Eyre Soon to be a Cub

[Roast]

 

Eyre is Type A. He'd cost the Cubs their 2nd round draft choice.

 

:puke:

[JeffH]

Well then they have to sign at least one other Type A to justify such a move.

 

Or Type B.

Edited November 17, 2005 by JeffH

[jmajew]

I was looking on ESPN.coms rumer central and it doesn't even have the Cubs as a possible suitor for Eyre. Just thought I throw that out there.

 

If the Cubs are looking for a lefty specialist why wouldn't they try to sign Mike Myers. He is a Chicago native and he won't be that expensive. He is basically unstopable against lefties. 158 BAA, 198 OBP, OPS 409.

[CUBZ99]

I think there is a little bit of over reaction right now. The Cubs needed another LH reliever for the pen and Eyre was one of the best ones available this year. With Dempster, Williamson, Ohman, Eyre, Rusch, and possibly one of Novoa, Wuertz, JVB or Hill the Cubs actually have a decent bullpen with some depth in case of injury. It also leaves Hendry with incredible flexibility in regard to trades.

 

Has anybody figured out how much was spent on the bullpen last year as compared to how it is shaping up now? Seems to me that they will be fairly similar and I'm assuming most people would at the very least consider Eyre an improvement over Remlinger.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I think there is a little bit of over reaction right now. The Cubs needed another LH reliever for the pen and Eyre was one of the best ones available this year. With Dempster, Williamson, Ohman, Eyre, Rusch, and possibly one of Novoa, Wuertz, JVB or Hill the Cubs actually have a decent bullpen with some depth in case of injury. It also leaves Hendry with incredible flexibility in regard to trades.

 

Has anybody figured out how much was spent on the bullpen last year as compared to how it is shaping up now? Seems to me that they will be fairly similar and I'm assuming most people would at the very least consider Eyre an improvement over Remlinger.

 

Eyre may be one of the best available, I don't have the time or desire to check. That doesn't change the fact that he had a career year, and he likely will be no better than average in the coming years. Giving him 3 years and/or several million dollars per year is madness. If we're going to get a setup man, sign Ryan or make a trade for someone that's actually good(Linebrink, Betancourt, Riske, Romero, etc).

[CUBZ99]

I think there is a little bit of over reaction right now. The Cubs needed another LH reliever for the pen and Eyre was one of the best ones available this year. With Dempster, Williamson, Ohman, Eyre, Rusch, and possibly one of Novoa, Wuertz, JVB or Hill the Cubs actually have a decent bullpen with some depth in case of injury. It also leaves Hendry with incredible flexibility in regard to trades.

 

Has anybody figured out how much was spent on the bullpen last year as compared to how it is shaping up now? Seems to me that they will be fairly similar and I'm assuming most people would at the very least consider Eyre an improvement over Remlinger.

 

Eyre may be one of the best available, I don't have the time or desire to check. That doesn't change the fact that he had a career year, and he likely will be no better than average in the coming years. Giving him 3 years and/or several million dollars per year is madness. If we're going to get a setup man, sign Ryan or make a trade for someone that's actually good(Linebrink, Betancourt, Riske, Romero, etc).

 

 

Ryan doesn't want to be a setup guy and likely will command 2 to 3 times what Eyre will. In regard to the others, I'm sure that Hendry has a better idea than you and I, who is available and who is not and what it would take to get them. Good LH relief pitchers are not in abundance, as witness by the amount of teams that wanted to sign Eyre.

 

Is he a great signing? Maybe not, but at least Hendry has identified getting another lefty in the bullpen as a need and actually getting a guy that had some success last year.

[jdelaney5150]

This board has so many pessimists I'm surprised that most of you can find a reason to get out of bed in the morning. Seriously, after reading through most of these posts I just want to go run outside, find the nearest lake, and drown myself in it.

 

Scott Eyre is good. Has been ever since he came over from the AL. I like good players signing with my team. End of story.

