Jacque Jones

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

The Jacque-O-Meter now stands at:

 

.231/.283

 

after going 3 for 4 and being a triple short of the cycle. Thats quite a way to add 43 pts to your batting average in 1 game.

 

He's almost up to what he hit last season.

[cjbucks]

Jacque racques!!

 

Just kidding :wink:

[RyCubsFan]

Nice to see Jones with a good day. If I had to choose only one of Pierre and Jones to play well, I would choose Jones. 1) He's signed for 3 years, as opposed to one for Pierre. But, 2) His power makes him a more dangerous hitter. Having him swing the bat well in the middle of the lineup could be very important to the cubs' success this year.

[soccer10k]

Just to clarify:

 

Cub fan goes to game and cheers: "Dumb; only there for bleachers, Budweisers..."

 

Cub fan goes to game and boos: "Dumb; only there for bleachers, Budweisers..."

All Twins fans: "There through thick and thin"

 

The Twins have fans? Everytime I see one of their games there is no one in the stands.

 

My Grandpa usually tries to catch a Twins game when the Yankees are in town. He'll usually go to a game or two every year. So they do have some fans. It's just the dome is horrible.

[RynoRules]

Lets just hope Jacque continues his apparent upswing. I think we can all agree that we be a good thing.

[oldcubsfan]

Jacque is hitting .209/.271/.442

He's got 12 K's and 3 BB's.

 

All those numbers mean is that he is due for a hot streak to get back to career norms. The team has been winning despite his struggles, so hopefully they continue winning when he comes around. Same canbe said for Aramis Ramirez.

Even if his numbers were much, much worse than what you could expect for him, there's no reason to think he'll get a hot streak to average it out. Averages do not work that way.

 

Yes, they do. That is exactly why they are called averages.

[Careless]

Jacque is hitting .209/.271/.442

He's got 12 K's and 3 BB's.

 

All those numbers mean is that he is due for a hot streak to get back to career norms. The team has been winning despite his struggles, so hopefully they continue winning when he comes around. Same canbe said for Aramis Ramirez.

Even if his numbers were much, much worse than what you could expect for him, there's no reason to think he'll get a hot streak to average it out. Averages do not work that way.

 

Yes, they do. That is exactly why they are called averages.

I wonder, do you just realize what you said? You just said that if you flipped a coin 10 times and it came up heads 10 times in a row, it would come up tails the next 10 times.

[RynoRules]

Jacque is hitting .209/.271/.442

He's got 12 K's and 3 BB's.

 

All those numbers mean is that he is due for a hot streak to get back to career norms. The team has been winning despite his struggles, so hopefully they continue winning when he comes around. Same canbe said for Aramis Ramirez.

Even if his numbers were much, much worse than what you could expect for him, there's no reason to think he'll get a hot streak to average it out. Averages do not work that way.

 

Yes, they do. That is exactly why they are called averages.

I wonder, do you just realize what you said? You just said that if you flipped a coin 10 times and it came up heads 10 times in a row, it would come up tails the next 10 times.

 

I don't think that is what he meant. Using your example, oldcubsfan would say that if you flipped a coin ten times and it came up heads 6 times out of ten, then on avg. its more likely to come up heads than tails.

 

Or something.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Independent trials. The probability of an event occuring doesn't increase if the opposite event occurs numerous times.

[Careless]

Jacque is hitting .209/.271/.442

He's got 12 K's and 3 BB's.

 

All those numbers mean is that he is due for a hot streak to get back to career norms. The team has been winning despite his struggles, so hopefully they continue winning when he comes around. Same canbe said for Aramis Ramirez.

Even if his numbers were much, much worse than what you could expect for him, there's no reason to think he'll get a hot streak to average it out. Averages do not work that way.

 

Yes, they do. That is exactly why they are called averages.

I wonder, do you just realize what you said? You just said that if you flipped a coin 10 times and it came up heads 10 times in a row, it would come up tails the next 10 times.

 

I don't think that is what he meant. Using your example, oldcubsfan would say that if you flipped a coin ten times and it came up heads 6 times out of ten, then on avg. its more likely to come up heads than tails.

 

Or something.

then he would be arguing that averages mean jones is more likely to play below his previous numbers and continue his slump. Definitely not what ocf was saying.

[RynoRules]

OK, in any case, I think what ocf was saying was that Jones' hot streak will cause him to come back to his career avgs. , at which point it will end.

[Careless]

OK, in any case, I think what ocf was saying was that Jones' hot streak will cause him to come back to his career avgs. , at which point it will end.

Yes, I'm fairly confident that's what he's saying, and that means he doesn't understand averages

[oldcubsfan]

OK, in any case, I think what ocf was saying was that Jones' hot streak will cause him to come back to his career avgs. , at which point it will end.

Yes, I'm fairly confident that's what he's saying, and that means he doesn't understand averages

I would say that taking such a small sample size and stating that will continue for a whole season doesn't understanding averages.

[Careless]

OK, in any case, I think what ocf was saying was that Jones' hot streak will cause him to come back to his career avgs. , at which point it will end.

