standings

[Shilzzz]

<3 it when the yankees are in last.

 

even better when the cubs are in first.

[Omar]

  Team                 W  L  GB   PCT.
 Chicago Cubs         7  4  0.0  .636
 Houston Astros       7  4  0.0  .636
 Cincinnati Reds      7  4  0.5  .583
 Milwaukee Brewers    7  4  0.5  .583
 St. Louis Cardinals  7  5  0.5  ..538
 Pittsburgh Pirates   4  10  4.5 .286

 

Not such a enormous deficit, but I'll take it.

Edited April 17, 2006 by Omar

[Warpticon]

  Team                 W  L  GB   PCT.
 Chicago Cubs         7  4  0.0  .636
 Houston Astros       7  4  0.0  .636
 Cincinnati Reds      7  4  0.5  .583
 Milwaukee Brewers    7  4  0.5  .583
 St. Louis Cardinals  7  5  0.5  .583
 Pittsburgh Pirates   4  10  4.5 .286

 

Not such a enormous deficit, but I'll take it.

 

Yeah, something's not right about those winning percentages there.

[Omar]

  Team                 W  L  GB   PCT.
 Chicago Cubs         7  4  0.0  .636
 Houston Astros       7  4  0.0  .636
 Cincinnati Reds      7  4  0.5  .583
 Milwaukee Brewers    7  4  0.5  .583
 St. Louis Cardinals  7  5  0.5  .538
 Pittsburgh Pirates   4  10  4.5 .286

 

Not such a enormous deficit, but I'll take it.

 

Yeah, something's not right about those winning percentages there.

 

Smarterchild had the best aligned stats so I could code them.

[wolf stansson]

  Team                 W  L  GB   PCT.
 Chicago Cubs         7  4  0.0  .636
 Houston Astros       7  4  0.0  .636
 Cincinnati Reds      7  4  0.5  .583
 Milwaukee Brewers    7  4  0.5  .583
 St. Louis Cardinals  7  5  0.5  .538
 Pittsburgh Pirates   4  10  4.5 .286

 

Not such a enormous deficit, but I'll take it.

 

Yeah, something's not right about those winning percentages there.

 

Smarterchild had the best aligned stats so I could code them.

4 teams can't be 7-4 and two of them be tied for second with a 7-5 team.

[Sarcastic]

Wolf, teams have played outside the division, that's why it seems off.

[wolf stansson]

Wolf, teams have played outside the division, that's why it seems off.

I would say it seems off because the Cardinals aren't on top, but your thing works too.

[David]

Wolf, teams have played outside the division, that's why it seems off.

 

No, Wolf is right.

 

Two teams that are 7-4 aren't tied with a 7-5 team.

 

Also, this probably happened since the original post was made, but Houston is 8-4.

 

The winning percentages are also off.

 

Let's just make this easier.. http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/standings/index.jsp

[soccer10k]

  Team                 W  L   GB    PCT.
 Houston Astros       8  4   0.0  .667
 Chicago Cubs         7  4   0.5  .636
 Cincinnati Reds      7  5   1.0  .583
 Milwaukee Brewers    7  5   1.0  .583
 St. Louis Cardinals  7  5   1.0  .583
 Pittsburgh Pirates   4  10  5.0  .286

 

Not such a enormous deficit, but I'll take it.

 

Fixed.

Edited April 17, 2006 by soccer10k

[Bote McBoteface]

I'm pretty sure Pittsburgh is already mathematically eliminated. Is it time to make some call ups from our AAAA team?

[Omar]

I'm pretty sure Pittsburgh is already mathematically eliminated. Is it time to make some call ups from our AAAA team?

 

I wouldnt mind Duke and Bay for Perez and Bynum :lol:

[Shilzzz]

I'm pretty sure Pittsburgh is already mathematically eliminated. Is it time to make some call ups from our AAAA team?

 

I wouldnt mind Duke and Bay for Perez and Bynum :lol:

 

sorry, we would need more for neifi. who will save the club without him when cedeno stays young later in the season?

[elconq05]

  Team                 W  L   GB    PCT.
 Houston Astros       8  4   0.0  .667
 Chicago Cubs         7  4   0.5  .636
 Cincinnati Reds      7  5   1.0  .583
 Milwaukee Brewers    7  5   1.0  .583
 St. Louis Cardinals  7  5   1.0  .583
 Pittsburgh Pirates   4  10  5.0  .286

 

Not such a enormous deficit, but I'll take it.

 

Fixed.

 

Not quite.

The Cardinals are technically in 3rd place. They own the season series (so far) between both Cincinnati and Milwaukee.

[SouthSideRyan]

Well technically the Cards, Cincy, and Milwaukee are all in 3rd place as tiebreakers only come into play when determining ranking for the playoffs or for wild card playoff home field advantage or bye scenarios.

[Rob]

Well technically the Cards, Cincy, and Milwaukee are all in 3rd place as tiebreakers only come into play when determining ranking for the playoffs or for wild card playoff home field advantage or bye scenarios.

 

Yeah, but that's essentially what the standings are intended for.

[SouthSideRyan]

Well technically the Cards, Cincy, and Milwaukee are all in 3rd place as tiebreakers only come into play when determining ranking for the playoffs or for wild card playoff home field advantage or bye scenarios.

