do the cardinals ever lose?

[Magnetic Curses]

everytime i see the highlights, they're always winning. this team could lose everyone, bring up the AA team, and win 100 games. there's some sort of anti-curse on these guys. they simply don't lose, they have three hitters, three.

 

how much money would the cubs need to spend to catch them? 300 mil?

[E.J.]

They're not going to start losing until teams stop pitching to Albert. He's pretty much their team right now.

[snoodmonger]

they lose when they play us.

[jjgman21]

the vast difference between the Cubs and Cards records the past two years is largely attributed to the Reds, Brewers, and Pirates tendency to roll over and die against the Cards and play their best ball against the Cubs.

[wolf stansson]

They have good teams maybe?

 

 

 

 

Nah forget it...I'll just let you guys have this thread.

[imb]

They have good teams maybe?

 

 

 

 

Nah forget it...I'll just let you guys have this thread.

 

shut up you

[Transmogrified Tiger]

it's those blasted holograms

[Banedon]

it's those blasted holograms

 

http://www.quantumleap-alsplace.com/img/imagingchamber/al/qlhologram.jpg

 

Bad picture....it's Al from Quantum Leap...loses a little something when I have to explain it though... :P

[K-Town]

Actually, the Cards only lose when it counts (playoffs, and games against the Cubs).

 

Seriously, when you have the 2nd best pitchings staff in all of baseball, and you have Albert Pujols, you're going to win some games. Also, the competition has been pretty weak so far. They'll lose plenty of games......... trust me. There's no way they'll run away with the division this year............ I just don't see it.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Sidney Ponson

[otis89]

It helps when the Cardinals have only played 2 teams above .500, the Cubs and the Reds. They're 2-4 against the Cubs and 2-1 against the Reds.

[gflore34]

Beyond Pujols and having out their mind offensive seasons the Cardinals bullpen has been the key to success. Their bullpen, as presented constructed, is far weaker than 2004 and 2005 - its going to cost them plenty of games. When you're trotting the likes of Looper, Rincon and Flores out there, you're going to have problems, even if you're the Cardinals.

[JDE]

They're stinking tonight. We're forced to watch Marquis serve pitches up in the zone.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

it's those blasted holograms

 

Exactly. Blast you and your holograms, TLR!

[wolf stansson]

Looper, Rincon and Flores.

Looper and Flores have been good so far. They both have the talent to perform well.

[Diffusion]

The Cardinals pitching won't hold up.

 

Albert Pujols probably will.

[CubmanPi]

The Cardinals pitching won't hold up.

 

Albert Pujols probably will.

 

They should sit him against the Dodgers though, just in case.

[wolf stansson]

The Cardinals pitching won't hold up.

 

Albert Pujols probably will.

 

So Albert is going to hit more than 100 homeruns, and a pitching staff that finished second then first respectively in the past two seasons won't?

 

We shall see.

[indifferent]

The Cardinals pitching won't hold up.

 

Albert Pujols probably will.

 

So Albert is going to hit more than 100 homeruns, and a pitching staff that finished second then first respectively in the past two seasons won't?

 

We shall see.

 

:lol:, you are quite the diplomat, wolf. I am still waiting for the other shoe to drop on our pitching going on three years later.

[Andy]

The Cardinals pitching won't hold up.

 

Albert Pujols probably will.

 

So Albert is going to hit more than 100 homeruns, and a pitching staff that finished second then first respectively in the past two seasons won't?

 

We shall see.

 

:lol:, you are quite the diplomat, wolf. I am still waiting for the other shoe to drop on our pitching going on three years later.

Believe me - you are far from the only one on this board waiting for that.

[indifferent]

The Cardinals pitching won't hold up.

 

Albert Pujols probably will.

 

So Albert is going to hit more than 100 homeruns, and a pitching staff that finished second then first respectively in the past two seasons won't?

 

We shall see.

 

:lol:, you are quite the diplomat, wolf. I am still waiting for the other shoe to drop on our pitching going on three years later.

Believe me - you are far from the only one on this board waiting for that.

 

The difference is, my comment was made in jest.

[Diffusion]

The Cardinals pitching won't hold up.

 

Albert Pujols probably will.

 

So Albert is going to hit more than 100 homeruns, and a pitching staff that finished second then first respectively in the past two seasons won't?

 

We shall see.

 

Do you want me to run through exactly who's on your pitching staff besides Carpenter and Mulder?

 

I meant that Pujols would hold up as by far the best hitter in the game, someone capable of putting four or five members of the rest of your sorry lineup on his shoulders and just carrying them.

[jjgman21]

I recently posted in the baseball discussion thread about the schedules and how much more difficult the Cubs is than the Cards. Twins/Sox instead of 6 against the Royals. extra games vs. difficult NL teams instead of extra games vs. Colorado and the Nats.

 

late last season I posted how it seems the Cardinals always seem to miss the best pitching of various teams and have lot's of games vs. the bottom of rotations. of course it was scoffed at, and I never bothered to look to see if that were the case. let's take a look at what's been happening early on and see who the Cards are facing in the various series, fully conceding that the early numbers are reflective of the fact that they faced the Cardinals:

 

Pilly - first series of the year. only makes sense that they see the Phils top 3.

 

Cubs - granted, they've had to face the red hot Maddux twice. they also managed to have 6 games against the Cubs early on before either Wood or Prior were even expected back, much less actually back. Z owns them, and they only have to face him once. other than that, they get Rusch, Williams, and Marshall's ML debut.

 

Milwaukee - they miss the Brewers best pitcher, Capuano.

 

Cincy - the Reds worst starter by far this year is Dave Williams. Cards faced him, Cubs had two series agains the Reds, and never got to face him. instead the Cubs get the en fuego Aroyo twice (granted the Cards did too, and shelled him)

 

Pitt - bad pitching all around, but the two best have been Duke and Snell. the worst have been Santos and Perez. two series against the Bucs, 1 game against the best two, four against the worst two.

 

DC - miss Patterson, get another kid making his ML debut, the up-until-yesterday terrible Livan and the 10.80 ERA Zach Day.

 

 

 

then you got their typical:

 

Ponson, 3-0, 3.13

Looper, 1.54

Luna, .869

Spiezio, .962

JRod, .953

 

 

mix in about 30 seeing-eye and texas-league hits by Eckstein, a few corner calls here and there, a few bad calls going their way at just the right time on bang-bang plays, and what do you get?

 

 

 

don't get me wrong, the have had some good teams, but they are the luckiest team in baseball year after year after year. sometimes, between the players they field and the gold nugget buried in the nether regions, it's not 'will they ever lose a game' it's 'how do they ever lose a game.'

[treebird]

you forgot:

 

aaron miles 280/393/400

[Criminal5]

Yeah, that's it, we've just been really lucky since 2000. :roll: