College Football - Week 10 (Nov. 7)

[Andy]

Top 25 games

(1) Miami at (11) Notre Dame (7:30 pm, NBC)

(2) Georgia at (10) Ole Miss (7:30 pm, ABC) 

(9) BYU at (3) Utah (12 pm, ABC)

(5) Alabama at (14) LSU (3:30 pm, ABC) 

(6) Kentucky at (13) Tennessee (6:15 pm, ESPN)

(7) Texas at (18) Missouri (12 pm, ESPN)

(8) UCLA at Minnesota (12 pm, FOX)   

(23) Oregon at (12) Ohio State (3:30 pm, CBS) 

West Virginia at (15) Texas Tech (9:30 pm, ESPN)

Merrimack at (16) Wake Forest (3:30 pm, ACC Network)

Cincinnati at (17) Houston (3:30 pm, FOX) 

(19) Iowa at Northwestern (7:30 pm, FOX)  

Texas A&M at (21) South Carolina (3 pm, ESPN) 

TCU at (22) Arizona (10:15 pm Friday, ESPN)

Oklahoma at (24) Florida (7:45 pm, SEC Network) 

(25) Boise State at Colorado State (6 pm, USA) 

 

Other nationally available games
Tuesday

Ohio at Akron (7 pm, ESPN2)

Buffalo at Miami (OH) (8 pm, ESPN)

 

Wednesday

Ball State at UMass (7 pm, ESPNU)

Toledo at Sacramento State (7 pm, CBSSN)

Central Michigan vs Eastern Michigan - in Detroit (7:30 pm, ESPN2)

 

Thursday

UTSA at Florida Atlantic (8 pm, ESPN)

James Madison at Southern Miss (8 pm, ESPN2)

 

Friday

Virginia Tech at SMU (7 pm, ESPN) 

South Florida at East Carolina (7:30 pm, ESPN2)

Nebraska at Illinois (8 pm, FOX)

New Mexico at Nevada (9 pm, CBSSN) 

 

Saturday TV

Clemson at Syracuse (12 pm, ESPN2)

Iowa State at Baylor (12 pm, FS1) 

Tulsa at Tulane (12 pm, ESPNU)

Florida State at Boston College (12 pm, ACC Network)

North Carolina at UConn (12 pm, CBSSN)

Duke at NC State (12:30 pm, CW)

Maryland at Purdue (12:30 pm, BTN)

Arkansas at Auburn (12:45 pm, SEC Network)

Oklahoma State at Kansas State (1 pm, TNT) 

Penn State at Washington (3:30 pm, FS1)  

Temple at Navy (3:30 pm, CBSSN)

UCF at Kansas (3:45 pm, ESPN2) 

Rice at North Texas (4 pm, ESPNU)

Rutgers at Wisconsin (4:15 pm, BTN)  

Vanderbilt at Mississippi State (4:15 pm, SEC Network)

Sam Houston at Jacksonville State (7 pm, CBSSN)

Air Force at Army (7:30 pm, CBS)

Colorado at Arizona State (7:30 pm, ESPN2)

Louisville at Georgia Tech (7:30 pm, ACC Network)

Liberty at New Mexico State (8 pm, ESPNU)

Hawaii at UTEP (9:30 pm, FS1)

Fresno State at Utah State (9:30 pm, USA)

Texas State at Oregon State (10:30 pm, CW)

Wyoming at UNLV (10:30 pm, CBSSN)

 

Saturday Streaming (all ESPN+ unless noted)

Old Dominion at Coastal Carolina (1 pm)

Georgia State at Appalachian State (2:30 pm)

UL Monroe at Arkansas State (3 pm)

Delaware at Kennesaw State (3 pm)

Charlotte at UAB (3:30 pm)

Marshall at Georgia Southern (3:30 pm)

Western Kentucky at Middle Tennessee (3:30 pm)

Louisiana Tech at Troy (4 pm)

Missouri State at FIU (4 pm)

South Alabama at UL Lafayette (5 pm)

Michigan State at Michigan (7:30 pm, Peacock)  

Edited Wednesday at 12:54 AM by Andy

[Andy]

As per usual I will replace these rankings with the committee rankings once they are revealed Tuesday. I expect changes.

That said, New Mexico is AP ranked for the first time ever, so that's fun.

