LH power bat options for RF?

[XZero771679666304]

I can't see Walker going to either TB or Wash. if he was to be included in acq'g Wilkerson/Huff.

 

Washington has Vidro as oft-injured as he has been and TB has Cantu.

 

Nor would he go to Philly, I suppose. I read in the Sun-Times that Mench isn't a target and the Cubs have decided to get a LH bat in the OF, and I can't think of anyone on the Rangers squad who fits the bill.

 

Perhaps Walker to the Mets for Floyd?

Edited December 4, 2005 by XZero77

[TrueBlueCubFan]

I can't see Walker going to either TB or Wash. if he was to be included in acq'g Wilkerson/Huff.

 

Washington has Vidro as oft-injured as he has been and TB has Cantu.

 

I actually see JH staying put with the MI the way it is: a 4 man platoon?

Cedeno @ SS, Hairston @ 2nd v.s. Lefties

&

Neifi @ SS, Walker @ 2nd v.s righties

 

Lugo to the Braves seems more likely & Huff to the Cubs.

[UK1679666180]

At this stage, there's a chance that LA will non-tender Bradley and it appears that the Cubs might do likewise w/Patterson if they can get a CF. The Phillies aren't going to trade Michaels while they're taking offers for Abreu as try to improve on their biggest need, a #1 starter. Pierre comes into the mix as the Yankees and Cubs now look to him even more. The Yankees will likely wait till Florida lowers their demand for Pierre, which will complicated by the Cubs increased interest in Pierre.

 

Personally, I'd wait till around 12/20 when the non-tendered list comes out to see what LA will do with Bradley, see what state the Marlins are in as far as their purge, and if the Philles will be able to get what they want for Abreu and if they don't, pursue Michaels.

[UK1679666180]

I can't see Walker going to either TB or Wash. if he was to be included in acq'g Wilkerson/Huff.

 

Washington has Vidro as oft-injured as he has been and TB has Cantu.

 

Nor would he go to Philly, I suppose. I read in the Sun-Times that Mench isn't a target and the Cubs have decided to get a LH bat in the OF, and I can't think of anyone on the Rangers squad who fits the bill.

 

Perhaps Walker to the Mets for Floyd?

 

I think that would be worth exploring, I think you'd have to have a quality 4th OF'er given Floyd's injury history. I'm not sure how eager they'd be willing to give floyd up now that they unloaded Cameron, depending on how they feel about Nady.

[XZero771679666304]

At this stage, there's a chance that LA will non-tender Bradley and it appears that the Cubs might do likewise w/Patterson if they can get a CF. The Phillies aren't going to trade Michaels while they're taking offers for Abreu as try to improve on their biggest need, a #1 starter. Pierre comes into the mix as the Yankees and Cubs now look to him even more. The Yankees will likely wait till Florida lowers their demand for Pierre, which will complicated by the Cubs increased interest in Pierre.

 

Personally, I'd wait till around 12/20 when the non-tendered list comes out to see what LA will do with Bradley, see what state the Marlins are in as far as their purge, and if the Philles will be able to get what they want for Abreu and if they don't, pursue Michaels.

 

I really doubt Pierre will still be a Marlin after the next few days.

 

I wonder if Hendry would trade Murton and have an entirely new OF? I like Murton, but if we land one of Huff/Dunn/Pierre, Hendry is going to want an excellent defender to mitigate all that bad defense.

[UK1679666180]

I can't see Walker going to either TB or Wash. if he was to be included in acq'g Wilkerson/Huff.

 

Washington has Vidro as oft-injured as he has been and TB has Cantu.

 

I actually see JH staying put with the MI the way it is: a 4 man platoon?

Cedeno @ SS, Hairston @ 2nd v.s. Lefties

&

Neifi @ SS, Walker @ 2nd v.s righties

 

Lugo to the Braves seems more likely & Huff to the Cubs.

 

I wouldn't mind it, I wouldn't call it a platoon as far as Neifi and Cedeno. If it's a straight R/L platoon, Cedeno would sit way too often and Neifi is a better hitter from the R side.

 

But, a R/L platoon with Hairston/Walker is fine by me. Hairston has the ability to play several positions and can be productive as a util. type/occasional starter. It wouldn't be by the books, but if Walker needed a day off and the Cubs were facing a LH'er, I'd have no problem with hairston starting at 2B.

[XZero771679666304]

I can't see Walker going to either TB or Wash. if he was to be included in acq'g Wilkerson/Huff.

 

Washington has Vidro as oft-injured as he has been and TB has Cantu.

 

Nor would he go to Philly, I suppose. I read in the Sun-Times that Mench isn't a target and the Cubs have decided to get a LH bat in the OF, and I can't think of anyone on the Rangers squad who fits the bill.

 

Perhaps Walker to the Mets for Floyd?