 

I don't think I'll come to this board much anymore. All most of you do is criticize the ever-living-h*ll out of every move, be it minor or major, because it's not the 1 top tier free agent you wanted us to sign. That's just pathetic, and it makes me ashamed to be associated with all of you.

 

I don't contribute much, so I know I won't be missed. But allow me to say that in general I see more intelligent, objective analysis on the cbs sportsline and cubs.com message boards (which are well documented as completely useless).

[CubfaninCA]

Will bet it's a 2 year deal, w/ an option for a 3rd. Why the F would BJ Ryan want to setup? Cmon now.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I think there is a little bit of over reaction right now. The Cubs needed another LH reliever for the pen and Eyre was one of the best ones available this year. With Dempster, Williamson, Ohman, Eyre, Rusch, and possibly one of Novoa, Wuertz, JVB or Hill the Cubs actually have a decent bullpen with some depth in case of injury. It also leaves Hendry with incredible flexibility in regard to trades.

 

Has anybody figured out how much was spent on the bullpen last year as compared to how it is shaping up now? Seems to me that they will be fairly similar and I'm assuming most people would at the very least consider Eyre an improvement over Remlinger.

 

Eyre may be one of the best available, I don't have the time or desire to check. That doesn't change the fact that he had a career year, and he likely will be no better than average in the coming years. Giving him 3 years and/or several million dollars per year is madness. If we're going to get a setup man, sign Ryan or make a trade for someone that's actually good(Linebrink, Betancourt, Riske, Romero, etc).

 

 

Ryan doesn't want to be a setup guy and likely will command 2 to 3 times what Eyre will. In regard to the others, I'm sure that Hendry has a better idea than you and I, who is available and who is not and what it would take to get them. Good LH relief pitchers are not in abundance, as witness by the amount of teams that wanted to sign Eyre.

 

Is he a great signing? Maybe not, but at least Hendry has identified getting another lefty in the bullpen as a need and actually getting a guy that had some success last year.

 

If you want to gamble on Eyre repeating his numbers, then give him a year and maybe a million after you've tried to fix your other holes. They're throwing 3 years 10 million out there, that's absolute madness. No justification for that at all.

[Mark_R]

Where have the figures for the deal been reported at?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Where have the figures for the deal been reported at?

 

3 years is a pretty widely reported length. The only amount I've heard is 9 or 10 million total for 3 years.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

This board has so many pessimists I'm surprised that most of you can find a reason to get out of bed in the morning. Seriously, after reading through most of these posts I just want to go run outside, find the nearest lake, and drown myself in it.

 

Scott Eyre is good. Has been ever since he came over from the AL. I like good players signing with my team. End of story.

 

I don't think I'll come to this board much anymore. All most of you do is criticize the ever-living-h*ll out of every move, be it minor or major, because it's not the 1 top tier free agent you wanted us to sign. That's just pathetic, and it makes me ashamed to be associated with all of you.

 

I don't contribute much, so I know I won't be missed. But allow me to say that in general I see more intelligent, objective analysis on the cbs sportsline and cubs.com message boards (which are well documented as completely useless).

 

well said. This board needs more posters like you. You are absolutley correct. There are some good, knowlegeable & fair posters here, you just have to weed them out. Use your ignore button, it works for me.

[sethuel1]

I like good players signing with my team. End of story.

 

see, that's why you're better than everyone else. Most of us don't like good players signing with our team.

[CUBZ99]

I think there is a little bit of over reaction right now. The Cubs needed another LH reliever for the pen and Eyre was one of the best ones available this year. With Dempster, Williamson, Ohman, Eyre, Rusch, and possibly one of Novoa, Wuertz, JVB or Hill the Cubs actually have a decent bullpen with some depth in case of injury. It also leaves Hendry with incredible flexibility in regard to trades.

 

Has anybody figured out how much was spent on the bullpen last year as compared to how it is shaping up now? Seems to me that they will be fairly similar and I'm assuming most people would at the very least consider Eyre an improvement over Remlinger.

