LH power bat options for RF?

[TrueBlueCubFan]

via trade:

Bobby Abreu

Cliff Floyd

Adam Dunn (good enough defensively for RF?)

Brad Wilkerson

Luis Gonzalez

Milton Bradley(switch)

Shawn Green (very unlikely)

Trot Nixon

Jay Gibbons

Aubrey Huff (good enough defensively?)

Raul Ibanez

Chad Tracy

Ryan Klesko

 

via FA:

Jacque Jones

Jeromy Burnitz

Matt Lawton (not likely)

 

possible RH options for RF:

Kevin Mench

Manny Ramirez

Craig Wilson

Austin Kearns

Willy Mo Pena

 

FA RH:

Juan Encarnacion

Rondell White

Reggie Sanders

Preston Wilson

 

What we want is too easy!

Any thoughts on what you think JH will do?

[JeffH]

Any thoughts on what you think JH will do?

 

He'll trade Pie, Hill, Guzman, and Marshall for Trot Nixon.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Any thoughts on what you think JH will do?

 

He'll trade Pie, Hill, Guzman, and Marshall for Trot Nixon.

 

I doubt that.

[JWCUB]

I say trade for Pierre....takes care of CF AND leadoff. Sign a FA starter....Millwood, Burnett, or Washburn. Remember Mad Dog is in the last year of his contract. Then make a hard run for Manny. We will have the money to eat some of his contract, AND we have a decent supply of minor league arms that the Bosox might want. An outfield of Pierre,Murton, and Manny. Walker at 2nd and Ronny at short.

What do you think?

[TrueBlueCubFan]

I say trade for Pierre....takes care of CF AND leadoff. Sign a FA starter....Millwood, Burnett, or Washburn. Remember Mad Dog is in the last year of his contract. Then make a hard run for Manny. We will have the money to eat some of his contract, AND we have a decent supply of minor league arms that the Bosox might want. An outfield of Pierre,Murton, and Manny. Walker at 2nd and Ronny at short.

What do you think?

Manny would be a huge upgrade offensively, however, that OF is very bad defensively. I would only put Manny in LF. Murton would have to be moved or be the 4th OF for that scenario to work. Don't forget one of JH's priorities this off-season was to improve the defense & that does not do it.

[UK1679666180]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

[JWCUB]

I say trade for Pierre....takes care of CF AND leadoff. Sign a FA starter....Millwood, Burnett, or Washburn. Remember Mad Dog is in the last year of his contract. Then make a hard run for Manny. We will have the money to eat some of his contract, AND we have a decent supply of minor league arms that the Bosox might want. An outfield of Pierre,Murton, and Manny. Walker at 2nd and Ronny at short.

What do you think?

Manny would be a huge upgrade offensively, however, that OF is very bad defensively. I would only put Manny in LF. Murton would have to be moved or be the 4th OF for that scenario to work. Don't forget one of JH's priorities this off-season was to improve the defense & that does not do it.

 

IMO Mannys D is not as bad as people make it out to be. Sure, he is no gold glover, but he is not Alou either. He makes maybe a handful of mistakes a year that get played over and over again on ESPN. I see Murton continue to get better. Remember, he is still young.

[CuseCubFan69]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

I'm just worried that players that had a decrease in power in 2005 like Huff may have had them for a reason. I like to see the Cubs get Lugo do you think that the Cubs could out bid Atlanta player wise?

[XZero771679666304]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

Hendry also has inquired about Devil Rays outfielder Aubrey Huff, another left-handed hitter. While Huff is average at best on defense, he could be a much more productive hitter than Jeromy Burnitz, who manned right field last season.

 

and

 

The Cubs likely will turn their attention to the Tampa Bay Devil Rays' Julio Lugo, who, like Pierre, would fill the team's need for a leadoff man.

 

Looks like you aren't alone in that line of thinking.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

I say trade for Pierre....takes care of CF AND leadoff. Sign a FA starter....Millwood, Burnett, or Washburn. Remember Mad Dog is in the last year of his contract. Then make a hard run for Manny. We will have the money to eat some of his contract, AND we have a decent supply of minor league arms that the Bosox might want. An outfield of Pierre,Murton, and Manny. Walker at 2nd and Ronny at short.