 

Yeah, but that's essentially what the standings are intended for.

 

The standings are to decide who goes to the playoffs. Since neither a playoff seeding tiebreak or wild card playoff tiebreaker is necessary, the Cards Cincy, and Milwaukee are all in 3rd place.

 

Baseballreference backs this up listing the Cards as 2nd place in NL Central in '01 despite being tied with the Stros because their placing mattered for playoff seeding. In '05, the Mets and Marlins are both listed as 3rd place in the NL East as their ranking didn't matter for seeding or wild card playoffs.

[Rob]

Oh, I see what you're saying now.

 

And while that is technically true, it's still rather pointless not to adjust the standings to help make the hypothetical situations easier to spot should a shift in the standings occur.

 

But then again, seeing the Cards near the bottom of the pack is kinda fun. :D

[elconq05]

Well technically the Cards, Cincy, and Milwaukee are all in 3rd place as tiebreakers only come into play when determining ranking for the playoffs or for wild card playoff home field advantage or bye scenarios.

 

If you are determining positioning for discussion purposes, you'd use the tiebreaks.

 

And besides, anytime the standings are printed, they should always include the tiebreaks. And as I check numerous sites...they all have them that way....the Cardinals in 3rd.

 

 

 

 

edited: Nevemind...some sites have the Cards listed 3rd, some have them near the bottom. There doesn't seem to be any consistency.

[CubmanPi]

With the calender still stuck on mid-April, the tiebreakers aren't the most meaningful yet, but something that is striking me so far about our division's standings is that, as of today, the NLC has 5 teams within 1 game of first place, all of which are at least 2 games over .500. Composite division record is 7 games over .500, which ties our division (6 teams) with the AL East (two teams tied for last at .500) for the best division record. Can we expect to see all but the Pirates hang around and be competitive all year, or are one or three of the top five off to a misleading start? Which one(s) will fall away, and when?

 

What about the AL east - other than the DRays, will they all remain competitive in a 4-way division race, or do they have flukes as well? How long would you laugh if the Yankees finished the year tied for last with the Blue Jays, BEHIND the DRays?

[soccer10k]

With the calender still stuck on mid-April, the tiebreakers aren't the most meaningful yet, but something that is striking me so far about our division's standings is that, as of today, the NLC has 5 teams within 1 game of first place, all of which are at least 2 games over .500. Composite division record is 7 games over .500, which ties our division (6 teams) with the AL East (two teams tied for last at .500) for the best division record. Can we expect to see all but the Pirates hang around and be competitive all year, or are one or three of the top five off to a misleading start? Which one(s) will fall away, and when?

 

What about the AL east - other than the DRays, will they all remain competitive in a 4-way division race, or do they have flukes as well? How long would you laugh if the Yankees finished the year tied for last with the Blue Jays, BEHIND the DRays?

 

The Reds will drop. They may hang around until June or July, but they'll still finish in 5th or 6th place. The Reds have no pitching. I would expect the other 4 to all hang around though.

[soccer10k]

Oh, I see what you're saying now.

 

And while that is technically true, it's still rather pointless not to adjust the standings to help make the hypothetical situations easier to spot should a shift in the standings occur.

 

But then again, seeing the Cards near the bottom of the pack is kinda fun. :D

 

That's why I did it. I enjoy seeing the Cards at the bottom. I'm sure their fans would do the same with the Cubs when posting standings.

 

Also, I've seen some sites put teams in alphabetical order if they are tied in the standings.

[Scott G. F.]

This start indicates what a dog fight this division will be. The only hope I have is the Cubs regaining their brass in Prior and Wood. I have no expectations from Miller.

The Reds lost Griffey to the DL already.

If the Cards expect Poo-holes to hit games winners all season then they'll be in for a long year. The Cards will have a problem scoring when he grows cold. The pen is going to be a major weakness and begin to tear apart the starters. This isn't a bad thing. The Cards are not balanced and will begin to sputter.

Milwaukee, I hope, will not have the confidence to be a winner. If this team begins believing in itself the entire division is in trouble. The pitchers will regress back to the mean along with some of the younger players. But watch out for these guys. This team is more balanced and but I'm not sure they have the horses with enough experience to go the distance.

The Pirates, well looks like another bad year from the beginning. They are really stuck on neutral. Looks like a back office cleaning might be in order soon.

Houston, well I'm surprised with their start and expect them to regress very quickly to the bottom. But they have pride and heart. They will wear down and have major offensive problems.

 

The Cubs seem to have a nice blend of offense and pretty good D so far. The starting pitching is the weakness, but the pen (sans) Ohman and Wuertz seem to close the door more often. Dempster has been incredible. Not everything is clicking for the Cubs but they'll be around for the season barring anything major and will look to be even better by June with Prior and Woody coming back with any help from Wade a bonus.

 

 

Put your helmut on Cub fans and fill the cooler with Old Style this years race is gonna be good!

[K-Town]

The race is even closer than it appears at first glance. Look at the run differentials:

 

Houston: +15

Chicago: +15

St. Louis: +15

 

 

There are alot of directions that the race could go. The Cards have hung in there, even with the bullpen suffering a major melt-down. That will change, in my opinion. The Cubs have hung in there without Prior & Wood, but their replacements are 2-2, so maybe that hasn't been as much of a factor as it could be.

 

Should be fun!