8/13 StL Cardinals (Carpenter) @ Cubs (Williams) 12:20 FOX

[Marco4]

Well, its worked twice with me starting the game thread this early. Let's try for the hat-trick.

 

Cards are in a slump of two.

Cubs are in a streak of two.

 

Cards' starter is 16-4 on the season thus far.

Cubs' starter is 3-5 on the season thus far.

 

Go Cubs!

 

NB - Living in the UK, my MLB.tv coverage of this game is not blacked out.

[rickrolled]

We still suck

[Derwood]

Great, FOX. I'll probably get Arizona vs. Atlanta instead of this game.

[Sarcastic]

We still suck

 

Is this reverse psychology negativity or real negativity? It gets hard to tell which is which when the Cubs win.

[otis89]

This is still a fluke. We'll lose again! Losing is just the best thing ever!

[badger1679666666]

Carpenter vs. Williams?

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Let's try to get the 3-1 series victory on sunday and throw the scrubs out tommorrow and rest everyone.

[CubfaninCA]

Is anyone warming up in the pen yet?? If Williams makes it to the 6th, I'll be shocked.

[rickrolled]

We still suck

 

Is this reverse psychology negativity or real negativity? It gets hard to tell which is which when the Cubs win.

 

Both.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Worthless stats of the day.....

 

CUBS are 8-10 on Saturdays

CUBS are 5-2 vs. St. Louis

CUBS are 30-33 in the day time.

CUBS are 29-29 at home.

CUBS are 32-22 when they've won the previous game.... 23-38 after a loss

CUBS are 8-8 when they've won their previous 2 games

CUBS are 18-16 in one run games, 8-7 in two run games.

CUBS are 34-15 when they score first,.... 22-45 when they don't

CUBS are 16-5 when they score in the first inning,... 40-55 when they don't

CUBS are 19-10 when Derrek Lee hits at least 1 HR.... 36-50 when he doesn't

CUBS are 23-16 when their pitchers' get at least 1 hit.... 33-44 when they don't

 

CUBS are 3-5 when Williams starts

Williams is 3 of 8 in quality starts

Williams's ERA pitching to Barrett is 4.94.... Williams has not pitched to Blanco.

CUBS score 4.46 R/G overall.... 4.00 R/G when Williams pitches

CUBS hit 1.22 HR/G overall.... 1.50 HR/G when Williams pitches

 

CUBS' offensive support of Williams.....

 

04/04 - 08/12      AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
CUBS w/Williams   268   32   65   11    2   12  116   32   19   46  0.243  0.293  0.433  0.726
CUBS overall     4013  517 1093  240   17  142 1793  495  305  655  0.272  0.327  0.447  0.774

 

Williams' last five starts.....

 

Williams          IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR   PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
08/08 vs. Cincy  5.3    7    7    7    3    2    2   84  5.06  3.38  3.38  1.88 11.81
08/03 vs. Phila  4.0    5    3    2    1    1    0   70  2.25  2.25  0.00  1.50  4.50
07/28 vs. Ariz   5.3    7    1    1    4    5    1  122  6.75  8.44  1.69  2.06  1.69
07/23 vs. St. L  6.0    7    4    3    3    3    0  105  4.50  4.50  0.00  1.67  4.50
07/18 vs. Cincy  6.7    6    4    4    1    3    1  104  1.35  4.05  1.35  1.05  5.40

5 game totals   27.3   32   19   17   12   14    4  485  3.95  4.61  1.32  1.61  5.60

 

Williams' splits.....

 

Williams          IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR   PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Home            17.7   19   12   12    8   10    4  294  4.08  5.09  2.04  1.53  6.11
Road            31.7   29   16   14   12   18    4  505  3.41  5.12  1.14  1.29  3.98

Day             20.3   19    9    8    9   13    2  338  3.98  5.75  0.89  1.38  3.54
Nite            29.0   29   19   18   11   15    6  461  3.41  4.66  1.86  1.38  5.59

season totals   49.3   48   28   26   20   28    8  799  3.65  5.11  1.46  1.38  4.74

 

CUBS' season series vs. St. Louis.....