[PackLandVA]

OK Notre Dame.....time to sh!t or get off the pot.  Tired of you coming up small in big games. 

Please win Saturday.

[cwood218]

1 hour ago, PackLandVA said:

OK Notre Dame.....time to sh!t or get off the pot.

Probably the same scenario as last year for ND if they lose.

SEC has 10 ranked teams: 2 with 3 losses, 6 with 2 losses and 2 with 1 loss. Have to think 3 or 4 of them end up with 3 losses and would not be shocked if 1-2 were taken over a 10-2 team. Indiana is probably in the same situation if they lose to USC.

[Andy]

Last year, the committee ignited a firestorm of whining and complaining that didn't stop for 6 weeks by placing Notre Dame 8 spots ahead of a Miami team that beat them in their initial rankings.

This year, the committee decided that was so much fun they are doing it again. Alabama is 8 spots ahead of a team they lost to head to head that has the same number of losses (Tennessee).

God I'm so glad I never watch this trash

Edited Wednesday at 01:17 AM by Andy

[cwood218]

21 minutes ago, Andy said:

Last year, the committee ignited a firestorm of whining and complaining that didn't stop for 6 weeks by placing Notre Dame 8 spots ahead of a Miami team that beat them in their initial rankings.

This year, the committee decided that was so much fun they are doing it TWICE. Indiana and Alabama are both 8 spots ahead of a team they lost to head to head that has the same number of losses.

God I'm so glad I never watch this trash

While I agree that IU's ranking is probably a few spots high, OSU has 2 L's while IU has 1. Also, it is reasonable to factor in the injury to OSU's QB. 

[Derwood]

Two Big Ten teams, lol

Edited Wednesday at 01:32 AM by Derwood

[Andy]

3 hours ago, cwood218 said:

While I agree that IU's ranking is probably a few spots high, OSU has 2 L's while IU has 1. Also, it is reasonable to factor in the injury to OSU's QB. 

I did screw up the losses thing, edited the post

[soccer10k]

4 hours ago, Andy said:

Last year, the committee ignited a firestorm of whining and complaining that didn't stop for 6 weeks by placing Notre Dame 8 spots ahead of a Miami team that beat them in their initial rankings.

This year, the committee decided that was so much fun they are doing it again. Alabama is 8 spots ahead of a team they lost to head to head that has the same number of losses (Tennessee).

God I'm so glad I never watch this trash

Yeah that's a weird situation. Seems like they generally tried to follow H2H. BYU over ND, Bama over Kentucky, Ole Miss behind Texas but ahead of LSU.

The problem is if you move Tennessee up ahead of Bama, they're then ahead of Texas who beat them. If you rank them Texas-Tennessee-Bama, well, then we're parsing good wins (Texas over OSU, Tenn, Ole Miss, Bama over Kent, Tenn over Bama) vs bad losses (Texas to OU, Tenn to South Carolina, Bama none). Without putting too much thought into it, I guess I'd reward Texas for the OSU game, and rank those four Tex-Tenn-Bama-Kent and figuring it will sort itself out with the ranked games each one has left.

[soccer10k]

3 hours ago, Derwood said:

Two Big Ten teams, lol

I'm not sure I agree with it but I get it. For the two-loss teams:

OSU gets dinged because they didn't look good without Sayin last week and he's not coming back. If they win out, they'll be in because other teams above them will lose. And if Sayin is that much of a loss, they'll lose another game or two and be out anyway.

USC gets dinged because of Sayin being out. They're low but they still play at Indiana and at UCLA so they're in if they win their last three games.

Iowa lost by 17 to the only ranked team they've played.

Northwestern lost to both ranked teams they've played (Indiana and Oregon) but they still play Iowa and Ohio St.

[PackLandVA]

I don't follow Miami that much, but I do know they're ranked #1.  And I also know that Malachi Toney is one of the top WRs in all of college. So to say that he's going to miss the Notre Dame game and possibly the rest of the college season seems like a pretty big deal.

Miami WR Malachi Toney to Have Ankle Surgery

 

"Miami will be without Malachi Toney against Notre Dame, and perhaps the rest of the regular season.

Toney suffered an ankle injury in practice on Wednesday and will now miss out on the No. 1 Hurricanes' trip to South Bend. Toney is set to undergo surgery due to the injury, according to Yahoo Sports' Ross Dellenger."

