Rumoured Cubs- Marlins/Cubs-Dodgers Trades

[craig]

Seems to me that for the Cubs to improve, both the pitching and hitting needs to get better. I think improvements in both are both possible and probable. A lot of things went wrong, so even without upgrading the personnel I'd expect a better outcome next go-round. But the personnel will be upgraded. Murton and Cedeno are upgrades already. Wood is very likely to be an upgrade. And with $35+ to spend, it's hard to imagine there won't be additional substantial upgrades to come. It's inconceivable that CF won't be an upgrade too, since they won't stick with anybody to be as awful as Corey was for so many CF AB's.

 

Which should receive more focus, the pitching or the hitting? I tend to side with those on the hitting side. For several reasons:

1) the supply of pitchers who would provide an upgrade, and the associated price. Ryan, Burnett, Millwood, after that who is a safe bet to ugprade the staff by any significant degree? Given how overpriced pitching always is, supply and demand does not favor the Cubs adding scads of stud pitchers. Some improvement should come by adding outsiders. But most will need to come from within. Wood adding something. Prior giving more. Perhaps Williamson giving more. Somebody doing better than the Koronka/Mitre/Hill crew did in their rotation starts thjis past year.

2) As stated by others, we've got pitching that can get better, without going outside. But it seems clear to me that we have a number of positions where we can go outside and get probable improvement. If we can elevate the output at the other positions nearer to average, Aram and Lee could have the net offense well above average. It just seems so much easier to raise the level in LF/CF/SS than it does at rotation.

 

3) I know pitching is huge. But given the nature of some of our pitchers, I think we have some guys who really benefit from a solid, consistent offense. Maddux, Williams, the Prior we saw for most of the year, these aren't shut-down knockout aces like Oswalt and Clemens. These aren't guys who will throw back-to-back-to-back complete games like the Sox have been doing. These are guys who will labor their way to hold the damage to 2-3 runs in 6-7 innings. For an offense scoring 4-5 runs per game, that's enough to win a ton. For an offense struggling to score, that same level of pitching can give you a definite losing record. I guess I'm saying that an offense that scores will make life a lot easier on the pitching, and will make the pitching look a lot better. Did St. Louis have good pitching? Yes. But a lot of that came from Suppan and Marquis and Mulder and Morris, guys who competed but were rarely "great" and didn't dominate anybody. But they limited the damage and the offense usually scored enough to make them winners.

[Guest]

Feel free to do some digging and find out how many teams that walked 419 times or less finished anywhere better than the Cubs finish this year. Good luck!

Since the schedule went to 162 games -- 1961-present -- only 14 teams have walked less than 419 times and won 80 or more games. The best of these were the 1968 Cardinals, who took the NL Pennant with 97 wins despite only taking 378 free passes.

Ah, but that was a much different run environment, too.

Good point. The only teams to do it that didn't play in the mid/late 60s were the '84 Royals and the '03 Dodgers; neither team exactly lit up the scoreboards on a regular basis.

[Tim]

Feel free to do some digging and find out how many teams that walked 419 times or less finished anywhere better than the Cubs finish this year. Good luck!

Since the schedule went to 162 games -- 1961-present -- only 14 teams have walked less than 419 times and won 80 or more games. The best of these were the 1968 Cardinals, who took the NL Pennant with 97 wins despite only taking 378 free passes.

Ah, but that was a much different run environment, too.

Good point. The only teams to do it that didn't play in the mid/late 60s were the '84 Royals and the '03 Dodgers; neither team exactly lit up the scoreboards on a regular basis.

And the '03 Dodgers had a favorable home park that depressed the run scoring enviornment relative to the rest of the league.

[BigbadB]

The Dodgers scored a whopping 574 runs that year. Yikes.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Feel free to do some digging and find out how many teams that walked 419 times or less finished anywhere better than the Cubs finish this year. Good luck!

Since the schedule went to 162 games -- 1961-present -- only 14 teams have walked less than 419 times and won 80 or more games. The best of these were the 1968 Cardinals, who took the NL Pennant with 97 wins despite only taking 378 free passes.

Ah, but that was a much different run environment, too.

Good point. The only teams to do it that didn't play in the mid/late 60s were the '84 Royals and the '03 Dodgers; neither team exactly lit up the scoreboards on a regular basis.

 

KC won its division that year.

[BigbadB]

They just barely had a better record than the Padres had this year in winning the division. IF the Cubs had that record, they would not only have not won their division, but they wouldn't have been the wild card either. Just like this year, they were the only team in the division they played in that had a winning record.