 

Gm#    Date       Opponent         Score  Starter
15  Wed 04/20  @ St. Louis     N   3- 1  Zambrano      
16  Thu 04/21  @ St. Louis         0- 4  Dempster      
96  Fri 07/22  @ St. Louis     N   1- 2  Zambrano      
97  Sat 07/23  @ St. Louis         6- 5  Williams      
98  Sun 07/24  @ St. Louis     N   8- 4  Prior        
115  Thu 08/11    St. Louis        11- 4  Maddux        
116  Fri 08/12    St. Louis         4- 1  Zambrano      
117  Sat 08/13    St. Louis          -    Williams      
118  Sun 08/14    St. Louis     N    -    Prior        
137  Mon 09/05  @ St. Louis          -    Williams      
138  Tue 09/06  @ St. Louis     N    -    Prior        
139  Wed 09/07  @ St. Louis     N    -    Hill        
147  Thu 09/15    St. Louis     N    -    Williams      
148  Fri 09/16    St. Louis          -    Prior        
149  Sat 09/17    St. Louis          -    Hill        
150  Sun 09/18    St. Louis          -    Maddux        

 

CUBS' hitters vs. St. Louis.....

 

CUBS           AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Lee            24    9   11    5    0    3   25    8    8    2  0.458  0.594  1.042  1.635
Blanco          8    1    5    0    0    1    8    2    0    0  0.625  0.625  1.000  1.625
Ramirez        27    6   11    2    0    2   19    7    4    2  0.407  0.500  0.704  1.204
Barrett        20    4    8    3    0    1   14    2    4    3  0.400  0.500  0.700  1.200
Lawton          5    0    2    0    0    0    2    0    0    0  0.400  0.400  0.400  0.800
Hollandsworth  21    1    5    3    0    0    8    0    2    1  0.238  0.304  0.381  0.685
Perez          31    3    8    1    0    1   12    6    1    2  0.258  0.281  0.387  0.668
Hairston       21    1    6    0    1    0    8    0    0    4  0.286  0.286  0.381  0.667
Garciaparra     7    0    2    0    0    0    2    0    0    1  0.286  0.375  0.286  0.661
Patterson      16    2    4    1    0    0    5    1    1    2  0.250  0.294  0.313  0.607
Macias          7    1    2    0    0    0    2    1    0    1  0.286  0.286  0.286  0.571
Walker         17    3    3    1    0    0    4    0    1    3  0.176  0.222  0.235  0.458
Burnitz        24    1    3    0    0    1    6    2    2    3  0.125  0.192  0.250  0.442
Fontenot        1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000
Gerut           3    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000
Murton          6    1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    3  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000

vs. St. L.    256   33   74   17    2    9  122   31   23   33  0.289  0.352  0.477  0.829

overall      4013  518 1093  239   18  140 1788  496  305  652  0.272  0.327  0.446  0.773

 

CUBS' pitchers vs. St. Louis.....

 

CUBS         IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Novoa       2.7    1    0    0    1    0    0    34  3.38  0.00  0.00  0.75  0.00
Rusch       2.0    2    0    0    0    1    0    26  0.00  4.50  0.00  1.00  0.00
Wood        1.0    1    0    0    1    2    0    23  9.00 18.00  0.00  2.00  0.00
Ohman       1.0    0    0    0    0    1    0    15  0.00  9.00  0.00  0.00  0.00
Hawkins     0.3    0    0    0    0    0    0     2  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00
Zambrano   23.7   14    2    2    2   20    2   332  0.76  7.61  0.76  0.68  0.76
Dempster    9.0   10    3    3    5    5    0   150  5.00  5.00  0.00  1.67  3.00
Wuertz      2.7    0    1    1    1    2    0    37  3.38  6.75  0.00  0.38  3.38
Maddux      9.0   12    4    4    0    5    1   114  0.00  5.00  1.00  1.33  4.00
Prior       6.0    5    3    3    3    2    3   108  4.50  3.00  4.50  1.33  4.50
Williams    6.0    7    4    3    3    3    0   105  4.50  4.50  0.00  1.67  4.50
Fox         0.7    2    2    2    0    1    1    15  0.00 13.50 13.50  3.00 27.00
Mitre       0.3    2    1    1    0    0    0    10  0.00  0.00  0.00  6.00 27.00
Remlinger   0.0    1    1    1    0    0    1     4  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00

