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Wow...I mean just wow....this guy is stupid (but I think we've already declared that about this guy numerous times on this board, possibly the dumbest sports writer in a national media outlet).

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/powerRankings

 

On a side note, does anyone else think this "AL is way better than the NL" stuff that is purveying in the sports media is stupid and unfounded, too? Personally, I'm tired of seeing it and hearing of it.

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Wow...I mean just wow....this guy is stupid (but I think we've already declared that about this guy numerous times on this board, possibly the dumbest sports writer in a national media outlet).

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/powerRankings

 

On a side note, does anyone else think this "AL is way better than the NL" stuff that is purveying in the sports media is stupid and unfounded, too? Personally, I'm tired of seeing it and hearing of it.

Rosenthal's right there with him. He picked the BJ's to win it all.

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No, I'm a firm believer that the AL is much better then the NL right now.

 

The AL has won the last like 4 AS Games (2 that "count), and the AL currently has an 8 game winning streak in the World Series, sweeping the NL's best the last 2 seasons.

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No, I'm a firm believer that the AL is much better then the NL right now.

 

The AL has won the last like 4 AS Games (2 that "count), and the AL currently has an 8 game winning streak in the World Series, sweeping the NL's best the last 2 seasons.

 

I'm with you as well, although I base it less on all-star games (I think it's a lot more than four in a row, though) and World Series appearances, and more on the overall quality of the teams. There are a lot of mediocre teams in the NL, and while the AL has its cupcakes, its middling- to upper-range teams are generally better than the NL's.

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i wouldn't put the tigers so high, but i don't know what's so terrible about his predictions. the cubs are a 90 loss team w/o wood and prior.
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i wouldn't put the tigers so high, but i don't know what's so terrible about his predictions. the cubs are a 90 loss team w/o wood and prior.

 

No, they're not. Not even close. We didn't have Wood and Prior for most of last year, and we didn't lose 90, and we're better this year.

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i wouldn't put the tigers so high, but i don't know what's so terrible about his predictions. the cubs are a 90 loss team w/o wood and prior.

 

Easily, if they are out for huge chunks of the season.

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why is he stupid?

 

If Detroit were in the NL, do you think they would make the playoffs? According to his rankings, they're ahead of all but 3 of the NL teams, which would possibly put them in the playoffs. He has the Blue Jays 13th and the Dodgers 14th. LA is nowhere near the BJs, there's no way to justify having them so close in the rankings. Mets ahead of the Angels? I suppose it's arguable, but I don't think it's debatable in my opinion. And he has the Cubs at 22nd...that's a bit harsh. I'm not so optimistic as to be unrealistic, I don't think we're going to finish ahead of the hated Cards unless they have alot go wrong. But we should be considered at least a solid .500 team, which should put us in the middle of the pack, not mired in the bottom 3rd.

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i wouldn't put the tigers so high, but i don't know what's so terrible about his predictions. the cubs are a 90 loss team w/o wood and prior.

 

No, they're not. Not even close. We didn't have Wood and Prior for most of last year, and we didn't lose 90, and we're better this year.

 

I agree. And the Cards are better than the Cubs IMO, but a #5 compared to #22 better? No freaking way. And the Tigers above the Indians? The Pirates at #29, under the Marlins and Rockies? What is this guy smoking?

 

In his predictions article, he says "the Cardinals don figure to be challenged this year." Wha? Not only will they be challenged, but by multiple teams, in all probability.

 

Dayn Perry = On crack

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dayn perry is a cardinal fan

 

and his predictions aren't that crazy at all. these are power rankings, which means rankings of the quality of each team right now. there's no reason not to think the cubs suck right now.

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i wouldn't put the tigers so high, but i don't know what's so terrible about his predictions. the cubs are a 90 loss team w/o wood and prior.

 

No, they're not. Not even close. We didn't have Wood and Prior for most of last year, and we didn't lose 90, and we're better this year.

 

I agree. And the Cards are better than the Cubs IMO, but a #5 compared to #22 better? No freaking way. And the Tigers above the Indians? The Pirates at #29, under the Marlins and Rockies? What is this guy smoking?

 

In his predictions article, he says "the Cardinals don figure to be challenged this year." Wha? Not only will they be challenged, but by multiple teams, in all probability.

 

Dayn Perry = On crack

 

I understand all that. But Prior pitched 166 innings last year, Woody 66. What if Prior only managed 70 and Wood 100 (for the sake of argument)? We also got decent performance from Williams---what if that doesn't hold? We now are depending on Cedeno and Murton, two unproven guys as starters. What if they both turn out to be too young to handle their roles?

 

Realistically, I'm looking at this team to finish around .500 considering the injuries to Wood & Prior. If they were to both miss nearly the entire season and our young guys don't come through, I could see upping that to 90 losses.

 

I agree, I don't see the Cards automatically as a #5 and I might put us a bit higher, but I can't say the guy is definitely on crack. Our season is looking very shaky right now---I can understand the skepticism.

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i wouldn't put the tigers so high, but i don't know what's so terrible about his predictions. the cubs are a 90 loss team w/o wood and prior.

 

No, they're not. Not even close. We didn't have Wood and Prior for most of last year, and we didn't lose 90, and we're better this year.

