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I'm watching Braves vs Dodgers.  Sale was crazy good.  8 inning, 4 hits, no run.

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1 hour ago, UMFan83 said:

Good point Mister Ricketts

😅 just being realistic about the way the Cubs operate. 

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2 hours ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

Kind of shocked they haven't yanked Mis, velo drop seems like a huge red flag.

Down 2mph from this year's average.  We'll see how he does next start.

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3 hours ago, Rcal10 said:

But then the Cubs would be in the hook for around $2.5M. That is a lot of money to spend just so a guy doesn’t play against you. 

He hasn't been good this year, I don't think it's a big worry for the Cubs.

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9 minutes ago, Stratos said:

He hasn't been good this year, I don't think it's a big worry for the Cubs.

Sure enough, his stats against the Cubs this year:

.364 .417 .909 1.326
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10 hours ago, Stratos said:

He hasn't been good this year, I don't think it's a big worry for the Cubs.

He is good against the Cubs. Always has been. Hope your words don’t come back to bite you. I do wish he wasn’t on the Reds. 

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11 hours ago, Stratos said:

He hasn't been good this year, I don't think it's a big worry for the Cubs.

Famous last words before facing Leo Rivas

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14 hours ago, BKHoo said:

Can someone tell me how Andrew Vaughan turned into Babe Ruth when he went to the Brewers?! 

This is what drives me nuts about the Brewers' pixie dust, I know clowns like Vaughn, etc. are propped up by the pitching.  Nevertheless, the Brewers' having success with players possessing large enough sample sizes to suggest they're below average to bad - Perkins, Hamilton, Bauers, Mitchell, Vaughn, Ortiz, yadda, yadda - is very frustrating.  I could see one or, maybe, a couple them of getting it together and finding success but, all of them?  WTF?!  At least when the Cardinals where at their pixie dust height they actually had good players, HOF'ers in fact, Pujols, Rolen, etc.  I could almost live with their success or, at least, reasonably justify it.

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10 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

This is what drives me nuts about the Brewers' pixie dust, I know clowns like Vaughn, etc. are propped up by the pitching.  Nevertheless, the Brewers' having success with players possessing large enough sample sizes to suggest they're below average to bad - Perkins, Hamilton, Bauers, Mitchell, Vaughn, Ortiz, yadda, yadda - is very frustrating.  I could see one or, maybe, a couple them of getting it together and finding success but, all of them?  WTF?!  At least when the Cardinals where at their pixie dust height they actually had good players, HOF'ers in fact, Pujols, Rolen, etc.  I could almost live with their success or, at least, reasonably justify it.

And not just good, best record in baseball good? This doesn't add up to me and it drives me crazy.

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5 minutes ago, ILMindState said:

And not just good, best record in baseball good? This doesn't add up to me and it drives me crazy.

It's the pitching, unfortunately, they've a very good staff and their collection of flotsam and jetsam provides just enough offense to make it stick.  Even with the best record they're primed for another October flop.  Playoff teams will be able to execute against the Brewers pitching and their death by a thousand cuts offense won't be able to string enough cuts together vs. better pitching.

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35 minutes ago, ILMindState said:

And not just good, best record in baseball good? This doesn't add up to me and it drives me crazy.

The big payroll/big market advantage doesn’t exist in a division with St. Louis and the piss ant Brewers. Year after year.  They’re a lifelong headache caused by a pituitary tumor that can’t be removed because it’s too close to a major artery.

 I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that they’ve managed to win 90+ games in 8/9 years not counting 2020 with constant roster turnover and mediocre talent. They can’t have a down year? 

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34 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

It's the pitching, unfortunately, they've a very good staff and their collection of flotsam and jetsam provides just enough offense to make it stick.  Even with the best record they're primed for another October flop.  Playoff teams will be able to execute against the Brewers pitching and their death by a thousand cuts offense won't be able to string enough cuts together vs. better pitching.

Nothing is permanent. One day the Brewers will have losing season or two and the Cubs will finish ahead of Milwaukee. They’ll finish behind the market Cardinals instead who’ll turn back the clock to the early-mid 2000’s. 

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7 minutes ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

Nothing is permanent. One day the Brewers will have losing season or two and the Cubs will finish ahead of Milwaukee. They’ll finish behind the market Cardinals instead who’ll turn back the clock to the early-mid 2000’s. 

Pitching, pitching, pitching, they've had extraordinary success with turning around failed top pitching prospects - Priester, Harrison and others - struck gold every time.  I don't know if that's sustainable, you'd think, eventually, one these acquisitions will turn out to be fool's gold.  It's horsefeathers baseball after all.

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1 minute ago, gflore34 said:

Pitching, pitching, pitching, they've had extraordinary success with turning around failed top pitching prospects - Priester, Harrison and others - struck gold every time.  I don't know if that's sustainable, you'd think, eventually, one these acquisitions will turn out to be fool's gold.

They've also been very fortunate with injury luck on their stud pitchers. All of the pitchers we develop end up getting hurt.

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1 minute ago, gflore34 said:

Pitching, pitching, pitching, they've had extraordinary success with turning around failed top pitching prospects - Priester, Harrison and others - struck gold every time.  I don't know if that's sustainable, you'd think, eventually, one these acquisitions will turn out to be fool's gold.  It's horsefeathers baseball after all.

Obviously. A lot of organizations are great at developing pitching. Only Milwaukee wins 90+ games every single year with their shoestring payroll. One of these decades you’d think they’d have a down year.

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7 minutes ago, ILMindState said:

They've also been very fortunate with injury luck on their stud pitchers. All of the pitchers we develop end up getting hurt.

Yeah, I don't know if any of the Brewers pitchers had the injury histories of Wiggins or Horton.  It's a high risk, high reward situation for the Cubs in drafting guys like Wiggins and Horton.  Unfortunately, the risk is winning with guys who, have thus far, shown the best ability they have is to be injured.

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