vs. St. L. 64.3   57   21   20   16   42    8   975  2.24  5.88  1.12  1.13  2.80

overall  1031.0  992  528  499  424  888  141 17045  3.70  7.75  1.23  1.37  4.36

 

Who's hot.....

 

Barrett        AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR  TB RBI  BB  SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
08/05 - 08/12  20   6  11   5   0   2  22   4   5   2  0.550  0.640  1.100  1.740

 

..... and who's not.....

 

Burnitz        AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR  TB RBI  BB  SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
07/22 - 08/12  76   5   9   2   0   1  14   5   5  14  0.118  0.171  0.184  0.355

 

Go CUBS !!!

[Chris]

The Cubs are gonna win, again. I mean it.

[JoshiQ]

Living in Kansas, I better get this game.

 

Of course, there was 2003 where FOX and FX were supposed to be playing Red Sox/Yankees and Cubs/Marlins on opposite stations, yet somehow I ended up with Sox/Yanks on both. Stupid cable.

[B]

The Cubs are gonna win, again. I mean it.

 

Yes they will, but the question is how many games it will take them to.

[Chris]

The Cubs are gonna win, again, tomorrow. I mean it.

 

Yes they will, but the question is how many games it will take them to.

 

Better?

[Omar]

*In before Vance's usual comment and Roast's ingenious philosophies*

[Roast]

*In before Vance's usual comment and Roast's ingenious philosophies*

 

Damn dude, you're good, i was just coming here to do that...

 

Today, we should focus on not letting the other team score as much as we do.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I like winning, especially against the Cardinals. No ##@$@$ing way we can do it three times in a row.

[Brian]

omgz here comes da cobs, cobs now tied for 3rd in the central with the mighty brew crew, and tied for 6th in the wild card.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Here's an interesting study in contrast from our 8 game losing streak to the wins recorded in the last 2 games.....

 

CUBS               AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
08/03 - 08/10     265   22   61   15    0    4   88   22   13   34  0.230  0.265  0.332  0.597
08/11 - 08/12      72   15   28    8    0    3   45   13    7    6  0.389  0.457  0.625  1.082

season totals    4013  518 1093  240   18  142 1795  496  305  652  0.272  0.327  0.447  0.774

 

CUBS                 IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
08/03 - 08/10      67.3   75   52   46   33   63   11  1207  4.41  8.42  1.47  1.60  6.15
08/11 - 08/12      18.0   22    5    5    2   13    1   264  1.00  6.50  0.50  1.33  2.50

season totals    1031.0  992  528  499  424  888  141 17045  3.70  7.75  1.23  1.37  4.36

 

Pretty intuitive so far. You hit well, you pitch well, you win. Here's some more interesting stuff....

 

          P/PA  W/AB  AB/HR   R/G
8 losses  3.63  .049  66.25  2.75
2 wins    3.39  .097  24.00  7.50
season    3.62  .076  28.26  4.47

 

Look at those pitches per AB. The CUBS season total of 3.62 ranks 15th in the National League. League wide, the teams range from a high of 3.84 to a low of 3.53 with a median of 3.74. CUBS opponents see 3.82 P/PA.