 

I think that would be worth exploring, I think you'd have to have a quality 4th OF'er given Floyd's injury history. I'm not sure how eager they'd be willing to give floyd up now that they unloaded Cameron, depending on how they feel about Nady.

 

It could be clearing the way for Manny. Then Diaz could get his shot in a Manny/Beltran/Diaz outfield.

 

A lineup of Reyes/Walker/Beltran/Manny/Delgado/Wright/Diaz/Molina or LoDuca would be nothing to scoff at, and less expensive sans Floyd.

[BigbadB]

Getting back to Huff, Tampa might have our answers at all 3 positions of need.

 

SS -Lugo: Puts up numbers nearly identical to Furcal

RF- Huff: Coming off a down year, but a very good middle of the order, left handed bat in all of his previous seasons

CF- Gathright: He's on the market, which leads one to believe Baldelli will be ready on opening day. I haven't heard any comparisons on Gathright, but I liken him to Kenny Lofton.

 

Tampa can fill every one of those holes internally and cheaply. What they would want in return would likely be pitching. After Kazmir, they have very little. They aren't going to get anyone via free agency, unless no other team wants them.

 

It would cost a lot for those three guys. And I might try to get Bradley before making this deal. If Bradley is going nowhere, what might it take to land these 3 guys?

 

Jerome Williams, Rich Hill, Sean Marshall and Brandon Sing? Huff and Lugo aren't cheap. Between those two, we'd be taking on 10m. Would that lower the amount that Tampa would want in return if we relieved them of that salary?

[USSoccer]

Getting back to Huff, Tampa might have our answers at all 3 positions of need.

 

SS -Lugo: Puts up numbers nearly identical to Furcal

RF- Huff: Coming off a down year, but a very good middle of the order, left handed bat in all of his previous seasons

CF- Gathright: He's on the market, which leads one to believe Baldelli will be ready on opening day. I haven't heard any comparisons on Gathright, but I liken him to Kenny Lofton.

 

Tampa can fill every one of those holes internally and cheaply. What they would want in return would likely be pitching. After Kazmir, they have very little. They aren't going to get anyone via free agency, unless no other team wants them.

 

It would cost a lot for those three guys. And I might try to get Bradley before making this deal. If Bradley is going nowhere, what might it take to land these 3 guys?

 

Jerome Williams, Rich Hill, Sean Marshall and Brandon Sing? Huff and Lugo aren't cheap. Between those two, we'd be taking on 10m. Would that lower the amount that Tampa would want in return if we relieved them of that salary?

 

Can we still trade Brandon Sing?

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Getting back to Huff, Tampa might have our answers at all 3 positions of need.

 

SS -Lugo: Puts up numbers nearly identical to Furcal

RF- Huff: Coming off a down year, but a very good middle of the order, left handed bat in all of his previous seasons

CF- Gathright: He's on the market, which leads one to believe Baldelli will be ready on opening day. I haven't heard any comparisons on Gathright, but I liken him to Kenny Lofton.

 

Tampa can fill every one of those holes internally and cheaply. What they would want in return would likely be pitching. After Kazmir, they have very little. They aren't going to get anyone via free agency, unless no other team wants them.

 

It would cost a lot for those three guys. And I might try to get Bradley before making this deal. If Bradley is going nowhere, what might it take to land these 3 guys?

 

Jerome Williams, Rich Hill, Sean Marshall and Brandon Sing? Huff and Lugo aren't cheap. Between those two, we'd be taking on 10m. Would that lower the amount that Tampa would want in return if we relieved them of that salary?

Can the Cubs trade Sing before the Rule V draft, since he has been left unprotected?

That trade idea seems a little steep for those two.

[BigbadB]

I can't see Walker going to either TB or Wash. if he was to be included in acq'g Wilkerson/Huff.

 

Washington has Vidro as oft-injured as he has been and TB has Cantu.

 

Nor would he go to Philly, I suppose. I read in the Sun-Times that Mench isn't a target and the Cubs have decided to get a LH bat in the OF, and I can't think of anyone on the Rangers squad who fits the bill.

 

Perhaps Walker to the Mets for Floyd?

 

I think that would be worth exploring, I think you'd have to have a quality 4th OF'er given Floyd's injury history. I'm not sure how eager they'd be willing to give floyd up now that they unloaded Cameron, depending on how they feel about Nady.

 

It could be clearing the way for Manny. Then Diaz could get his shot in a Manny/Beltran/Diaz outfield.

 

A lineup of Reyes/Walker/Beltran/Manny/Delgado/Wright/Diaz/Molina or LoDuca would be nothing to scoff at, and less expensive sans Floyd.

 

Who do you believe the Mets would have to send to Boston to make the Manny deal work? If they still have Floyd to trade to Chi. for Walker, the only people I see missing from your Mets line up is X Nady and Kaz Matsui.