[HoopsCubs]

Please take this with a grain of salt, as it is not from any of my reliable sources. Curiously, though, I have heard this from 2 different people in the last 2 weekends:

 

Florida trades Mike Lowell and Luis Castillo to the Cubs for Todd Walker (after Hendry picks up his option), Ricky Nolasco and an OF prospect (not named Pie).

 

The Cubs trade Lowell, $2M in cash and a pitching prospect (not named Hill or Pinto) to the Dodgers for Milton Bradley and Derek Lowe.

 

Financially, the Marlins free up a lot of payroll to pay Carlos Delgado's salary bump; the Dodgers trade 2 clubhouse problems and get some payroll flexibility in exchange for an everyday 3B; the Cubs spend $22M of their available $40M on a CF, 2B (who can bat 1-2) and a 200 inning sinker baller.

 

Hoops

 

From what a source told me, the Marlins braintrust is very split on what they should do with Delgado. The Marlins have somewhat serious financial issues, and as much they love him, they can't afford to keep him for 3 years and $48M, and not do anything else to reduce the cash outlay. Thus they are forced into an either/or situation: deal Delgado or deal some combination of players that reduces the cash burden. Their priority is to dealing Lowell (2 years/$18M), and knowing that his poor performance in 2004 will cause some heartburn, they are dangling Castillo as incentive. Castillo has a very easy vesting option that automatically pays him $6M in 2007 - the Marlins are worried about that figure too. I am told option 3 is to take a recent Yankees pitch, which was Robinson Cano and Shawn Chacon for Juan Pierre, Castillo and Paul LoDuca. Yankees would then deal Jorge Posada to Baltimore or Anaheim or the Mets.

 

Hoops

[USSoccer]

Please take this with a grain of salt, as it is not from any of my reliable sources. Curiously, though, I have heard this from 2 different people in the last 2 weekends:

 

Florida trades Mike Lowell and Luis Castillo to the Cubs for Todd Walker (after Hendry picks up his option), Ricky Nolasco and an OF prospect (not named Pie).

 

The Cubs trade Lowell, $2M in cash and a pitching prospect (not named Hill or Pinto) to the Dodgers for Milton Bradley and Derek Lowe.

 

Financially, the Marlins free up a lot of payroll to pay Carlos Delgado's salary bump; the Dodgers trade 2 clubhouse problems and get some payroll flexibility in exchange for an everyday 3B; the Cubs spend $22M of their available $40M on a CF, 2B (who can bat 1-2) and a 200 inning sinker baller.

 

Hoops

 

From what a source told me, the Marlins braintrust is very split on what they should do with Delgado. The Marlins have somewhat serious financial issues, and as much they love him, they can't afford to keep him for 3 years and $48M, and not do anything else to reduce the cash outlay. Thus they are forced into an either/or situation: deal Delgado or deal some combination of players that reduces the cash burden. Their priority is to dealing Lowell (2 years/$18M), and knowing that his poor performance in 2004 will cause some heartburn, they are dangling Castillo as incentive. Castillo has a very easy vesting option that automatically pays him $6M in 2007 - the Marlins are worried about that figure too. I am told option 3 is to take a recent Yankees pitch, which was Robinson Cano and Shawn Chacon for Juan Pierre, Castillo and Paul LoDuca. Yankees would then deal Jorge Posada to Baltimore or Anaheim or the Mets.

 

Hoops

 

If I'm the Marlins, I take the deal that involves the Cubs. Cano and Chacon? That's not an impressive haul. Plus, do you really see NY trading Posada? I thought he was one of their home grown guys, and a big clubhouse leader.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Please take this with a grain of salt, as it is not from any of my reliable sources. Curiously, though, I have heard this from 2 different people in the last 2 weekends:

 

Florida trades Mike Lowell and Luis Castillo to the Cubs for Todd Walker (after Hendry picks up his option), Ricky Nolasco and an OF prospect (not named Pie).

 

The Cubs trade Lowell, $2M in cash and a pitching prospect (not named Hill or Pinto) to the Dodgers for Milton Bradley and Derek Lowe.

 

Financially, the Marlins free up a lot of payroll to pay Carlos Delgado's salary bump; the Dodgers trade 2 clubhouse problems and get some payroll flexibility in exchange for an everyday 3B; the Cubs spend $22M of their available $40M on a CF, 2B (who can bat 1-2) and a 200 inning sinker baller.