What do you think?

Manny would be a huge upgrade offensively, however, that OF is very bad defensively. I would only put Manny in LF. Murton would have to be moved or be the 4th OF for that scenario to work. Don't forget one of JH's priorities this off-season was to improve the defense & that does not do it.

 

Pierre isn't exactly an improvement on defense...well, he is b/c Patterson was mopping about his ABs in the field last year, but typically Patterson is much better defensively than Pierre.

 

I think that defense comment of Hendry's probably applied to the middle infield, not every position.

[rawaction]

Maybe all the rumors we heard about will now come to fruition? Lowe and Bradley to the Cubs (with Patterson going to LA) would take up about the same amount of payroll as Furcal would have (with Patterson staying). Plus, it kills 2 birds, with an OF and a pretty decent innings eating pitcher. Then Hendry still has the money to go out and do the trade with Texas for Soriano and Mench, go harder after Pierre, or try to go after a big OF bat in Abreu and Dunn.

 

I did want Furcal as a Cub, but I think the accompanying moves may have been going cheap at SP, CF, and RF.

[USSoccer]

Why not just offer Pie and Williams for Manny plus $6m per year of his deal?

[CubinNY]

via trade:

Bobby Abreu

he'd be priority #1

Cliff Floyd

I don't know if he is available. If the Mets get Manny he might be but he is a LFer.

Adam Dunn (good enough defensively for RF?)

I have much hetero man-love for Dunn. I would at least talk to Cin

Brad Wilkerson

He would be great for CF or RF

Luis Gonzalez

Not worth the money

Milton Bradley(switch)

It could happen. I'd like him, but for CF

Shawn Green (very unlikely)

I think he still has a NTC? I could be wrong

Trot Nixon

How can one not love a guy named Trot? But he is a platoon guy

Jay Gibbons

Not an upgade from Burnitz and more expensive

Aubrey Huff (good enough defensively?)

I like him

Raul Ibanez

See Gibbons

Chad Tracy

Good young guy, but isn't he a 1st baseman?

Ryan Klesko

He won't leave surf country

 

via FA:

Jacque Jones

Jeromy Burnitz

Matt Lawton (not likely)

 

possible RH options for RF:

Kevin Mench

Manny Ramirez

Craig Wilson

Austin Kearns

Willy Mo Pena

 

FA RH:

Juan Encarnacion

Rondell White

Reggie Sanders

Preston Wilson

 

thanks but no thanks to all the above.

 

 

What we want is too easy!

Any thoughts on what you think JH will do?

 

I have no idea. I'd go after Abrue, as if my job depended on it.

[UK1679666180]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

I'm just worried that players that had a decrease in power in 2005 like Huff may have had them for a reason. I like to see the Cubs get Lugo do you think that the Cubs could out bid Atlanta player wise?

 

They could outbid Atlanta as far as players req'd to get Lugo, but I don't see Atlanta being as major player for Lugo. They wanted to keep Furcal w/out question, but I'm not sure they have Betemit slotted for 3B, SS, or even an everyday day player.With Jones and Marte at 3B, I can't see them putting Betemit at 3B, I think he showed why he has been a top prospects over the last few years with his '05 season.

 

I think Atl. is committed to putting Betemit as their starting SS than the Cubs are w/Cedeno.

 

I think Huff needs a new start in an organization that isn't worried about keeping the payroll under 30mil at the expense of winning.

[E.J.]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

We're top 5 in payroll and I'm sure Hendry is going to get someone on the cheap like Huff to play RF. Complete joke. How about making a splash by trading for a big bat, Mr. Hendry???

[rawaction]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

We're top 5 in payroll and I'm sure Hendry is going to get someone on the cheap like Huff to play RF. Complete joke. How about making a splash by trading for a big bat, Mr. Hendry???

 

He has to have the trading chips. I don't see anyway for the Cubs to trade for Abreu or Manny without a 3rd team getting involved. Philly wants a front-line starter. Boston wants to replace production, they aren't a salary dumping type of team.