Yes, I'm fairly confident that's what he's saying, and that means he doesn't understand averages

I would say that taking such a small sample size and stating that will continue for a whole season doesn't understanding averages.

Now that, on the other hand, is something that no one has argued. (well, it was not being argued in the part of the thread I replied to. I'm sure someone, somewhere, has done so.)

[CubfaninCA]

It's way too early to gleefully write off Jones.

 

His ops is right there with the immortal Brian Giles, and Milton Bradley btw...

[abuck1220]

It's way too early to gleefully write off Jones.

 

His ops is right there with the immortal Brian Giles, and Milton Bradley btw...

 

except that both of those guys have shown the ability to be at least moderately productive in the past couple of years.

[scs_paradise]

OK, in any case, I think what ocf was saying was that Jones' hot streak will cause him to come back to his career avgs. , at which point it will end.

Yes, I'm fairly confident that's what he's saying, and that means he doesn't understand averages

I would say that taking such a small sample size and stating that will continue for a whole season doesn't understanding averages.

Now that, on the other hand, is something that no one has argued. (well, it was not being argued in the part of the thread I replied to. I'm sure someone, somewhere, has done so.)

 

streaks do not average out, they just fade into larger sample sizes

[Diffusion]

Jacque is hitting .209/.271/.442

He's got 12 K's and 3 BB's.

 

All those numbers mean is that he is due for a hot streak to get back to career norms. The team has been winning despite his struggles, so hopefully they continue winning when he comes around. Same canbe said for Aramis Ramirez.

Even if his numbers were much, much worse than what you could expect for him, there's no reason to think he'll get a hot streak to average it out. Averages do not work that way.

 

Yes, they do. That is exactly why they are called averages.

I wonder, do you just realize what you said? You just said that if you flipped a coin 10 times and it came up heads 10 times in a row, it would come up tails the next 10 times.

 

A better way of putting it would be...

 

You flip a coin 10 times and it comes up heads 10 times. You flip it another 90 times and you ought to end up nearer 50/50.

[RynoRules]

Jacque is hitting .209/.271/.442

He's got 12 K's and 3 BB's.

 

All those numbers mean is that he is due for a hot streak to get back to career norms. The team has been winning despite his struggles, so hopefully they continue winning when he comes around. Same canbe said for Aramis Ramirez.

Even if his numbers were much, much worse than what you could expect for him, there's no reason to think he'll get a hot streak to average it out. Averages do not work that way.

 

Yes, they do. That is exactly why they are called averages.

I wonder, do you just realize what you said? You just said that if you flipped a coin 10 times and it came up heads 10 times in a row, it would come up tails the next 10 times.

 

A better way of putting it would be...

 

You flip a coin 10 times and it comes up heads 10 times. You flip it another 90 times and you ought to end up nearer 50/50.

 

That makes much more sense. In other words, things tend to "even out".

[Careless]

Jacque is hitting .209/.271/.442

He's got 12 K's and 3 BB's.

 

All those numbers mean is that he is due for a hot streak to get back to career norms. The team has been winning despite his struggles, so hopefully they continue winning when he comes around. Same canbe said for Aramis Ramirez.

Even if his numbers were much, much worse than what you could expect for him, there's no reason to think he'll get a hot streak to average it out. Averages do not work that way.

 

Yes, they do. That is exactly why they are called averages.

I wonder, do you just realize what you said? You just said that if you flipped a coin 10 times and it came up heads 10 times in a row, it would come up tails the next 10 times.

 

A better way of putting it would be...

 

You flip a coin 10 times and it comes up heads 10 times. You flip it another 90 times and you ought to end up nearer 50/50.

But given that you've already got 10 heads, you're likely to wind up around 55/45

[treebird]

Jacque is hitting .209/.271/.442

He's got 12 K's and 3 BB's.

 

All those numbers mean is that he is due for a hot streak to get back to career norms. The team has been winning despite his struggles, so hopefully they continue winning when he comes around. Same canbe said for Aramis Ramirez.

Even if his numbers were much, much worse than what you could expect for him, there's no reason to think he'll get a hot streak to average it out. Averages do not work that way.

 

Yes, they do. That is exactly why they are called averages.

I wonder, do you just realize what you said? You just said that if you flipped a coin 10 times and it came up heads 10 times in a row, it would come up tails the next 10 times.

 

A better way of putting it would be...

 

You flip a coin 10 times and it comes up heads 10 times. You flip it another 90 times and you ought to end up nearer 50/50.

But given that you've already got 10 heads, you're likely to wind up around 55/45

 

which is a lot nearer to 50/50

[Careless]

:farao:

[sethuel1]

Boy, casinos must absolutely love some of you guys.

[srbin84]

People want to bail on a guy for slumping early in the season....they lose 5 bucks and they probably run out of the casino. Not to mention the odds/stats disadvantages.

[Sosa21MVP]

People want to bail on a guy for slumping early in the season....they lose 5 bucks and they probably run out of the casino. Not to mention the odds/stats disadvantages.

 

Nah, I think obviously the best approach is to boo and rip a player up and down. That has been proven effective hasn't it??? Or maybe not.