

Who is with me?

 

Who else watches games half hoping that the Cubs don't score because you know they aren't anywhere close to a respectable team, so you might as well cheer for them to not score so you can calculate ridiculous futility statistics.

 

Who else just doesn't care anymore?

 

I'm basically just watching my fantasy players, and I have a faint interest in the A's. (Moneyball...oh god I wish someone would buy Hendry or Baker that book)

[Irrelevant Dude]

When the Cubs come on TV, I no longer associate Van Halen's "Jump" with the team. I now associate Phil Colin's song "I don't care anymore"

And they don't even take the field to "Jump" anymore. I haven't been to a game yet this year, but it's not going to be the same when they run out to "Hit me baby one more time" or whatever the song of the month happens to be. :roll:

[Soul]

When the Cubs come on TV, I no longer associate Van Halen's "Jump" with the team. I now associate Phil Colin's song "I don't care anymore"

And they don't even take the field to "Jump" anymore. I haven't been to a game yet this year, but it's not going to be the same when they run out to "Hit me baby one more time" or whatever the song of the month happens to be. :roll:

 

They had to stop using Jump because it increased the suicide rate too much after watching the team. One of those unintended side effects.

[CubinNY]

I will never have apathy toward the Cubs.

 

My love for them is like a burning ring of fire.

 

Hate is not the opposite of love, it is apathy. Hate is merely love that is unrequited.

[VicCub]

Hey, at least Sean Marshall has emerged. There have been plenty of entire summers where nothing that good happened.

 

Hendry and Co may not be spending the dough right, but we do have the second highest payroll in the NL. Our org. has a rabid fan base and a lot of dough. Sustained success will happen for us someday soon. Until then, it is back to dwelling on the small positives like Marshall, Murton, and Cedeno.

 

The day I stop caring about the Cubs is the day I die.

[sethuel1]

 

My love for them is like a burning ring of fire.

 

Like hemorrhoids, eh?

[badger1679666666]

Sustained success will happen for us someday soon. .

 

Ahh the delusional Cub mantra. I know it well and it's a lie unless some major organizational changes are made with this team from scouting, to secondary coaching, to managing to GM'ing.

[NorthsideAvenger]

All I know is I am no longer mad at the club, I am kinda numb towards the Cubs.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Thank God for Pittsburgh

[Soul]

All I know is I am no longer mad at the club, I am kinda numb towards the Cubs.

 

That's apathy.

 

I'm not there yet. I'm still too busy being angry. :)

[sethuel1]

All I know is I am no longer mad at the club, I am kinda numb towards the Cubs.

 

That's apathy.

 

I'm not there yet. I'm still too busy being angry. :)

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