 

Hoops

 

Assuming this trade happens. The Cubs still have 18 million available.

 

Use 9 of that to sign Furcal to a 4/36 million deal. Finally trade Cedeno and Mitre (who is out of options) to the Nationals for Guillen.

 

Here's my line-up:

 

SS Furcal

2b Castillo

1b Lee

3b Ramirez

CF Bradley

RF Guillen

LF Murton

C Barrett

 

That's a pretty formidible line-up with a nice mixture of OBP, power and speed. It ought to be pretty good defensively as well.

 

The rotation shapes out to be:

1. Zambrano

2. Prior

3. Wood

4. Maddux

5. Lowe

 

There's some innings eaters there and Jerome Williams is around for depth or trade bait.

 

The bullpen is a little trickier

 

Dempster is the closer, and I'd pencil in Ohman, Wuertz, Hill and Novoa. You could fill the last spot with Williams or look to JVB or Wellemeyer.

 

Personally, I'd use some of my last available cash to sign Dotel as a set-up man.

 

After giving up Cedeno in a trade, the bench will need some work. I'd keep Hairston around for bench duty and try to bring in an OF like Grieve. I'd use Greenberg there as well. Blanco handles the catching duties on the bench and I'd look to get Branyan or Sweeney if possible. Theriot or Fontenot might be useful on the bench and I'd likely give Sing a look as well in spring training.

[Neuby]

Please take this with a grain of salt, as it is not from any of my reliable sources. Curiously, though, I have heard this from 2 different people in the last 2 weekends:

 

Florida trades Mike Lowell and Luis Castillo to the Cubs for Todd Walker (after Hendry picks up his option), Ricky Nolasco and an OF prospect (not named Pie).

 

The Cubs trade Lowell, $2M in cash and a pitching prospect (not named Hill or Pinto) to the Dodgers for Milton Bradley and Derek Lowe.

 

Financially, the Marlins free up a lot of payroll to pay Carlos Delgado's salary bump; the Dodgers trade 2 clubhouse problems and get some payroll flexibility in exchange for an everyday 3B; the Cubs spend $22M of their available $40M on a CF, 2B (who can bat 1-2) and a 200 inning sinker baller.

 

Hoops

 

Assuming this trade happens. The Cubs still have 18 million available.

 

Use 9 of that to sign Furcal to a 4/36 million deal. Finally trade Cedeno and Mitre (who is out of options) to the Nationals for Guillen.

 

Here's my line-up:

 

SS Furcal

2b Castillo

1b Lee

3b Ramirez

CF Bradley

RF Guillen

LF Murton

C Barrett

 

That's a pretty formidible line-up with a nice mixture of OBP, power and speed. It ought to be pretty good defensively as well.

 

The rotation shapes out to be:

1. Zambrano

2. Prior

3. Wood

4. Maddux

5. Lowe

 

There's some innings eaters there and Jerome Williams is around for depth or trade bait.

 

The bullpen is a little trickier

 

Dempster is the closer, and I'd pencil in Ohman, Wuertz, Hill and Novoa. You could fill the last spot with Williams or look to JVB or Wellemeyer.

 

Personally, I'd use some of my last available cash to sign Dotel as a set-up man.

 

After giving up Cedeno in a trade, the bench will need some work. I'd keep Hairston around for bench duty and try to bring in an OF like Grieve. I'd use Greenberg there as well. Blanco handles the catching duties on the bench and I'd look to get Branyan or Sweeney if possible. Theriot or Fontenot might be useful on the bench and I'd likely give Sing a look as well in spring training.

 

Isn't having Bradley, Furcal, Castillo a little bit of over kill? Its like having three leadoff hitters. I would go the cheaper route and take a shot again with Nomar at short on the cheap. Use the left over cash on the bullpen and bench. Dotel should be a project but I wouldn't rely on it.

[Neuby]

Please take this with a grain of salt, as it is not from any of my reliable sources. Curiously, though, I have heard this from 2 different people in the last 2 weekends:

 

Florida trades Mike Lowell and Luis Castillo to the Cubs for Todd Walker (after Hendry picks up his option), Ricky Nolasco and an OF prospect (not named Pie).

 

The Cubs trade Lowell, $2M in cash and a pitching prospect (not named Hill or Pinto) to the Dodgers for Milton Bradley and Derek Lowe.

 

Financially, the Marlins free up a lot of payroll to pay Carlos Delgado's salary bump; the Dodgers trade 2 clubhouse problems and get some payroll flexibility in exchange for an everyday 3B; the Cubs spend $22M of their available $40M on a CF, 2B (who can bat 1-2) and a 200 inning sinker baller.

 

Hoops

 

Assuming this trade happens. The Cubs still have 18 million available.

 

Use 9 of that to sign Furcal to a 4/36 million deal. Finally trade Cedeno and Mitre (who is out of options) to the Nationals for Guillen.

 

Here's my line-up:

 

SS Furcal

2b Castillo

1b Lee

3b Ramirez

CF Bradley

RF Guillen

LF Murton

C Barrett

 

That's a pretty formidible line-up with a nice mixture of OBP, power and speed. It ought to be pretty good defensively as well.

 

The rotation shapes out to be:

1. Zambrano

2. Prior

3. Wood

4. Maddux

5. Lowe

 

There's some innings eaters there and Jerome Williams is around for depth or trade bait.

 

The bullpen is a little trickier

 

Dempster is the closer, and I'd pencil in Ohman, Wuertz, Hill and Novoa. You could fill the last spot with Williams or look to JVB or Wellemeyer.

 

Personally, I'd use some of my last available cash to sign Dotel as a set-up man.

 

After giving up Cedeno in a trade, the bench will need some work. I'd keep Hairston around for bench duty and try to bring in an OF like Grieve. I'd use Greenberg there as well. Blanco handles the catching duties on the bench and I'd look to get Branyan or Sweeney if possible. Theriot or Fontenot might be useful on the bench and I'd likely give Sing a look as well in spring training.

 

Isn't having Bradley, Furcal, Castillo a little bit of over kill? Its like having three leadoff hitters. I would go the cheaper route and take a shot again with Nomar at short on the cheap. Use the left over cash on the bullpen and bench. Dotel should be a project but I wouldn't rely on him right off the bat , they should pursue a big time set up man.

[Sabermetrician]

Agreed with Neuby. If we're getting Castillo and Bradley, the top two spots in the batting order are set and I'd rather bring Nomar back. The reward with Nomar in that lineup is higher than it is with Furcal and if Nomar gets injured again, then Cedeno's not a terrible option hitting in the bottom part of that order either.

[XZero771679666304]

 

Isn't having Bradley, Furcal, Castillo a little bit of over kill? Its like having three leadoff hitters. I would go the cheaper route and take a shot again with Nomar at short on the cheap. Use the left over cash on the bullpen and bench. Dotel should be a project but I wouldn't rely on him right off the bat , they should pursue a big time set up man.

 

Bradley is a middle of the order hitter. He has 80 AB's above the 3 spot in the past 4 years combined.

[BigbadB]

Please take this with a grain of salt, as it is not from any of my reliable sources. Curiously, though, I have heard this from 2 different people in the last 2 weekends:

 

Florida trades Mike Lowell and Luis Castillo to the Cubs for Todd Walker (after Hendry picks up his option), Ricky Nolasco and an OF prospect (not named Pie).

 

The Cubs trade Lowell, $2M in cash and a pitching prospect (not named Hill or Pinto) to the Dodgers for Milton Bradley and Derek Lowe.

 

Financially, the Marlins free up a lot of payroll to pay Carlos Delgado's salary bump; the Dodgers trade 2 clubhouse problems and get some payroll flexibility in exchange for an everyday 3B; the Cubs spend $22M of their available $40M on a CF, 2B (who can bat 1-2) and a 200 inning sinker baller.

 

Hoops

 

Assuming this trade happens. The Cubs still have 18 million available.

 

Use 9 of that to sign Furcal to a 4/36 million deal. Finally trade Cedeno and Mitre (who is out of options) to the Nationals for Guillen.

 

Here's my line-up:

 

SS Furcal

2b Castillo

1b Lee

3b Ramirez

CF Bradley

RF Guillen

LF Murton

C Barrett

 

That's a pretty formidible line-up with a nice mixture of OBP, power and speed. It ought to be pretty good defensively as well.

 

The rotation shapes out to be:

1. Zambrano

2. Prior

3. Wood

4. Maddux

5. Lowe

 

There's some innings eaters there and Jerome Williams is around for depth or trade bait.

 

The bullpen is a little trickier

 

Dempster is the closer, and I'd pencil in Ohman, Wuertz, Hill and Novoa. You could fill the last spot with Williams or look to JVB or Wellemeyer.

 

Personally, I'd use some of my last available cash to sign Dotel as a set-up man.

 

After giving up Cedeno in a trade, the bench will need some work. I'd keep Hairston around for bench duty and try to bring in an OF like Grieve. I'd use Greenberg there as well. Blanco handles the catching duties on the bench and I'd look to get Branyan or Sweeney if possible. Theriot or Fontenot might be useful on the bench and I'd likely give Sing a look as well in spring training.

 

Isn't having Bradley, Furcal, Castillo a little bit of over kill? Its like having three leadoff hitters. I would go the cheaper route and take a shot again with Nomar at short on the cheap. Use the left over cash on the bullpen and bench. Dotel should be a project but I wouldn't rely on him right off the bat , they should pursue a big time set up man.

 

Nope. Bradley is better suited hitting 2nd or 3rd. Actually, he'd be ideal hitting 4th with his ability to switch hit if you had guys like Furcal and Castillo hitting 1st and 2nd. He has 25 HR power, speed, patience and a good AVG. to go along with his good OBP.

[goonys evil twin]

Nope. Bradley is better suited hitting 2nd or 3rd. Actually, he'd be ideal hitting 4th with his ability to switch hit if you had guys like Furcal and Castillo hitting 1st and 2nd. He has 25 HR power, speed, patience and a good AVG. to go along with his good OBP.

 

The Milton Bradley train is starting to run out of control when people suggest Bradley would be the ideal 4 hitter for the Cubs next year. He's a career .269/.350/.426 hitter. He's outperformed that number in 2 of the last 3 years, but the only one that was close to a full year he was in-line with his career numbers.

 

I'm fine with Bradley on this team, but he's a 2 hitter at best, and probably more like a 6 hitter.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Agreed with Neuby. If we're getting Castillo and Bradley, the top two spots in the batting order are set and I'd rather bring Nomar back. The reward with Nomar in that lineup is higher than it is with Furcal and if Nomar gets injured again, then Cedeno's not a terrible option hitting in the bottom part of that order either.

 

But if I'm trading Cedeno to get Guillen, I'll need a more reliable SS than Nomar so ergo Furcal. Also, Furcal/Castillo is better defensively than Nomar/Castillo.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Nope. Bradley is better suited hitting 2nd or 3rd. Actually, he'd be ideal hitting 4th with his ability to switch hit if you had guys like Furcal and Castillo hitting 1st and 2nd. He has 25 HR power, speed, patience and a good AVG. to go along with his good OBP.

 

The Milton Bradley train is starting to run out of control when people suggest Bradley would be the ideal 4 hitter for the Cubs next year. He's a career .269/.350/.426 hitter. He's outperformed that number in 2 of the last 3 years, but the only one that was close to a full year he was in-line with his career numbers.

 

I'm fine with Bradley on this team, but he's a 2 hitter at best, and probably more like a 6 hitter.

 

I have Bradley as the number six hitter in my proposed line-up. I think having some speed and power from a switch hitter in that spot breaks the line-up nicely.

[BigbadB]

Nope. Bradley is better suited hitting 2nd or 3rd. Actually, he'd be ideal hitting 4th with his ability to switch hit if you had guys like Furcal and Castillo hitting 1st and 2nd. He has 25 HR power, speed, patience and a good AVG. to go along with his good OBP.

 

The Milton Bradley train is starting to run out of control when people suggest Bradley would be the ideal 4 hitter for the Cubs next year. He's a career .269/.350/.426 hitter. He's outperformed that number in 2 of the last 3 years, but the only one that was close to a full year he was in-line with his career numbers.

 

I'm fine with Bradley on this team, but he's a 2 hitter at best, and probably more like a 6 hitter.

 

I was just saying that if you had Furcal and Castillo already, I wouldn't see a problem with a guy like that hitting 4th. The last 3 years, he's hit .421/.362/.350 OBP (the last two as a Dodger), 19 HR's in 516 at bats in 2004 and 13 in 283 at bats in 2005 (as a Dodger).

 

If you didn't have those other two guys, I'd stick him at the top. But I don't see a problem with a 25 HR guy hitting 4th with a .370 OBP when you would have Aramis and Murton hitting right behind him.

 

What kind of power would that translate to if he didn't play his last two seasons at Dodger Stadium?

 

His road numbers in 2005 were .309/.367/.494. If ESPN would fix their links, I could dig up his 2004 road splits. He also has some very nice day time stats.

[goonys evil twin]

I was just saying that if you had Furcal and Castillo already, I wouldn't see a problem with a guy like that hitting 4th. The last 3 years, he's hit .421/.362/.350 OBP (the last two as a Dodger), 19 HR's in 516 at bats in 2004 and 13 in 283 at bats in 2005 (as a Dodger).

 

If you didn't have those other two guys, I'd stick him at the top. But I don't see a problem with a 25 HR guy hitting 4th with a .370 OBP when you would have Aramis and Murton hitting right behind him.

 

What kind of power would that translate to if he didn't play his last two seasons at Dodger Stadium?

 

His road numbers in 2005 were .309/.367/.494. If ESPN would fix their links, I could dig up his 2004 road splits. He also has some very nice day time stats.

 

He's also had zero good full seasons.

[BigbadB]

I was just saying that if you had Furcal and Castillo already, I wouldn't see a problem with a guy like that hitting 4th. The last 3 years, he's hit .421/.362/.350 OBP (the last two as a Dodger), 19 HR's in 516 at bats in 2004 and 13 in 283 at bats in 2005 (as a Dodger).

 

If you didn't have those other two guys, I'd stick him at the top. But I don't see a problem with a 25 HR guy hitting 4th with a .370 OBP when you would have Aramis and Murton hitting right behind him.

 

What kind of power would that translate to if he didn't play his last two seasons at Dodger Stadium?

 

His road numbers in 2005 were .309/.367/.494. If ESPN would fix their links, I could dig up his 2004 road splits. He also has some very nice day time stats.

 

He's also had zero good full seasons.

 

I'm well aware of that. That's why he's not necessarily high on my priority list. I'll stand by my original plan of signing Giles, Lofton, and bringing back Walker and Nomar.

[Gunned]

From what a source told me, the Marlins braintrust is very split on what they should do with Delgado.

 

Hoops

 

I heard that from a source, too. It was called ESPN.

[USSoccer]

From what a source told me, the Marlins braintrust is very split on what they should do with Delgado.

 

Hoops

 

I heard that from a source, too. It was called ESPN.

 

You haven't been here very long, so here's some history: Hoops is a poster with connections to some people in baseball throughout the land, and actually broke one trade here at NSBB (Choi for Lee). His sources are usually very accurate.

 

I'm sure you didn't mean any disrespect, but I thought I could let you know some background so that in the future you understand what Hoops means by "sources".

[Brian]

You haven't been here very long, so here's some history: Hoops is a poster with connections to some people in baseball throughout the land, and actually broke one trade here at NSBB (Choi for Lee). His sources are usually very accurate.

 

I'm sure you didn't mean any disrespect, but I thought I could let you know some background so that in the future you understand what Hoops means by "sources".

 

no disrespect but, since when has once been very accurate?

[Sabermetrician]

You haven't been here very long, so here's some history: Hoops is a poster with connections to some people in baseball throughout the land, and actually broke one trade here at NSBB (Choi for Lee). His sources are usually very accurate.

 

I'm sure you didn't mean any disrespect, but I thought I could let you know some background so that in the future you understand what Hoops means by "sources".

 

no disrespect but, since when has once been very accurate?

 

Since no one else here has ever done it...ever.

[LuckyPup]

From what a source told me, the Marlins braintrust is very split on what they should do with Delgado.

 

Hoops

 

I heard that from a source, too. It was called ESPN.

:shock:

 

In looking at this deal maybe we can include Delgado

 

Dodgers get: Lowell(8)+Delgado(13)+Walker(2.5)Welly+Koronka

Cubs get: Castillo(6)+Bradley(4)+Lowe(9)+Mota(3)

Marlins get: Kent(6)+J Williams(.4)+Choi(.4)+Perez(5)+ Cpatt(2.5)+ Nolasco

 

Marlins lose about 16M off payroll but get back 2 starters in O. Perez and jWill-filling the lose of Burnett-not to mention they get a former MVP in Kent-

 

The Dodgers get a very potent infield and 2 young arms and only take on roughly 1M-

 

Cubs get a starting 2B, CF, starter, and potential closer/setup in. We only take on 16M but really solidify ourselves both defensively and rotation wise-Re-sign Nomar to play SS and Go after Giles+Howry

 

2B-Castillo

CF-Bradley

1B-Lee

RF-Giles

3B-Ramirez

SS-Nomar

C-Barrett

LF-Murton

 

Prior-Z-Maddux-Lowe-Wood

Dempster-Howry-Mota-Ohman-Wuertz-Williamson-Novoa

 

That team I could live with-