 

I agree. And the Cards are better than the Cubs IMO, but a #5 compared to #22 better? No freaking way. And the Tigers above the Indians? The Pirates at #29, under the Marlins and Rockies? What is this guy smoking?

 

In his predictions article, he says "the Cardinals don figure to be challenged this year." Wha? Not only will they be challenged, but by multiple teams, in all probability.

 

Dayn Perry = On crack

 

I understand all that. But Prior pitched 166 innings last year, Woody 66. What if Prior only managed 70 and Wood 100 (for the sake of argument)? We also got decent performance from Williams---what if that doesn't hold? We now are depending on Cedeno and Murton, two unproven guys as starters. What if they both turn out to be too young to handle their roles?

 

Realistically, I'm looking at this team to finish around .500 considering the injuries to Wood & Prior. If they were to both miss nearly the entire season and our young guys don't come through, I could see upping that to 90 losses.

 

I agree, I don't see the Cards automatically as a #5 and I might put us a bit higher, but I can't say the guy is definitely on crack. Our season is looking very shaky right now---I can understand the skepticism.

 

My diagnosis of Dayn's crack smoking goes beyond his assessment of the Cubs. And I think that even if Prior and Wood miss nearly all of the season, I think the mid-80's are as high as the loss total would go.

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i wouldn't put the tigers so high, but i don't know what's so terrible about his predictions. the cubs are a 90 loss team w/o wood and prior.

 

No, they're not. Not even close. We didn't have Wood and Prior for most of last year, and we didn't lose 90, and we're better this year.

 

I agree. And the Cards are better than the Cubs IMO, but a #5 compared to #22 better? No freaking way. And the Tigers above the Indians? The Pirates at #29, under the Marlins and Rockies? What is this guy smoking?

 

In his predictions article, he says "the Cardinals don figure to be challenged this year." Wha? Not only will they be challenged, but by multiple teams, in all probability.

 

Dayn Perry = On crack

 

I understand all that. But Prior pitched 166 innings last year, Woody 66. What if Prior only managed 70 and Wood 100 (for the sake of argument)? We also got decent performance from Williams---what if that doesn't hold? We now are depending on Cedeno and Murton, two unproven guys as starters. What if they both turn out to be too young to handle their roles?

 

Realistically, I'm looking at this team to finish around .500 considering the injuries to Wood & Prior. If they were to both miss nearly the entire season and our young guys don't come through, I could see upping that to 90 losses.

 

I agree, I don't see the Cards automatically as a #5 and I might put us a bit higher, but I can't say the guy is definitely on crack. Our season is looking very shaky right now---I can understand the skepticism.

 

So you think putting Detroit ahead of Cleveland is reasonable, or ahead of 13 of the NL teams?

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i wouldn't put the tigers so high, but i don't know what's so terrible about his predictions. the cubs are a 90 loss team w/o wood and prior.

 

No, they're not. Not even close. We didn't have Wood and Prior for most of last year, and we didn't lose 90, and we're better this year.

 

I agree. And the Cards are better than the Cubs IMO, but a #5 compared to #22 better? No freaking way. And the Tigers above the Indians? The Pirates at #29, under the Marlins and Rockies? What is this guy smoking?

 

In his predictions article, he says "the Cardinals don figure to be challenged this year." Wha? Not only will they be challenged, but by multiple teams, in all probability.

 

Dayn Perry = On crack

 

I understand all that. But Prior pitched 166 innings last year, Woody 66. What if Prior only managed 70 and Wood 100 (for the sake of argument)? We also got decent performance from Williams---what if that doesn't hold? We now are depending on Cedeno and Murton, two unproven guys as starters. What if they both turn out to be too young to handle their roles?

 

Realistically, I'm looking at this team to finish around .500 considering the injuries to Wood & Prior. If they were to both miss nearly the entire season and our young guys don't come through, I could see upping that to 90 losses.

 

I agree, I don't see the Cards automatically as a #5 and I might put us a bit higher, but I can't say the guy is definitely on crack. Our season is looking very shaky right now---I can understand the skepticism.

 

So you think putting Detroit ahead of Cleveland is reasonable, or ahead of 13 of the NL teams?

 

I was only talking about his assessment of our division. I don't think I would put Detroit ahead of Cleveland.

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i wouldn't put the tigers so high, but i don't know what's so terrible about his predictions. the cubs are a 90 loss team w/o wood and prior.

 

No, they're not. Not even close. We didn't have Wood and Prior for most of last year, and we didn't lose 90, and we're better this year.

 

you gotta be kidding me. they lost 83 last year when the two of them combined for 37 starts. you really think that if they started ZERO that the cubs wouldn't lose seven more games?

 

with this offense (and the fact that their replacements would be rusch/williams/hill/marshall) the cubs could lose 95-100 w/o those guys.

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Wow...I mean just wow....this guy is stupid (but I think we've already declared that about this guy numerous times on this board, possibly the dumbest sports writer in a national media outlet).

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/powerRankings

 

On a side note, does anyone else think this "AL is way better than the NL" stuff that is purveying in the sports media is stupid and unfounded, too? Personally, I'm tired of seeing it and hearing of it.

Rosenthal's right there with him. He picked the BJ's to win it all.

 

Rosenthal's article was in jest. I wish I could say the same for Perry's.

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