 

Eyre may be one of the best available, I don't have the time or desire to check. That doesn't change the fact that he had a career year, and he likely will be no better than average in the coming years. Giving him 3 years and/or several million dollars per year is madness. If we're going to get a setup man, sign Ryan or make a trade for someone that's actually good(Linebrink, Betancourt, Riske, Romero, etc).

 

 

Ryan doesn't want to be a setup guy and likely will command 2 to 3 times what Eyre will. In regard to the others, I'm sure that Hendry has a better idea than you and I, who is available and who is not and what it would take to get them. Good LH relief pitchers are not in abundance, as witness by the amount of teams that wanted to sign Eyre.

 

Is he a great signing? Maybe not, but at least Hendry has identified getting another lefty in the bullpen as a need and actually getting a guy that had some success last year.

 

If you want to gamble on Eyre repeating his numbers, then give him a year and maybe a million after you've tried to fix your other holes. They're throwing 3 years 10 million out there, that's absolute madness. No justification for that at all.

 

So you are reporting that it is 3 years $10? I don't see how you can claim that his numbers are bad if you haven't seen them. Over the last three years lefties are hitting .200 against him. He is a veteran, he throws strikes and he gets people out. Can't do much better than that from the bullpen.

 

The addition of Eyre gives the Cubs 2 LH arms in the bullpen that will give lefties fits. If you need more justification than that, perhaps you are not dealing in reality?

[sethuel1]

The addition of Eyre gives the Cubs 2 LH arms in the bullpen that will give lefties fits. If you need more justification than that, perhaps you are not dealing in reality?

 

if you've already got an arm in the bullpen that will give lefties fits (at $350k, mind you), is it really financially wise to get another lefty to perform mostly redundant functions at $3 million for 3 seasons?

[cubs121]

i agree.........

the cubs need to start something this offseason.....

but they do need a lefty for the bp and this could be pretty good!

but then i want to see hendry get busy get some im pact players like giles, furcal..... hope hendry does something

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Scott Eyre is good. Has been ever since he came over from the AL. I like good players signing with my team. End of story.

 

Highly debateable. His career year this year aside, his WHIP as a Giant is 1.42, in line with his subpar career.

 

I don't think I'll come to this board much anymore. All most of you do is criticize the ever-living-h*ll out of every move, be it minor or major, because it's not the 1 top tier free agent you wanted us to sign. That's just pathetic, and it makes me ashamed to be associated with all of you.

 

Many of us are disappointed at what we think are poor moves overpaying for mediocrity, while not much attention is being paid to the best fits for the team. We're not upset because it's not the guy on our wishlist, we're upset because the guy isn't good, and/or is overpaid for what he brings.

 

But allow me to say that in general I see more intelligent, objective analysis on the cbs sportsline and cubs.com message boards (which are well documented as completely useless).

 

I disagree, but if you like it better elsewhere then I hope you enjoy it.

[CUBZ99]

The addition of Eyre gives the Cubs 2 LH arms in the bullpen that will give lefties fits. If you need more justification than that, perhaps you are not dealing in reality?

 

if you've already got an arm in the bullpen that will give lefties fits (at $350k, mind you), is it really financially wise to get another lefty to perform mostly redundant functions at $3 million for 3 seasons?

 

Yes, you already have 1 lefty cheap, now you add another good lefty and amazingly you have 2 LHP in the bullpen that can get lefties out.

[YearofDaCubs]

This board has so many pessimists I'm surprised that most of you can find a reason to get out of bed in the morning. Seriously, after reading through most of these posts I just want to go run outside, find the nearest lake, and drown myself in it.

 

Scott Eyre is good. Has been ever since he came over from the AL. I like good players signing with my team. End of story.

 

I don't think I'll come to this board much anymore. All most of you do is criticize the ever-living-h*ll out of every move, be it minor or major, because it's not the 1 top tier free agent you wanted us to sign. That's just pathetic, and it makes me ashamed to be associated with all of you.