 

I don't think Ramon Hernandez can be ruled out as their catcher instead of Molina or LoDuca.

[BigbadB]

Getting back to Huff, Tampa might have our answers at all 3 positions of need.

 

SS -Lugo: Puts up numbers nearly identical to Furcal

RF- Huff: Coming off a down year, but a very good middle of the order, left handed bat in all of his previous seasons

CF- Gathright: He's on the market, which leads one to believe Baldelli will be ready on opening day. I haven't heard any comparisons on Gathright, but I liken him to Kenny Lofton.

 

Tampa can fill every one of those holes internally and cheaply. What they would want in return would likely be pitching. After Kazmir, they have very little. They aren't going to get anyone via free agency, unless no other team wants them.

 

It would cost a lot for those three guys. And I might try to get Bradley before making this deal. If Bradley is going nowhere, what might it take to land these 3 guys?

 

Jerome Williams, Rich Hill, Sean Marshall and Brandon Sing? Huff and Lugo aren't cheap. Between those two, we'd be taking on 10m. Would that lower the amount that Tampa would want in return if we relieved them of that salary?

 

Can we still trade Brandon Sing?

 

Oh yeah, I guess not. How about Scott Moore instead. They could probably use a 3b prospect.

[XZero771679666304]

Getting back to Huff, Tampa might have our answers at all 3 positions of need.

 

SS -Lugo: Puts up numbers nearly identical to Furcal

RF- Huff: Coming off a down year, but a very good middle of the order, left handed bat in all of his previous seasons

CF- Gathright: He's on the market, which leads one to believe Baldelli will be ready on opening day. I haven't heard any comparisons on Gathright, but I liken him to Kenny Lofton.

 

Tampa can fill every one of those holes internally and cheaply. What they would want in return would likely be pitching. After Kazmir, they have very little. They aren't going to get anyone via free agency, unless no other team wants them.

 

It would cost a lot for those three guys. And I might try to get Bradley before making this deal. If Bradley is going nowhere, what might it take to land these 3 guys?

 

Jerome Williams, Rich Hill, Sean Marshall and Brandon Sing? Huff and Lugo aren't cheap. Between those two, we'd be taking on 10m. Would that lower the amount that Tampa would want in return if we relieved them of that salary?

Can the Cubs trade Sing before the Rule V draft, since he has been left unprotected?

That trade idea seems a little steep for those two.

 

I'd rather throw those players at Adam Dunn.

 

How about Williams, Hill and Dopirak to the Reds for Dunn, and Patterson + prospects to the Nats for Wilkerson?

[rawaction]

I can't see Walker going to either TB or Wash. if he was to be included in acq'g Wilkerson/Huff.

 

Washington has Vidro as oft-injured as he has been and TB has Cantu.

 

Nor would he go to Philly, I suppose. I read in the Sun-Times that Mench isn't a target and the Cubs have decided to get a LH bat in the OF, and I can't think of anyone on the Rangers squad who fits the bill.

 

Perhaps Walker to the Mets for Floyd?

 

I think that would be worth exploring, I think you'd have to have a quality 4th OF'er given Floyd's injury history. I'm not sure how eager they'd be willing to give floyd up now that they unloaded Cameron, depending on how they feel about Nady.

 

What about a 3-way deal?

 

Texas gets- Patterson, Walker, Heilman, Hill

Mets get- Mench and Wuertz

Cubs get- Soriano and Floyd

[XZero771679666304]

I can't see Walker going to either TB or Wash. if he was to be included in acq'g Wilkerson/Huff.

 

Washington has Vidro as oft-injured as he has been and TB has Cantu.

 

Nor would he go to Philly, I suppose. I read in the Sun-Times that Mench isn't a target and the Cubs have decided to get a LH bat in the OF, and I can't think of anyone on the Rangers squad who fits the bill.

 

Perhaps Walker to the Mets for Floyd?

 

I think that would be worth exploring, I think you'd have to have a quality 4th OF'er given Floyd's injury history. I'm not sure how eager they'd be willing to give floyd up now that they unloaded Cameron, depending on how they feel about Nady.

 

It could be clearing the way for Manny. Then Diaz could get his shot in a Manny/Beltran/Diaz outfield.

 

A lineup of Reyes/Walker/Beltran/Manny/Delgado/Wright/Diaz/Molina or LoDuca would be nothing to scoff at, and less expensive sans Floyd.

 

Who do you believe the Mets would have to send to Boston to make the Manny deal work? If they still have Floyd to trade to Chi. for Walker, the only people I see missing from your Mets line up is X Nady and Kaz Matsui.

 

I don't think Ramon Hernandez can be ruled out as their catcher instead of Molina or LoDuca.