[UK1679666180]

When I say on the cheap, I'm talking about players req'd to get him not salary. You could ideally get Wilkerson or Dunn much cheaper financially than Huff, but give up more to get him.

 

Huff is coming off a down year and is the most expensive player on their roster at a postion where they have surplus of younger, highly talented, and cheaper players.

 

Huff is a perfect fit for any team needing a LH bat for a corner OF spot, They also happen to have a SS who can leadoff and one of the talented younger players in the game that is waiting to play there or will shift to the OF.

[CubinNY]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

We're top 5 in payroll and I'm sure Hendry is going to get someone on the cheap like Huff to play RF. Complete joke. How about making a splash by trading for a big bat, Mr. Hendry???

 

The thing about Huff is that he has been labled as "lazy" by sweet Lou. He had a very down year, but is a very good player (potentially). He can play a number of positions and is "getable".

 

This would be a good example of buying low. In other words low risk high reward.

 

If the Cubs can get him for one of the surplus arms in the pen I'd be real happy.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

We're top 5 in payroll and I'm sure Hendry is going to get someone on the cheap like Huff to play RF. Complete joke. How about making a splash by trading for a big bat, Mr. Hendry???

 

The thing about Huff is that he has been labled as "lazy" by sweet Lou. He had a very down year, but is a very good player (potentially). He can play a number of positions and is "getable".

 

This would be a good example of buying low. In other words low risk high reward.

 

If the Cubs can get him for one of the surplus arms in the pen I'd be real happy.

Huff is one of those "in need of a change in scenary" type players. Playing in the "Friendly Confines" might help him turn the corner.

[rawaction]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

We're top 5 in payroll and I'm sure Hendry is going to get someone on the cheap like Huff to play RF. Complete joke. How about making a splash by trading for a big bat, Mr. Hendry???

 

The thing about Huff is that he has been labled as "lazy" by sweet Lou. He had a very down year, but is a very good player (potentially). He can play a number of positions and is "getable".

 

This would be a good example of buying low. In other words low risk high reward.

 

If the Cubs can get him for one of the surplus arms in the pen I'd be real happy.

 

I could handle Huff. I don't think he's as bad as the player he was last year. Getting Huff and Lugo would be nice, again killing 2 birds with a minimal increase in payroll over Furcal alone. But if I'm going with unsure production in RF, I'd like more than a slap hitter in CF (Pierre). If the Cubs get Pierre, I'd want one of the more productive bats in RF (Abreu, Dunn, Floyd). If not, I'll take any combination of Bradley in CF and a similarly productive RF.

[CubinNY]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

We're top 5 in payroll and I'm sure Hendry is going to get someone on the cheap like Huff to play RF. Complete joke. How about making a splash by trading for a big bat, Mr. Hendry???

 

The thing about Huff is that he has been labled as "lazy" by sweet Lou. He had a very down year, but is a very good player (potentially). He can play a number of positions and is "getable".

 

This would be a good example of buying low. In other words low risk high reward.

 

If the Cubs can get him for one of the surplus arms in the pen I'd be real happy.

Huff is one of those "in need of a change in scenary" type players. Playing in the "Friendly Confines" might help him turn the corner.

If Hendry could somehow manage to get Kazmir at the same time I would symbolically kiss his feet.

 

Williams, Brownlie, Sing for Huff and Kazmir.

 

Before you scoff. I read somewhere that Tampa has soured on Kazmir a little. There are questions about his "make up" and mechanics.

[XZero771679666304]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

We're top 5 in payroll and I'm sure Hendry is going to get someone on the cheap like Huff to play RF. Complete joke. How about making a splash by trading for a big bat, Mr. Hendry???

 

The thing about Huff is that he has been labled as "lazy" by sweet Lou. He had a very down year, but is a very good player (potentially). He can play a number of positions and is "getable".

 

This would be a good example of buying low. In other words low risk high reward.

 

If the Cubs can get him for one of the surplus arms in the pen I'd be real happy.

