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Well if we don't get him, it looks like we'd probably be facing him a bunch every year.

 

Rotoworld just put up that he's narrowed his choices to the Cubs, Cards, Astros, and Braves.

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I didn't think anything could be more frustrating than last seasons disaster of an offseason, but Jim Hendry is quickly proving me wrong.

 

If he has another disaster like last year and he and Dusty both recieve extentions as is rumored, then nobody here has a leg to stand on when trying to claim that the Trib wants to win.

 

The Trib put all its trust in Andy, and they've given management alll the resources they could use to build a winner. It's the management that has let down Cubs fans, not the ownership.

 

But don't you think the Trib should be responsible for cleaning house if the management team they put in isn't getting the job done? The fact they've let it go on this long shows me they don't care as much as they should.

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I can already read the headlines from his first blow up.

 

To Erye is human.

 

or

 

Cubs lose on an Erye

 

I wanted to post those but they were way to obvious...thank you for doing so

 

I'm glad that someone other than me found those funny. :D

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I didn't think anything could be more frustrating than last seasons disaster of an offseason, but Jim Hendry is quickly proving me wrong.

 

If he has another disaster like last year and he and Dusty both recieve extentions as is rumored, then nobody here has a leg to stand on when trying to claim that the Trib wants to win.

 

The Trib put all its trust in Andy, and they've given management alll the resources they could use to build a winner. It's the management that has let down Cubs fans, not the ownership.

 

But don't you think the Trib should be responsible for cleaning house if the management team they put in isn't getting the job done? The fact they've let it go on this long shows me they don't care as much as they should.

 

To be somewhat fair they were within a few outs of the World Series two years ago. I doubt the Trib will eat both Hendry and Baker's contracts when they were so close, not so long ago. Not saying I agree but they did bring them to the brink not too long ago.

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I didn't think anything could be more frustrating than last seasons disaster of an offseason, but Jim Hendry is quickly proving me wrong.

 

If he has another disaster like last year and he and Dusty both recieve extentions as is rumored, then nobody here has a leg to stand on when trying to claim that the Trib wants to win.

 

The Trib put all its trust in Andy, and they've given management alll the resources they could use to build a winner. It's the management that has let down Cubs fans, not the ownership.

 

But don't you think the Trib should be responsible for cleaning house if the management team they put in isn't getting the job done? The fact they've let it go on this long shows me they don't care as much as they should.

 

To be somewhat fair they were within a few outs of the World Series two years ago. I doubt the Trib will eat both Hendry and Baker's contracts when they were so close, not so long ago. Not saying I agree but they did bring them to the brink not too long ago.

 

Yes, but look at the personnel and management moves that have been made since then. The Lee and Nomar trades were the big ones, but you can't keep Hendry here just because of those moves. You have to look deeper at the Alfonseca fiasco, the Neifi and Macias situations, etc.

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But don't you think the Trib should be responsible for cleaning house if the management team they put in isn't getting the job done? The fact they've let it go on this long shows me they don't care as much as they should.

 

Trib execs have far great fish to fry than the Cubs. They "care" about running their corporation, which they should. I would love to see them clean house, I would have liked to see it a while ago. But Andy sold them on the build from within philosophy (which I agree with) and he apparantly has them convinced they are going in the right direction. The bottom line is every team has its business people and its baseball people. My problem is with the Cubs baseball people. I have a hard time finding fault in the business side. I don't have a hard time finding fault in the Andy/Jim/Dusty triumverate, and all their respective underlings, and yes, I do mean all.

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I didn't think anything could be more frustrating than last seasons disaster of an offseason, but Jim Hendry is quickly proving me wrong.

 

If he has another disaster like last year and he and Dusty both recieve extentions as is rumored, then nobody here has a leg to stand on when trying to claim that the Trib wants to win.

 

The Trib put all its trust in Andy, and they've given management alll the resources they could use to build a winner. It's the management that has let down Cubs fans, not the ownership.

 

But don't you think the Trib should be responsible for cleaning house if the management team they put in isn't getting the job done? The fact they've let it go on this long shows me they don't care as much as they should.

 

To be somewhat fair they were within a few outs of the World Series two years ago. I doubt the Trib will eat both Hendry and Baker's contracts when they were so close, not so long ago. Not saying I agree but they did bring them to the brink not too long ago.

 

Yes, but look at the personnel and management moves that have been made since then. The Lee and Nomar trades were the big ones, but you can't keep Hendry here just because of those moves. You have to look deeper at the Alfonseca fiasco, the Neifi and Macias situations, etc.

 

I agree, I am in no way defending Hendry, just trying to look at it from the Tribunes point of view. I think Hendry's biggest problems are his offseason signings. As far as the trade front goes I think he has done a good job beginning with Ramirez, Lee, Lofton, Simon, Karros and Grudz, I even was thrilled he got Williams and Aardsma for Hawkins. He has brought in some quality players but has been unable to put the Cubs over the top because of some of these moronic FA signings. I think he has totally sabotaged the team and his own legacy. Also, I think if he would have gotten rid of Dusty before last season and brought in someone who could actually manage things might not have been so bad.

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I seriously think if he signs Eyre, we should revoke his right to make free agent signings and force him to restock through trades.
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I didn't think anything could be more frustrating than last seasons disaster of an offseason, but Jim Hendry is quickly proving me wrong.

 

If he has another disaster like last year and he and Dusty both recieve extentions as is rumored, then nobody here has a leg to stand on when trying to claim that the Trib wants to win.

 

The Trib put all its trust in Andy, and they've given management alll the resources they could use to build a winner. It's the management that has let down Cubs fans, not the ownership.

 

But don't you think the Trib should be responsible for cleaning house if the management team they put in isn't getting the job done? The fact they've let it go on this long shows me they don't care as much as they should.

 

To be somewhat fair they were within a few outs of the World Series two years ago. I doubt the Trib will eat both Hendry and Baker's contracts when they were so close, not so long ago. Not saying I agree but they did bring them to the brink not too long ago.

 

Yes, but look at the personnel and management moves that have been made since then. The Lee and Nomar trades were the big ones, but you can't keep Hendry here just because of those moves. You have to look deeper at the Alfonseca fiasco, the Neifi and Macias situations, etc.

 

I agree, I am in no way defending Hendry, just trying to look at it from the Tribunes point of view. I think Hendry's biggest problems are his offseason signings. As far as the trade front goes I think he has done a good job beginning with Ramirez, Lee, Lofton, Simon, Karros and Grudz, I even was thrilled he got Williams and Aardsma for Hawkins. He has brought in some quality players but has been unable to put the Cubs over the top because of some of these moronic FA signings. I think he has totally sabotaged the team and his own legacy.

That sounds about right. I have said before and I will mention it again. Hendry looks to sign talent at a discount. The problem with that is the top talent wont sign to a discount contract. I dont think we will see Hendry put a 4/40 million on the table for anybidy but we'll see.

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it isn't signing Eyre in principal that sickens me, he could be a good addition to the bullpen. It's signing him FOR THREE FREAKING YEARS.

 

Unless the last two are options, very disappointing.

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Eyre made $1.5M last year. Just hopin its not more than $2M.

 

He'll get a nice raise, sorry.

 

Rotoworld said Eyre should get minimum 3 yr/9 mil.

 

Nov. 11, 2005 - 1:03 pm et

 

 

Agent Tommy Tanzer said free agent Scott Eyre has drawn interest from all 30 teams.

"I've never seen anything like it in the whole time I've been doing this," Tanzer said. Once the teams realize that Eyre is likely to command at least $9 million over three years, expect a lot of them to drop out.

Source: San Jose Mercury News

Edited by TrueBlueCubFan
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It's interesting to note that the other teams on Eyre's narrowed down list are ATL, HOU, and STL.

 

None of those clubs is really in any sort of position to be throwing ridiculously large money at him. I hope that somewhat mitigates what we pay for him.

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One thing about Eyre that is encouraging though (assuming we do sign him now)...his WHIP has gotten better each of the last 4 years, with it being around 1.1 last year, he's proven he can handle being overworked, like Dusty likes to do with his favorite relievers (over 80 appearances each of the last two years, and 70 or more each of the last 4). He has been solid the last two Septembers despite the heavy work load, and his ERA in the second half last year was actually better than the first. We need someone that Dusty can run out there over and over and over and over without wearing out, because if he's any good, that's exactly what Dusty will do. Now that I've taken a good look at him, I hope JH does go out and sign him (for two years, not three).

 

he may have a lot of appearances but he usually only comes in to face 1 or 2 batters per outing.

 

He averages more than two outs an inning (about .8 innings per appearance last year). I don't think the fact that his manager only uses him to get less than 3 outs per inning waters down the fact he pitched effectively at the end of the season after appearing in over half of the games that season. Keeping an ERA under 3.00 for the month of September after pitching that often throughout the season is quite an accomplishment, IMO.

 

My only fear might be that he could be an injury waiting to happen, with that kind of mileage on his arm.

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Not sure if this has been addressed with the Eyre issue. However, I assume he's ranked somewhere in the Elias ratings, is it high enough to cost the Cubs a draft pick if he signs before the arbitration date? I'd hate to see this team lose another high pick for signing a reliever.
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Jesus, what the hell. Seriously. I come home from school, see that hendry doesnt want to get involved with Giles, then read that he goes out and signs Eyre for THREE years. God please let this just be a load of score BS.
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Once again, Hendry signs a reliever whose market value is at its absolute highest. Will scott Eyre make the Cubs a better team? Probably. Are there a litany of left handed relievers that would have cost the Cubs a third of the price and helped just as much? Yes.

 

The $5-6 million that the Cubs are spending on Neifi Perez and Scott Eyre could have paid for Giles.

Posted

Not sure if this has been addressed with the Eyre issue. However, I assume he's ranked somewhere in the Elias ratings, is it high enough to cost the Cubs a draft pick if he signs before the arbitration date? I'd hate to see this team lose another high pick for signing a reliever.

 

Eyre is Type A. He'd cost the Cubs their 2nd round draft choice.

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Not sure if this has been addressed with the Eyre issue. However, I assume he's ranked somewhere in the Elias ratings, is it high enough to cost the Cubs a draft pick if he signs before the arbitration date? I'd hate to see this team lose another high pick for signing a reliever.

 

Eyre is Type A. He'd cost the Cubs their 2nd round draft choice.

 

Well then they have to sign at least one other Type A to justify such a move.

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