 

I imagine Lastings Milledge and Nady would be part of the Manny deal. Matsui seems destined for either trade or the bench unless the Mets don't acquire a 2B, which they have been actively trying to do.

 

The Mets are close to acquiring Paul Lo Duca from the Marlins in exchange for a minor leaguer, according to the New York Post.

It can't be Lastings Milledge. This is very bad news for Bengie Molina and Ramon Hernandez, as we can be sure the Marlins aren't going to spend big to replace Lo Duca. Perhaps one of the two will end up accepting arbitration. It's nearly certain to be offered to Molina, less certain with Hernandez. The Orioles and Diamondbacks could still be willing to invest some significant money in a catcher, but it's hard to imagine either going to $8 million per year, which is what Molina hoped to get. Dec. 4 - 3:42 am et

[Blueheart05]

When I say on the cheap, I'm talking about players req'd to get him not salary. You could ideally get Wilkerson or Dunn much cheaper financially than Huff, but give up more to get him.

 

Huff is coming off a down year and is the most expensive player on their roster at a postion where they have surplus of younger, highly talented, and cheaper players.

 

Huff is a perfect fit for any team needing a LH bat for a corner OF spot, They also happen to have a SS who can leadoff and one of the talented younger players in the game that is waiting to play there or will shift to the OF.

 

Huff should consider being a DH because his defense is lacking. If we're going to have someone lost in the outfield it should be Manny (No, I don't think it will happen). Seriously, Huff is someone who can probably be aquired at a reasonable price but he isn't a very good defender which may not be a good thing for the Wrigley swirling winds. He'll look worse than DuBoise. He shouldn't be at the top of the list.

[UK1679666180]

His defense will be better than Dubois, there's no doubt in my mind that he's better defensively than Dubois, he's probably similar to the level that Alou and Sosa brought during '04-'05.

 

If I was to guess, I would predict Pierre and Jacque Jones in CF and RF.

[soapy]

I'm interested to see how the Furcal signing is going to affect LA's infield. My assumption is Kent moves to 1B and Izturis to 2B. I'm guessing that pretty much kills a Bradley for Walker deal, unless LA feels Izturis can be a utility man, or won't be ready to start the year. I'd be pretty interested in seeing what it would take to get both Lugo and Huff from TB and then get Bradley via trade or signing if he's non-tendered.

 

Lugo

Bradley

Lee

Ramirez

Huff

Barret

Murton

Cedeno/Neifi

 

It will take either Barrett, Murton or Huff to emerge with some power to hit in that 6th spot. I think at least one of them will be capable. That lineup would likely fall somewhere between average and very good if Huff bounces back and Murton is for real. Both are gambles, but not bad ones, IMO.

[JeffH]

Any interest in Drew?

 

Think Colletti would want to get out from under that?

[soapy]

If I was to guess, I would predict Pierre and Jacque Jones in CF and RF.

 

I came into this offseason with a great fear that would happen. It seems to be getting a little more likely with each passing day. Now add in a fear of Mabry in LF. :pukel:

 

 

EDIT: That is post #1000. I hoped for something a little more joyful.

Edited December 4, 2005 by soapy

[CuseCubFan69]

If I was to guess, I would predict Pierre and Jacque Jones in CF and RF.

 

I came into this offseason with a great fear that would happen. It seems to be getting a little more likely with each passing day. Now add in a fear of Mabry in LF. :pukel:

 

Wow Cacique...what a horrible 1000th post!

[soapy]

If I was to guess, I would predict Pierre and Jacque Jones in CF and RF.

 

I came into this offseason with a great fear that would happen. It seems to be getting a little more likely with each passing day. Now add in a fear of Mabry in LF. :pukel:

 

Wow Cacique...what a horrible 1000th post!

 

Hahah...I just noticed that after I posted. I don't know if I should laugh or cry :(

[E.J.]

I'm interested to see how the Furcal signing is going to affect LA's infield. My assumption is Kent moves to 1B and Izturis to 2B. I'm guessing that pretty much kills a Bradley for Walker deal, unless LA feels Izturis can be a utility man, or won't be ready to start the year. I'd be pretty interested in seeing what it would take to get both Lugo and Huff from TB and then get Bradley via trade or signing if he's non-tendered.

 

Lugo

Bradley

Lee

Ramirez

Huff

Barret

Murton

Cedeno/Neifi

 

It will take either Barrett, Murton or Huff to emerge with some power to hit in that 6th spot. I think at least one of them will be capable. That lineup would likely fall somewhere between average and very good if Huff bounces back and Murton is for real. Both are gambles, but not bad ones, IMO.

 

The guys over at nyfansites.com message boards think a trade for Kent to the Mets could happen sometime soon. It would make sense for the Dodgers to trade off Kent. They could sign someone like Mueller or Graffanino to play 2nd until Izturis is healthy. Saves them some money.