 

I could handle Huff. I don't think he's as bad as the player he was last year. Getting Huff and Lugo would be nice, again killing 2 birds with a minimal increase in payroll over Furcal alone. But if I'm going with unsure production in RF, I'd like more than a slap hitter in CF (Pierre). If the Cubs get Pierre, I'd want one of the more productive bats in RF (Abreu, Dunn, Floyd). If not, I'll take any combination of Bradley in CF and a similarly productive RF.

 

How about trading for Huff and Lugo, and trading for Wilkerson?

 

1.Wilkerson CF

2.Lugo SS

3.Lee 1B

4.Ramirez 3B

5.Huff LF

6.Murton RF

7.Barrett C

8.Neifi 2B

 

The only problem I see with that is neither Huff or Murton have the defensive skillset for RF.

[rawaction]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

We're top 5 in payroll and I'm sure Hendry is going to get someone on the cheap like Huff to play RF. Complete joke. How about making a splash by trading for a big bat, Mr. Hendry???

 

The thing about Huff is that he has been labled as "lazy" by sweet Lou. He had a very down year, but is a very good player (potentially). He can play a number of positions and is "getable".

 

This would be a good example of buying low. In other words low risk high reward.

 

If the Cubs can get him for one of the surplus arms in the pen I'd be real happy.

 

I could handle Huff. I don't think he's as bad as the player he was last year. Getting Huff and Lugo would be nice, again killing 2 birds with a minimal increase in payroll over Furcal alone. But if I'm going with unsure production in RF, I'd like more than a slap hitter in CF (Pierre). If the Cubs get Pierre, I'd want one of the more productive bats in RF (Abreu, Dunn, Floyd). If not, I'll take any combination of Bradley in CF and a similarly productive RF.

 

How about trading for Huff and Lugo, and trading for Wilkerson?

 

1.Wilkerson CF

2.Lugo SS

3.Lee 1B

4.Ramirez 3B

5.Huff LF

6.Murton RF

7.Barrett C

8.Neifi 2B

 

The only problem I see with that is neither Huff or Murton have the defensive skillset for RF.

 

I could handle that, except for that last guy. Cedeno should start, whether it's 2B or SS.

[XZero771679666304]

Despite the flaws defensively as well as the off-year, I think the Cubs will go after Huff and try and get him on the cheap.

 

I would not be surprised if they inquired about Lugo as well.

 

We're top 5 in payroll and I'm sure Hendry is going to get someone on the cheap like Huff to play RF. Complete joke. How about making a splash by trading for a big bat, Mr. Hendry???

 

The thing about Huff is that he has been labled as "lazy" by sweet Lou. He had a very down year, but is a very good player (potentially). He can play a number of positions and is "getable".

 

This would be a good example of buying low. In other words low risk high reward.

 

If the Cubs can get him for one of the surplus arms in the pen I'd be real happy.

 

I could handle Huff. I don't think he's as bad as the player he was last year. Getting Huff and Lugo would be nice, again killing 2 birds with a minimal increase in payroll over Furcal alone. But if I'm going with unsure production in RF, I'd like more than a slap hitter in CF (Pierre). If the Cubs get Pierre, I'd want one of the more productive bats in RF (Abreu, Dunn, Floyd). If not, I'll take any combination of Bradley in CF and a similarly productive RF.

 

How about trading for Huff and Lugo, and trading for Wilkerson?

 

1.Wilkerson CF

2.Lugo SS

3.Lee 1B

4.Ramirez 3B

5.Huff LF

6.Murton RF

7.Barrett C

8.Neifi 2B

 

The only problem I see with that is neither Huff or Murton have the defensive skillset for RF.

 

I could handle that, except for that last guy. Cedeno should start, whether it's 2B or SS.

 

Cedeno should, but with Dusty in charge I remain skeptical about it actually happening. How about this idea:

 

Trade Williams, Hill, Pinto and others to the Phils for Abreu. Trade Patterson and prospects to the Nats for Wilkerson.

 

1.Wilkerson

2.Cedeno

3.Lee

4.Abreu

5.Ramirez

6.Murton

7.Barrett

8.Neifi

[UK1679666180]

I can't see Walker going to either TB or Wash. if he was to be included in acq'g Wilkerson/Huff.

 

Washington has Vidro as oft-injured as he has been and TB has Cantu.