 

I don't contribute much, so I know I won't be missed. But allow me to say that in general I see more intelligent, objective analysis on the cbs sportsline and cubs.com message boards (which are well documented as completely useless).

You dont like it dont read it.

[CubsWin]

Where have the figures for the deal been reported at?

They haven't been. In fact, the signing of Eyre hasn't been reported yet. It was a report on WSCR that said the Cubs could sign Eyre by the end of the day. The report apparently mentioned nothing about terms, check me if I'm wrong. That is what we know, and, more importantly, what we don't know. The rest is, well...

[YearofDaCubs]

Where have the figures for the deal been reported at?

They haven't been. In fact, the signing of Eyre hasn't been reported yet. It was a report on WSCR that said the Cubs could sign Eyre by the end of the day. The report apparently mentioned nothing about terms, check me if I'm wrong. That is what we know, and, more importantly, what we don't know. The rest is, well...

ESPN mentioned the same thing as well.

[Southpaw191679666239]

Where have the figures for the deal been reported at?

They haven't been. In fact, the signing of Eyre hasn't been reported yet. It was a report on WSCR that said the Cubs could sign Eyre by the end of the day. The report apparently mentioned nothing about terms, check me if I'm wrong. That is what we know, and, more importantly, what we don't know. The rest is, well...

 

Most frustrating of all is they have been "reporting" that a deal could be done tonight. However on one specific update, they said "a deal could be reached as soon as tonight.. then again, it could take awhile.

 

 

#-o

[CubsWin]

Use your ignore button, it works for me.

I have an ignore button?

 

Is that a premium thing?

[Andy]

This board has so many pessimists I'm surprised that most of you can find a reason to get out of bed in the morning. Seriously, after reading through most of these posts I just want to go run outside, find the nearest lake, and drown myself in it.

 

Scott Eyre is good. Has been ever since he came over from the AL. I like good players signing with my team. End of story.

 

I don't think I'll come to this board much anymore. All most of you do is criticize the ever-living-h*ll out of every move, be it minor or major, because it's not the 1 top tier free agent you wanted us to sign. That's just pathetic, and it makes me ashamed to be associated with all of you.

 

I don't contribute much, so I know I won't be missed. But allow me to say that in general I see more intelligent, objective analysis on the cbs sportsline and cubs.com message boards (which are well documented as completely useless).

You dont like it dont read it.

This board beats the crap out of most boards, and while some people here are hyper-critical, it rarely detracts from the overall quality of the board. The posters here are knowledgeable of the game.

 

If you really don't think Hendry deserves any criticism for throwing 5 million dollars at Neifi Perez and possibly 10 million at Scott Eyre when we could get at least two pretty darn good players for that amount, then that's fine, but you probably should avoid Internet boards. Throw enough people in a baseball discussion and you're bound to find some negativity, especially with an organization this disappointing.

[CUBZ99]

Many of us are disappointed at what we think are poor moves overpaying for mediocrity, while not much attention is being paid to the best fits for the team. We're not upset because it's not the guy on our wishlist, we're upset because the guy isn't good, and/or is overpaid for what he brings.

 

But allow me to say that in general I see more intelligent, objective analysis on the cbs sportsline and cubs.com message boards (which are well documented as completely useless).

 

I disagree, but if you like it better elsewhere then I hope you enjoy it.

 

CPatt20, I think your just reinforcing the point he was making in his post.

 

How can you even make a statement that a guy that puts up a stat line of 2.63 ERA, 1.08 WHIP and a .200 BAA "isn't good and/or is overpaid for what he brings."

 

(1) your statement that he isn't good, is incredibly disingenuous. You don't put up those type of number if your not "good". Sure he has not put those numbers up every year, but HAS shown he is capable of putting them up. By making such statements you only reinforce the point he was making.

 

(2) Nobody has a clue what Eyre is going to make if he signs with the Cubs so its impossible to say if they overpay.