[cwood218]

With the loss tonight to Illinois, Nebraska drops to 5-4. With games against Rutgers, Ohio St. and Iowa left 6-6 looks reasonable. Does Rhule get fired?

[gflore34]

35 minutes ago, cwood218 said:

With the loss tonight to Illinois, Nebraska drops to 5-4. With games against Rutgers, Ohio St. and Iowa left 6-6 looks reasonable. Does Rhule get fired?

The Nebraska QB isn't good, definitely a step down from Raiola.  Somewhat like Michigan, very good defense, not so good offense, although the Huskers aren't quite as bad on offense as the Wolverines.

Edited Saturday at 05:16 AM by gflore34

[Tryptamine]

Does Illinois need 1 or 2 more wins to get a legit bowl and not some nonsense no one has ever heard of bowl?

[Jason Ross]

I apologize to the world early: *if* Kentucky wins, I'm going to be real insufferable for a while. 

[bukie]

4 hours ago, Jason Ross said:

I apologize to the world early: *if* Kentucky wins, I'm going to be real insufferable for a while. 

I consider Kentucky football probably the least annoying SEC football program (aside from maybe Vandy) at this point, so I don't have a problem seeing them doing well and making the playoff.

Basketball though? Complete inverse.

[Rex Buckingham]

16 minutes ago, bukie said:

I consider Kentucky football probably the least annoying SEC football program (aside from maybe Vandy) at this point, so I don't have a problem seeing them doing well and making the playoff.

Basketball though? Complete inverse.

Vandy football is worse simply because of Pavia

[Andy]

4 hours ago, Jason Ross said:

I apologize to the world early: *if* Kentucky wins, I'm going to be real insufferable for a while. 

I hope Kentucky wins; if ND faceplants today (I'm in fatalistic mode with them right now) I'll want to be able to pivot straight to rooting for Kenny Minchey.

[Derwood]

Ohio State might lose 5 games this year.

PSU almost blew a 28-3 lead.

Big Ten continues to be MID

[cwood218]

ND on the verge of getting arrested for what they are doing to Miami.

[Andy]

Thank God they held on. I spent about 20-25 of the 30 second-half game minutes sure they would lose.

I saw firsthand how good Malachi Toney is last year, but the ratio of talking about him to talking about the fact that ND was essentially playing a 3rd team defense half the game because of all their injuries was a bit out of whack.

But whatever. Win 3 more games (SMU is schizo but dangerous if not taken seriously) and I'll get to watch postseason football

[CubColtPacer]

It's so strange to think that the Miami/ND thing might happen again this year but in reverse.  They were 10 spots apart last week, so there's no guarantee they are considered "in the same group".  Miami could easily still be ahead on Tuesday.  But then as the season goes along if they both win out and teams drop out in between them, by precedent that would make ND jump them.

And then the other story is that the last 2-3 spots in the playoff feel incredibly gettable by a wide range of teams.

[Derwood]

Can’t believe how much “controversy” there is about the no-TD call. He got a foot in, but was stripped of the ball immediately 

[Rex Buckingham]

2 minutes ago, Derwood said:

Can’t believe how much “controversy” there is about the no-TD call. He got a foot in, but was stripped of the ball immediately 

Yeah, clearly a no-catch by rule. But it is a bit silly that if you are coming from outside the end zone and reach just the very tip of the ball and touch the white paint, it is a td no matter what happens after that, but on a catch there is a whole process to be completed if you are in the end zone.

I am pretty sure if he had caught the ball at the goal line with his feet just outside the end zone and reached the ball across and had it stripped out the same way, it would have been a TD, which is a little weird as far as rules go

[javy knows my name]

16 minutes ago, Rex Buckingham said:

Yeah, clearly a no-catch by rule. But it is a bit silly that if you are coming from outside the end zone and reach just the very tip of the ball and touch the white paint, it is a td no matter what happens after that, but on a catch there is a whole process to be completed if you are in the end zone.

I am pretty sure if he had caught the ball at the goal line with his feet just outside the end zone and reached the ball across and had it stripped out the same way, it would have been a TD, which is a little weird as far as rules go

Why would that make it different? He would still not have had possession when it crossed the goal line