 

Discussions about patience at the plate are not new to this board, but it's curious to me how our P/PA drops by 6.5% while the walk rate almost doubles (.049 to .097). Is this some of that elusive "agressiveness in the zone" we keep hearing about ? Or is this an example of running into a couple wild pitchers that are throwing more than their share of meat balls ? Or is this just the common type of anomoly that results from an inadequate sample size ?

 

In any case, we're going to face Chris Carpenter today. If we go up there in total free swinging mode.... I'm not real conviced of a positive outcome.

 

Love to hear your thoughts.

[Derwood]

We've won 2 in a row, which means under the "Last 10" column in the standings, it now proudly reads: 2-8!

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Here's an interesting study in contrast from our 8 game losing streak to the wins recorded in the last 2 games.....

 

CUBS               AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
08/03 - 08/10     265   22   61   15    0    4   88   22   13   34  0.230  0.265  0.332  0.597
08/11 - 08/12      72   15   28    8    0    3   45   13    7    6  0.389  0.457  0.625  1.082

season totals    4013  518 1093  240   18  142 1795  496  305  652  0.272  0.327  0.447  0.774

 

CUBS                 IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
08/03 - 08/10      67.3   75   52   46   33   63   11  1207  4.41  8.42  1.47  1.60  6.15
08/11 - 08/12      18.0   22    5    5    2   13    1   264  1.00  6.50  0.50  1.33  2.50

season totals    1031.0  992  528  499  424  888  141 17045  3.70  7.75  1.23  1.37  4.36

 

Pretty intuitive so far. You hit well, you pitch well, you win. Here's some more interesting stuff....

 

          P/PA  W/AB  AB/HR   R/G
8 losses  3.63  .049  66.25  2.75
2 wins    3.39  .097  24.00  7.50
season    3.62  .076  28.26  4.47

 

Look at those pitches per AB. The CUBS season total of 3.62 ranks 15th in the National League. League wide, the teams range from a high of 3.84 to a low of 3.53 with a median of 3.74. CUBS opponents see 3.82 P/PA.

 

Discussions about patience at the plate are not new to this board, but it's curious to me how our P/PA drops by 6.5% while the walk rate almost doubles (.049 to .097). Is this some of that elusive "agressiveness in the zone" we keep hearing about ? Or is this an example of running into a couple wild pitchers that are throwing more than their share of meat balls ? Or is this just the common type of anomoly that results from an inadequate sample size ?

 

In any case, we're going to face Chris Carpenter today. If we go up there in total free swinging mode.... I'm not real conviced of a positive outcome.

 

Love to hear your thoughts.

 

I'd probably call it an anomaly because of sample size, like you say.

[Flames24Rulz]

rain could come into play again today.

[andrew9991]

I'm pretty sure this is what I heard on the Score:

 

Lawton

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Garciaparra

Barrett

Patterson

Williams

Edited August 13, 2005 by andrew9991

[moorecg]

I'm pretty sure this is what I head on the Score:

 

Lawton

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Garciaparra

Barrett

Patterson

Williams

 

That just might be the best lineup we've put out this year.

[Brian34Cook]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/mlb/teams/1/80x60/stl.gif

1. SS David Eckstein

2. LF John Rodriguez

3. 1B Albert Pujols

4. CF Jim Edmonds

5. 3B Abraham Núñez

6. RF John Mabry

7. 2B Mark Grudzielanek

8. C Mike Mahoney

9. SP Chris Carpenter

 

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/mlb/teams/1/80x60/chn.gif

1. LF Matt Lawton

2. 2B Todd Walker

3. 1B Derrek Lee

4. 3B Aramis Ramirez

5. RF Jeromy Burnitz

6. SS Nomar Garciaparra

7. C Michael Barrett

8. CF Corey Patterson

9. SP Jerome Williams

[Bull]

I'm pretty sure this is what I head on the Score:

 

Lawton

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Garciaparra

Barrett

Patterson

Williams

 

That just might be the best lineup we've put out this year.

 

That's because dusty's been resting the good players all year. Now that the games are important, he puts out the best lineup. :roll: